john: all right.bers are accurate, but they both know -- and obama's own labor department did a study on this -- that the reason for the difference is we men are crazier than women. we're more likely to work jobs that might kill us travel for the job, work longer hours. it's not the same job. and when it is, we're paid about the same. >> right. and women take time off the work force to raise children, and that affects earning power because they don't get to the same corporate levels, etc. this is something both parties put forward -- john: but they know the truth but they say it anyway. >> it's technically true. as happens so often in politics, you take one factoid and twist it and contort it into something totally different. john: thank you, david. >> thank you. john: there are a few poll-tested phrases both parties use. here's one. >> we have the first president in the white house who doesn't believe in american exceptionalism. >> american exceptionalism. >> i'm a firm believer in american exception

john: marcus, privilege. john brown. lemonis: john, nice to meet you. john: nice to meet you, sir. becky: thank you for coming. lemonis: the smell when you walk in here is awesome. john: it is. that's what everybody says. lemonis: and so, is this whole warehouse -- is all the manufacturing? john: it is. everything is in this 3,500 square feet. lemonis: well, why don't we take a look around? john: please. please. this is our storefront. we have an extremely loyal customer base. people are coming in buying 7, 8, 9, 12 bags of coffee. there's a lot of locals that live maybe 20 miles from here. they don't want to drive the downtown, so we do ship. becky: we're in whole foods and earth fare and fresh market, as well, so they can just pick it up at the grocery store. -lemonis: oh, you are? -john: yes. lemonis: that's nice. who got that account? -becky: the previous owner. -john: previous owner. lemonis: and what will the entire business do? john: we did $840,000 last year. lemonis: how much profit? john: i want to say, last year, it was $40,000 at the most. okay. this is our production a

john: what?t has been slow but obama was telling the truth finally we did have a strong job growth that i am sick of the politicians talking about creating jobs. if the government gets out of the way than the private sector creates real jobs the big government president wants said this. >> if you have the business unit did not feel that somebody else made that happen. >> he will meet -- meant the government built the roads but he was wrong you did bill that i assume the president's successor learned from his mistakes. >> don't let anybody tell you it is corporations or businesses that create jobs. that all the theory. john: later she said she met tax breaks but her statement reflects the anti-business attitude government is good but business is creepy and bad and i feel one williams feels that way because he is left-wing and hadley does not like that but they did not do with a lot of the. >> ofinters and job creators and business people can acknowledge that but that statement from the president s

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john: what?t has been slow but obama was telling the truth finally we did have a strong job growth that i am sick of the politicians talking about creating jobs. if the government gets out of the way than the private sector creates real jobs the big government president wants said this. >> if you have the business unit did not feel that somebody else made that happen. >> he will meet -- meant the government built the roads but he was wrong you did bill that i assume the president's successor learned from his mistakes. >> don't let anybody tell you it is corporations or businesses that create jobs. that all the theory. john: later she said she met tax breaks but her statement reflects the anti-business attitude government is good but business is creepy and bad and i feel one williams feels that way because he is left-wing and hadley does not like that but they did not do with a lot of the. >> of course, large printers and job creators and business people can acknowledge that but that statement fro

john: e-mail. emily: facebook or twitter? john: neither. emily: why not? john: i tried it.hooked on it. i'm spending an entire living moment of my life on it. i can't do it. i need to stop. [laughter] emily: smart watch or no? john: no. i'm a traditionalist. emily: but you want your chips and everything. john: yeah, i am still a traditionalist. by the way, i want a chip in everything. i did not say i want to be tracked like that. i did not say that. i think there is a certain amount -- there is a certain place for that, and then i want to have my own private moment in my own private life. emily: if you were not doing what you do now, what would you do? what would you want to do? john: it would never happen again, because i am too old for it. i would love to go to law school. actually, i wanted to be a lawyer at a certain point in time, but my father thought it was not a good profession. emily: when is the last time you were nervous? john: i am very fortunate. i think if anything would happen to my family, i would be nervous. outside of that, there is nothing to be nervous a

