john: marcus, privilege. john brown. lemonis: john, nice to meet you. john: nice to meet you, sir. becky: thank you for coming. lemonis: the smell when you walk in here is awesome. john: it is. that's what everybody says. lemonis: and so, is this whole warehouse -- is all the manufacturing? john: it is. everything is in this 3,500 square feet. lemonis: well, why don't we take a look around? john: please. please. this is our storefront. we have an extremely loyal customer base. people are coming in buying 7, 8, 9, 12 bags of coffee. there's a lot of locals that live maybe 20 miles from here. they don't want to drive the downtown, so we do ship. becky: we're in whole foods and earth fare and fresh market, as well, so they can just pick it up at the grocery store. -lemonis: oh, you are? -john: yes. lemonis: that's nice. who got that account? -becky: the previous owner. -john: previous owner. lemonis: and what will the entire business do? john: we did $840,000 last year. lemonis: how much profit? john: i want to say, last year, it was $40,000 at the most. okay. this is our production a

john: yeah!our company charging a thousand or $8,000 make everyone more hypersensitive and more likely to sue! >> it depends how it's done. when you come in first of all, some companies have to do it. in california there's a law that managers have to go through a certain amount of this training regardless every couple of years. you don't do it you're in trouble. secondarily, companies that engage diversity and inclusion in a meaningful way, they build it into strategy rather than doing training, and they focus on building a strong culture. they do perform better. john: harvard business review article says a study of 800 companies showed diversity training had no positive effect in the average workplace. >> i'm familiar with that study. training by itself as an event doesn't produce a lot of results. millions were spent on training resulting in well, nothing. >> i agree. >> if you put people through diversity training, and a company doesn't care about diversity, it doesn't matter. it's about build

john: what?t has been slow but obama was telling the truth finally we did have a strong job growth that i am sick of the politicians talking about creating jobs. if the government gets out of the way than the private sector creates real jobs the big government president wants said this. >> if you have the business unit did not feel that somebody else made that happen. >> he will meet -- meant the government built the roads but he was wrong you did bill that i assume the president's successor learned from his mistakes. >> don't let anybody tell you it is corporations or businesses that create jobs. that all the theory. john: later she said she met tax breaks but her statement reflects the anti-business attitude government is good but business is creepy and bad and i feel one williams feels that way because he is left-wing and hadley does not like that but they did not do with a lot of the. >> of course, large printers and job creators and business people can acknowledge that but that statement fro

john: e-mail. emily: facebook or twitter? john: neither. emily: why not? john: i tried it.ot so hooked on it. i'm spending an entire living moment of my life on it. i can't do it. i need to stop. emily: smart watch or no? john: no. i'm a traditionalist. emily: but you want your chips and everything. john: i am still a traditionalist. by the way, i want a chip in everything. i did not say i want to be tracked like that. i did not say that. i think there is a certain amount -- there is a certain place for that, and then i want to have my own private moment in my own private life. emily: if you were not doing what you are doing now, what would you do? what would you want to do? john: it would never happen again, because i am too old for it. i would love to go to law school. actually, i wanted to be a lawyer at a certain point in time, but my father thought it was not a good profession. emily: when is the last time you were nervous? john: i am very fortunate. i think if anything would happen to my family, i would be nervous. outside of that, there is nothing to be nervous about

john: john: -- larry: ihe said i was his hero. john: you mentioned the bob livingston thing.ou did this in the past with him and uf you have tried to do it by making ads to have somebody come forward to talk about their sexual scandals. you have tried to inhire investigators. i'm curious in 2016 if you plan to be involved in the campaign in that way -- looking into the lives of republicans. john:larry: no. 30 years ago, you could take a politician down with just a sexual affair. you cannot do that anymore. a politician from louisiana -- he got reelected to the senate and ran for governor of new orleans. there must be some kind of complicity and corruption in order to really be able to -- john: presumably, you think that is not the worst thing in the world, right? that had been so much controversy around sexual indiscretion. larry: there is hypocrisy around my company. i don't think there should be hypocrisy in politics. that is the reason why -- you got two mistresses while married. you'd think he's ward cleaver. he's not. john: the famous father on "leave it to beaver." you

john: i'm john heilemann. with all due respect to "the new york times," this is a christie's ally and this is a kirstie alley. gov. christie: with all due respect. john: happy national chocolate park day. indictments, indictments and more at stake. first, chris christie. his old pal pled guilty to two conspiracy counts of bridge gate while his lawyer said evidence exists implicating the governor in the scandal. paul fishman did not lay a finger on the big man himself. in a press conference this afternoon, he said this -- paul fishman: based on the evidence available to us today we will not bring further charges. john: after today, with respect to christie's 2016 ambitions, is he on shaky ground or firmer ground? mark: shaky ground. if you take today's plea deal and the fact the prosecutor showed these facts, christie will not be indicted, he is on firmer ground. it is hard for me to believe these three people were the only people involved. mark: you saw his people trumpeting the fact. we are exactly where we w

