secretary general of the international federation of red cross and red crescent societies he joins me now jogen thank you for coming on to the program your organization is campaigning for equitable vaccine distribution this story in south africa south africa suggests that distribution may not be so straightforward what kind of challenge does that pose for your efforts. you are absolutely right the devil access under distribution processing is access i think we need to have systems in place that there is of equal sharing of the vaccine so that is one aspect the 2nd aspect is of course in the distribution and now as we have seen that a number of complexities around on the distribution one you just described out and i'm south africa in the by this is mutating so some of the virus which we part was effecting minute be effective anymore so that is one aspect of after the situation challenge the 2nd is of course you know the number of countries competing to be out of the vaccines in a way it is asserted is a vaccine in other part of the world so in certain countries especially the when the country is