with john.nd she didn't see him again until he was 17 or 18. so he became a man and -- susan swain: under the tutelage of his father. edith gelles: under the tutelage of his father. but she was very influential in those first 11 years. i balk at this tendency blame the mother every time something goes wrong with the children. circumstances happen. there are genes. i mean, there is possibly a genetic predisposition to alcoholism in that family. abigail's brother died of it and there apparently were other members of the family. and it's certainly was in the culture and the kind of sensitivity to alcohol. edith gelles: so a revolution happened when her children grew up. they grew up in wartime. that can be very, very damaging to children's psyches. susan swain: the year 1800 was a very, very difficult year for the adamses. a campaign for re-election hard fought against the big political rival in thomas jefferson they lost that. that was also a year that they moved to the white house and they also l

john: john: -- larry: ihe said i was his hero. john: you mentioned the bob livingston thing.ou did this in the past with him and uf you have tried to do it by making ads to have somebody come forward to talk about their sexual scandals. you have tried to inhire investigators. i'm curious in 2016 if you plan to be involved in the campaign in that way -- looking into the lives of republicans. john:larry: no. 30 years ago, you could take a politician down with just a sexual affair. you cannot do that anymore. a politician from louisiana -- he got reelected to the senate and ran for governor of new orleans. there must be some kind of complicity and corruption in order to really be able to -- john: presumably, you think that is not the worst thing in the world, right? that had been so much controversy around sexual indiscretion. larry: there is hypocrisy around my company. i don't think there should be hypocrisy in politics. that is the reason why -- you got two mistresses while married. you'd think he's ward cleaver. he's not. john: the famous father on "leave it to beaver." you

john: i'm john heilemann. with all due respect to "the new york times," this is a christie's ally and this is a kirstie alley. gov. christie: with all due respect. john: happy national chocolate park day. indictments, indictments and more at stake. first, chris christie. his old pal pled guilty to two conspiracy counts of bridge gate while his lawyer said evidence exists implicating the governor in the scandal. paul fishman did not lay a finger on the big man himself. in a press conference this afternoon, he said this -- paul fishman: based on the evidence available to us today we will not bring further charges. john: after today, with respect to christie's 2016 ambitions, is he on shaky ground or firmer ground? mark: shaky ground. if you take today's plea deal and the fact the prosecutor showed these facts, christie will not be indicted, he is on firmer ground. it is hard for me to believe these three people were the only people involved. mark: you saw his people trumpeting the fact. we are exactly where we w

john: i'm john heilemann. mark: and i'm mark halperin. "with all due respect" to fifa's sepp blatter, you can count on our support for the right price. ♪ mark: on the show tonight, the music man -- bernie sanders faces the music and the ed gillespie musical. first, the latest news from the indicted former house speaker, dennis hastert of illinois. news organizations reporting he allegedly paid a younger male hush money to conceal sexual misconduct that occurred during his time as a high school wrestler coach and teacher in illinois. not much new being reported today. lots of unanswered questions. where is this story going next? john: i think it is rapidly going towards the place where we know everything that actually occurred. we know something about the timing from the indictment. it is important to not that what he is accused of took place after he left office. he was not engaging in the hush money activities during speaker of the house. the activity goes back years before that and we will find out what we wanted to know and didn't want

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john:-- can do it.ohn: if there is going to be a stable solution there, it cannot be posed by americans. we have tried it. anything on a domestic level. this is a painful period, but necessary. mark: aliriright, it's been a banner day for twitter. charles johnson, who is gotten quite from it -- famous on twitter, has been barred again from the microblogging service because he asked to "take out" and activist who has been involved in the police shootings in baltimore and ferguson. mr. johnson has been suspended from tweeting in the past. but john, i ask you, should twitter bar from its platform is on the content of their? -- of their tweets? john: in limiting circumstances i believe they can and should. where i think a line needs to be drawn is at htrethreats. you can argue whether this is a threat were not, but the person this is thedirected to finds this a threat. people say a lot of ugly things on twitter, but they cannot incite people to violence. mark: it is a private service, you do not have a righ