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john: all right.bers are accurate, but they both know -- and obama's own labor department did a study on this -- that the reason for the difference is we men are crazier than women. we're more likely to work jobs that might kill us travel for the job, work longer hours. it's not the same job. and when it is, we're paid about the same. >> right. and women take time off the work force to raise children, and that affects earning power because they don't get to the same corporate levels, etc. this is something both parties put forward -- john: but they know the truth but they say it anyway. >> it's technically true. as happens so often in politics, you take one factoid and twist it and contort it into something totally different. john: thank you, david. >> thank you. john: there are a few poll-tested phrases both parties use. here's one. >> we have the first president in the white house who doesn't believe in american exceptionalism. >> american exceptionalism. >> i'm a firm believer in american exception

john: we both think john kasich and be a big player in this case. rick snyder deciding not to run, opens up the field a lot in terms of midwestern money. i would think this of the more tempting for john kasich with rick snyder out. mark: no question. specifically, money from michigan. as we said, another name missing from the freedom summit is jeb bush, the former florida governor will give a commencement speech at liberty university. the school famously founded by jerry falwell, and also well takers announced he was running for president. jeb bush has rehearsed this speech, it is a big one. and exert released says how big a deal they think it is. he is going to say, whenever the need, the affliction, or the injustice, there is no more powerful or liberating influence on this earth than the christian conscious in action. why is this so important to his candidacy? john: bill, what do you think about this? bill doesn't have a view. i will take his proxy and say we have seen polling and see that he has problems with conservatives. we have seen it in re

john: and heim john heilemann. with all due respect, t.g.i.f. mark: happy national pizza party day, sports fans. in our lineup tonight, a dinner and a show. first the dinner. tomorrow in des moines, 11 republican presidential candidates are -- or would-be candidates are attending the lincoln day dinner the catch it all live and i promise it's going to be hilarious. mark who got? mark: my main focus is on walker bush, and rick perry. right now if you look at the early states, the only state, not counting lindsey graham in south carolina, the favorite son, the only state with somebody right now who is a clear favorite and could change the couldn't tours of the fight by winning is walker in iowa. john: since you have taken all the people in the hard disagreement zone, those people are interesting the jeb bush had a horrible week. all eyes are going to be on him so that's important. scott walker is all the things you just said, and also someone who has been off the radar screen. obviously someone really interesting to look at. i continue to be fasci

john wilkes booth -- only john wilkes booth was successful. right here was the location of the kirkwood house. that is where johnson was staying. during the afternoon of the 14th, john wilkes booth did stop at the kirkwood house and asked the clerk to stick a card in johnson's box where he wrote "don't wish to disturb you. are you at home? j.w. booth." some historians think he did that to frame johnson in case george azterodt did not carry out his plan to assassinate johnson, which in fact he did not. here is the theatre and the house across the street where president lincoln died, the petersen boardinghouse. george never carries it out. he was staying in the same house where johnson was to go to his room that same night and shoot him. instead, he goes to germantown and the weapons are found in his room by investigators within 24 hours after president lincoln's assassination. this was the rogers house, this is where secretary of state seward was recovering from a carriage accident. this is where lewis powell did make successful entry into the

john: i'm john heilemann. mark: and i'm mark halperin. "with all due respect" to fifa's sepp blatter, you can count on our support for the right price. ♪ mark: on the show tonight, the music man -- bernie sanders faces the music and the ed gillespie musical. first, the latest news from the indicted former house speaker, dennis hastert of illinois. several news organizations reporting he allegedly paid a younger male hush money to conceal sexual misconduct that occurred during his time as a high school wrestler coach and teacher in illinois. not much new being reported today. lots of unanswered questions. john, where is this story going next? john: i think it is rapidly going towards the place where we are going to know everything that actually occurred. we know something about the timing from the indictment. it is important to note that what he is accused of -- he was not engaging in the hush money activities during speaker of the house. the activity goes back years before that and we will find out what we wanted to know and didn't want t

john: right.et that same year the president also said this. >> my administration is increasing federal student aid some more students can afford college. [applause] john: what? doesn't he see the disconnect? i think he does, but he still panders for votes by giving your money away. it's not his money. and then his handouts increase tuition costs so lots of students leave college deep in debt. another reason another reason to wonder, today is college worth it? that is the title of the book. i would think it is worth it for some people who really want to learn. >> exactly. for some people it can be worth it. that's what we say in the book. john: and lots of people don't have that. most i would say. >> many. i would say many. the graduation rates are pretty low to lie about 50% graduate within six years. if you consider we have a lot of taxpayers supporting people who never finish's i think americans have a right to be disappointed. john: the president wants to make committee college free two years.