john: we both think john kasich and be a big player in this case. rick snyder deciding not to run, opens up the field a lot in terms of midwestern money. i would think this of the more tempting for john kasich with rick snyder out. mark: no question. specifically, money from michigan. as we said, another name missing from the freedom summit is jeb bush, the former florida governor will give a commencement speech at liberty university. the school famously founded by jerry falwell, and also well takers announced he was running for president. jeb bush has rehearsed this speech, it is a big one. and exert released says how big a deal they think it is. he is going to say, whenever the need, the affliction, or the injustice, there is no more powerful or liberating influence on this earth than the christian conscious in action. why is this so important to his candidacy? john: bill, what do you think about this? bill doesn't have a view. i will take his proxy and say we have seen polling and see that he has problems with conservatives. we have seen it in re

john: and i am john heilemann. with all due respect, t.g.i.f. john: happy national pizza party day, sports fans. in our lineup tonight, a dinner and a show. first the dinner. tomorrow in des moines, 11 republican presidential candidates are -- or would-be candidates are attending the iowa lincoln day dinner. catch it all live and i promise it's going to be hilarious. mark, who you got? mark: my main focus is on walker, bush, and rick perry. right now if you look at the early states, the only state not counting lindsey graham in south carolina, the favorite son, the only state with somebody right now who is a clear favorite and could change the contours of the fight by winning is walker in iowa. john: since you have taken all the people in the hard disagreement zone, those people are interesting the jeb bush had a horrible week. all eyes are going to be on him so that's important. scott walker is all the things you just said, and also someone who has been off the radar screen. obviously someone really interesting to look at. i continue to be fasc

john wilkes booth -- only john wilkes booth was successful. right here was the location of the kirkwood house. that is where johnson was staying. during the afternoon of the 14th, john wilkes booth did stop at the kirkwood house and asked the clerk to stick a card in johnson's box where he wrote "don't wish to disturb you. are you at home? j.w. booth." some historians think he did that to frame johnson in case george azterodt did not carry out his plan to assassinate johnson, which in fact he did not. here is the theatre and the house across the street where president lincoln died, the petersen boardinghouse. george never carries it out. he was staying in the same house where johnson was to go to his room that same night and shoot him. instead, he goes to germantown and the weapons are found in his room by investigators within 24 hours after president lincoln's assassination. this was the rogers house, this is where secretary of state seward was recovering from a carriage accident. this is where lewis powell did make successful entry into the

john: me, too.now is we heard, like four five six shots and nobody was taking it serious. >> this is a fox news alert from america's news headquarters. i'm kelly wright. police killing two suspected gunmen sunday who opened for at a security officer. it happened in the dallas suburb of garland. that security guard was shot in the leg but is back home tonight. the bomb squad is still on the scene. they're using a robotic device to inspect the two men who were shot as well as their vehicle. at one point overnight, our fox news reporter

where i think a line has to be john is at threat. you could argue about if this is a threat or not, but i know the person at home this was directed at felt this was a threat, and twitter let's people say a lot of things. what they cannot let people do is incite people to commit violence against other people on the service. mark: it is a private service. you do not have the right to be on twitter. but what if someone who did not have his reputation tweeted the same thing? john: they probably would not have noticed if it were someone who do not have a following to that extent. i just do not think that for the reasons you just said, we do not let people come on our air and make bets, and we're not practicing censorship -- mark: if you go on your ipad right now and we "if you see karl rove and punch them in the face," is that inciting violence? john: i think that will be fine. i think that would be ok. it would depend on if there was a serious intent to it or not mark:. how can you tell from the language? john: like pornography. there is

john: right.et that same year the president also said this. >> my administration is increasing federal student aid some more students can afford college. [applause] john: what? doesn't he see the disconnect? i think he does, but he still panders for votes by giving your money away. it's not his money. and then his handouts increase tuition costs so lots of students leave college deep in debt. another reason another reason to wonder, today is college worth it? that is the title of the book. i would think it is worth it for some people who really want to learn. >> exactly. for some people it can be worth it. that's what we say in the book. john: and lots of people don't have that. most i would say. >> many. i would say many. the graduation rates are pretty low to lie about 50% graduate within six years. if you consider we have a lot of taxpayers supporting people who never finish's i think americans have a right to be disappointed. john: the president wants to make committee college free two years.