john: what?t has been slow but obama was telling the truth finally we did have a strong job growth that i am sick of the politicians talking about creating jobs. if the government gets out of the way than the private sector creates real jobs the big government president wants said this. >> if you have the business unit did not feel that somebody else made that happen. >> he will meet -- meant the government built the roads but he was wrong you did bill that i assume the president's successor learned from his mistakes. >> don't let anybody tell you it is corporations or businesses that create jobs. that all the theory. john: later she said she met tax breaks but her statement reflects the anti-business attitude government is good but business is creepy and bad and i feel one williams feels that way because he is left-wing and hadley does not like that but they did not do with a lot of the. >> of course, large printers and job creators and business people can acknowledge that but that statement fro

john: me, too.now is we heard, like four five six shots and nobody was taking it serious. >> this is a fox news alert from america's news headquarters. i'm kelly wright. police killing two suspected gunmen sunday who opened for at a security officer. it happened in the dallas suburb of garland. that security guard was shot in the leg but is back home tonight. the bomb squad is still on the scene. they're using a robotic device to inspect the two men who were shot as well as their vehicle. at one point overnight, our fox news reporter

where i think a line has to be john is at threat. you could argue about if this is a threat or not, but i know the person at home this was directed at felt this was a threat, and twitter let's people say a lot of things. what they cannot let people do is incite people to commit violence against other people on the service. mark: it is a private service. you do not have the right to be on twitter. but what if someone who did not have his reputation tweeted the same thing? john: they probably would not have noticed if it were someone who do not have a following to that extent. i just do not think that for the reasons you just said, we do not let people come on our air and make bets, and we're not practicing censorship -- mark: if you go on your ipad right now and we "if you see karl rove and punch them in the face," is that inciting violence? john: i think that will be fine. i think that would be ok. it would depend on if there was a serious intent to it or not mark:. how can you tell from the language? john: like pornography. there is

john: that is a fight he wants.ark: the year 2000, al gore was in iowa and mike huckabee was back in arkansas. it was fitting and proper that two figures that played a big role in the last century had rare print interviews. al gore began a three-day trip in iowa. he said that iowans should pressure presidential candidates to put climate change high up on the platforms. chelsea clinton told the washington post that their family is no stranger to scrutiny. what do you make of these interviews? john: chelsea clinton, not surprising at all. she said some things that are expected. what is al gore doing in iowa if not stirring up trouble? mark: he does this all over the country. he does workshops on the environment. he said in the interview that he wants the environment to be part of the candidates' agenda. john: it is on the brink of a presidential campaign. he cares about climate change. he has a mischievous side. mark: the are a lot of people that said if hillary clinton does not support it, she could lose. up next, we

john: and i'm john heilemann.nd with all due respect hillary clinton, it's great to hear your voice. ♪ she speaks. after 40,150 minutes, hillary clinton looked at the press today in cedar falls, iowa. heard their questions, and then opened her mouth and she gave answers. there's no time to spare. let's go to our big wall of hillary answers. number one, her state department e-mails. the state department proposed they would all come out at once in january. today, a federal judge said no they have to come out on a rolling basis starting sooner than that. the question for hillary, do you want them out now sooner or later? hillary clinton: i have said repeatedly, i want those e-mails out. no one has a bigger interest in getting then released than i do. i respect the state department they have their process they do for everybody. not just for me. but anything they might do to expedite that process, i heartily support. john: let's be fair to secretary clinton. this is out of her hands. she turned over her e-mails and she

john: totally.hey spent a lot of time talking about bernie sanders who is the new player in the democratic side. what did you think about the reaction to him? mark: they knew a lot about him. they liked the fact he is playing a role in pulling clinton farther to the left, and they had some affection for him and respect. they did not say this totally explicitly but it seemed like they wanted somebody more like bernie sanders but they know he cannot win. john: they were not in love with his grooming, but they like the honesty and the authenticity which a lot of voters crave. and he has those things in space. -- in spades. mark: i asked them about elizabeth warren and they don't think she can beat hillary clinton. a lot of people in brooklyn at clinton's headquarters would say we hope elizabeth warren does not get in. and these people did not say that if she got in, she cannot beat her. john: they must be students of pulling. -- polling. john: you look at the polls and it is true, elizabeth warren woul