john: that is a fight he wants.ark: athe year 2000, al gore was in iowa and mike huckabee was back in arkansas. it was fitting and proper that two figures that played a big role in the last century had rare print interviews. al gore began a three-day trip in iowa. he said that iowans should pressure presidential candidates to put climate change high up on the platforms. chelsea clinton told the washington post that their family is no stranger to scrutiny. what do you make of these interviews? john: chelsea clinton, not surprising at all. she said some things that are expected. what is al gore doing in iowa if not stirring up trouble? mark: he does this all over the country. he does workshops on the environment. he said in the interview that he wants the environment to be part of the candidates' agenda. john: it is on the brink of a presidential campaign. he feel cares about climate change. h hee has a mischievous side . mark: the are a lot of people that said if hillary clinton does not support it, she could lose. u

john: agreed.k: and if his position is that the war was worth fighting he will be on the wrong side of. public opinion. . it is the position of some people in his party. john: not what you need if you are hoping to win a sound portion of the electorate. mark: this may be our lead tomorrow. john: john bolton is not running for president. no passing go, no collecting $200. this means what? mark: i thought he was going to run. i spent time with him last weekend, and it seemed like he was getting ready to run. this opens an opportunity for people like lindsey graham or marco rubio who have been emphasizing social security, it opens the lane for them to be a dominant voice on national security. john: i was hoping there would be able to in -- a bolton in this race. he would have been the furthest right foreign policy candidate. he would have been arguing we need another neocon in the white house. it certainly leaves open the far right on that argument. as you say, someone like lindsey graham could occupy

john: and i'm john heilemann.nd with all due respect hillary clinton, it's great to hear your voice. ♪ she speaks. after 40,150 minutes, hillary clinton looked at the press today in cedar falls, iowa. heard their questions, and then opened her mouth and she gave answers. there's no time to spare. let's go to our big wall of hillary answers. number one, her state department e-mails. the state department proposed they would all come out at once in january. today, a federal judge said no they have to come out on a rolling basis starting sooner than that. the question for hillary, do you want them out now sooner or later? hillary clinton: i have said repeatedly, i want those e-mails out. no one has a bigger interest in getting then released than i do. i respect the state department they have their process they do for everybody. not just for me. but anything they might do to expedite that process, i heartily support. john: let's be fair to secretary clinton. this is out of her hands. she turned over her e-mails and she

john: totally.hey spent a lot of time talking about bernie sanders who is the new player in the democratic side. what did you think about the reaction to him? mark: they knew a lot about him. they liked the fact he is playing a role in pulling clinton farther to the left, and they had some affection for him and respect. they did not say this totally explicitly but it seemed like they wanted somebody more like bernie sanders but they know he cannot win. john: they were not in love with his grooming, but they like the honesty and the authenticity which a lot of voters crave. and he has those things in space. -- in spades. mark: i asked them about elizabeth warren and they don't think she can beat hillary clinton. a lot of people in brooklyn at clinton's headquarters would say we hope elizabeth warren does not get in. and these people did not say that if she got in, she cannot beat her. john: they must be students of pulling. -- polling. john: you look at the polls and it is true, elizabeth warren woul

john: no, i think. in the sense that he put down a marker for where he is on a and -- where he is on faith and said some things that will appeal to some on the right of the party it was fine. i was not blown away by a presentation. i don't think he got a huge amount of cover. it didn't dominate cable news. not the way that mitt romney going and talking about his mormonism did. he's not like he has been with roadblock coverage on it. that with roadblock coverage on it. mark: he has to figure up how to get a bigger slice of parts of the conservative movement. the tea party is one thing. he interview with making kelly tonight. part of the reason they didn't achieve what they want is because, what is the news out of the interview? stance on the iraq war. he talks about immigration. he talks about two positions he supported in the past, drivers licenses for illegal aliens and in-state tuition. in both cases, iraq and immigration, that has gotten more pickup off that interview. not his talk about fate. john:

john: i'm john heilemann. with all due respect to everyone who thinks they're going to be a part of the bill simmons bidding war, you're too late. ♪ mark: love doing this show. happy national coconut cream pie day, sports fans. liberty, money and something keith olbermann would be proud of. first, getting pumped up for the poll metow state. the giant south carolina freedom summit is tomorrow. scott walker, marco rubio, ted cruz, rick perry donald trump and more. you will be there and we will be streaming all the action on bloombergpolitics.com. john: my question, who among that cast of stars has the most on the line this weekend? mark: well, everybody does because south carolina is wide open. the guy i'm watch something marco rubio. his team in south carolina is underrated. it's one of the strongest political teams any candidate's put together in any state and rubio, my hunch is, my end up being a better cultural fit and a bigger political force in south carolina than he is in new hampshire and iowa. john: i w

john quincy adams and louisa would inherit this home from john adams. thought about selling this house but after discussion and thought with louisa catherine, they decided that this was important to the family story to hold on to this house for future generations. swain: and you can visit there today, is that correct? mathews: yes, wonderful for -- swain: and where are the papers? mathews: the papers are at the massachusetts historical society in boston. they used to be at the old house at the stone library but they were transferred to the historical society for safekeeping. swain: i have a question on facebook from jeannie stunard weber -- "i have read excerpts from louisa adams autobiography of a nobody and heard rumors that the massachusetts historical society was going to publish this. is this true?" mathews: yes, a two-volume set of her autobiographical writings which includes "record of my life", "adventures of a nobody" and her narrative of a journey from saint petersburg to france, and all her diaries have already been published in a scholarly e

emily: brian, john, and john thank you for staying with me throughout the show.ime now for soundbites. tim cook is not the only tech leader offering advice to a class of 2015. snap chat ceo evan spiegel spoke at the business school graduation. he talked a lot about finding and holding onto a good idea. this is what he said about not selling to facebook. evan spiegel: no matter whether or not you sell, you will learn something valuable about yourself. you will know immediately that it was not the right dream anyway. and if you don't, you're probably on to something. it you might have the beginning of something meaningful. emily: he does not sound like he has any regrets. evan spiegel: people called us a lot of things besides crazy. arrogant and entitled. the same words i have used -- i have heard used to describe our generation. the millennial generation. the "me" generation. it is true. we do have a sense of entitlement. a sense of ownership. this is the world we were born into and we are responsible for it. emily: spiegel does not have a college degree of his ow

he said, my youngest son john jr.e first person in my family who's going to graduate from high school on may 21st. will you please go to his graduation and make sure he's okay after i'm gone. and then he spent the next 20 minutes trying to make us feel better. it was not how could you let this happen to me, it's not what are you going to do to save my life. it's about making us feel better about what we had done for him and making sure someone else is going to be okay. that's the kind of guy john thompson is. >> we were mostly silent on the way from angola to new orleans, there was very little to be said. >> on the way, gordon checked his voice mail. >> gordon had a message from elisa. >> they're driving very solemnly like it's over, as they're exiting angola. they had no cell phone coverage for miles and miles and miles. i'm calling their office in philadelphia just berserk. going nuts. >> there on my voice mail was a message from elisa saying, i found something really important, i think this is big, you have to call

john: he said i am my own man. this is the single most anticipated question of the whole jeb bush campaign. he has to have a clear answer. he does not have a yet. mark: we will see if he can get an answer who works -- that works. and the first major policy speech since he became a presidential candidate. he talked about his own foreign-policy doctrine. listen to a little bit of senator rubio from a little while ago. senator rubio: tit is written in the con -- constitution that he is commander-in-chief. mark: he did a q&a with charlie rose and with the audience. i did not hear a lot there that was specific or new. i did not hear a lot that could not have been said by many other people. what is your take away? john: the rubio doctrine consists of three pillars. ensuring american strength around the world. protecting the american economy. apple pie and now comes cherry pie, preserving the end -- moral clarity. that is vaporware. he wanted to increase the defense bus it -- budget. mark: there were a few other specifics

john: john bolton is not running for president, no passing go, no collecting $200.e is my question. what does this mean for 2016? mark: it means to me that it opens up the opportunity for people like lindsey graham marco rubio, and people like rand paul. it opens the lane for them to become in the debate, both formal and informal committee big, dominant -- and informal a big, dominant voice in the race for national security. john: he would have been the furthest right foreign policy candidate. he would have basically been arguing that we need another neocon in the white house in order to stave off the worldwide crises that we are facing around the world. it certainly opens up the far right flank on that argument and as you say, some unlike lindsey graham will be a more singular voice for that point of view without john bolton in the race and he would have been otherwise. mark: he also does bring rigor on these issues. and he brings -- he would have elevated the discussion. i will say, though it means other people may not end up running. the field might be smaller. j