john: no, i think. in the sense that he put down a marker for where he is on a and -- where he is on faith and said some things that will appeal to some on the right of the party it was fine. i was not blown away by a presentation. i don't think he got a huge amount of cover. it didn't dominate cable news. not the way that mitt romney going and talking about his mormonism did. he's not like he has been with roadblock coverage on it. that with roadblock coverage on it. mark: he has to figure up how to get a bigger slice of parts of the conservative movement. the tea party is one thing. he interview with making kelly tonight. part of the reason they didn't achieve what they want is because, what is the news out of the interview? stance on the iraq war. he talks about immigration. he talks about two positions he supported in the past, drivers licenses for illegal aliens and in-state tuition. in both cases, iraq and immigration, that has gotten more pickup off that interview. not his talk about fate. john:

john: agreed.k: and if his position is that the war was worth fighting he will be on the wrong side of. public opinion. . it is the position of some people in his party. john: not what you need if you are hoping to win a sound portion of the electorate. mark: this may be our lead tomorrow. john: john bolton is not running for president. no passing go, no collecting $200. this means what? mark: i thought he was going to run. i spent time with him last weekend, and it seemed like he was getting ready to run. this opens an opportunity for people like lindsey graham or marco rubio who have been emphasizing social security, it opens the lane for them to be a dominant voice on national security. john: i was hoping there would be able to in -- a bolton in this race. he would have been the furthest right foreign policy candidate. he would have been arguing we need another neocon in the white house. it certainly leaves open the far right on that argument. as you say, someone like lindsey graham could occupy

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he said, my youngest son john jr.e first person in my family who's going to graduate from high school on may 21st. will you please go to his graduation and make sure he's okay after i'm gone. and then he spent the next 20 minutes trying to make us feel better. it was not how could you let this happen to me, it's not what are you going to do to save my life. it's about making us feel better about what we had done for him and making sure someone else is going to be okay. that's the kind of guy john thompson is. >> we were mostly silent on the way from angola to new orleans, there was very little to be said. >> on the way, gordon checked his voice mail. >> gordon had a message from elisa. >> they're driving very solemnly like it's over, as they're exiting angola. they had no cell phone coverage for miles and miles and miles. i'm calling their office in philadelphia just berserk. going nuts. >> there on my voice mail was a message from elisa saying, i found something really important, i think this is big, you have to call

john: i'm john heilemann. with all due respect to everyone who thinks they're going to be a part of the bill simmons bidding war, you're too late. ♪ mark: love doing this show. happy national coconut cream pie day, sports fans. liberty, money and something keith olbermann would be proud of. first, getting pumped up for the poll metow state. the giant south carolina freedom summit is tomorrow. scott walker, marco rubio, ted cruz, rick perry donald trump and more. you will be there and we will be streaming all the action on bloombergpolitics.com. john: my question, who among that cast of stars has the most on the line this weekend? mark: well, everybody does because south carolina is wide open. the guy i'm watch something marco rubio. his team in south carolina is underrated. it's one of the strongest political teams any candidate's put together in any state and rubio, my hunch is, my end up being a better cultural fit and a bigger political force in south carolina than he is in new hampshire and iowa. john: i w

john: john bolton is not running for president, no passing go, no collecting $200.e is my question. what does this mean for 2016? mark: it means to me that it opens up the opportunity for people like lindsey graham marco rubio, and people like rand paul. it opens the lane for them to become in the debate, both formal and informal committee big, dominant -- and informal a big, dominant voice in the race for national security. john: he would have been the furthest right foreign policy candidate. he would have basically been arguing that we need another neocon in the white house in order to stave off the worldwide crises that we are facing around the world. it certainly opens up the far right flank on that argument and as you say, some unlike lindsey graham will be a more singular voice for that point of view without john bolton in the race and he would have been otherwise. mark: he also does bring rigor on these issues. and he brings -- he would have elevated the discussion. i will say, though it means other people may not end up running. the field might be smaller. j

with john.nd she didn't see him again until he was 17 or 18. so he became a man and -- susan swain: under the tutelage of his father. edith gelles: under the tutelage of his father. but she was very influential in those first 11 years. i balk at this tendency blame the mother every time something goes wrong with the children. circumstances happen. there are genes. i mean, there is possibly a genetic predisposition to alcoholism in that family. abigail's brother died of it and there apparently were other members of the family. and it's certainly was in the culture and the kind of sensitivity to alcohol. edith gelles: so a revolution happened when her children grew up. they grew up in wartime. that can be very, very damaging to children's psyches. susan swain: the year 1800 was a very, very difficult year for the adamses. a campaign for re-election hard fought against the big political rival in thomas jefferson they lost that. that was also a year that they moved to the white house and they also l

how was john to know. this is the declaration of independence here, with the famous signature of john hancock. one of the myths about john hanson, and there are quite a few, is that he was a signer of the declaration. he wasn't. he was a signer of the articles of confederation, but not the declaration of independence. at the same time that the declaration was put forth, there was a motion put forth to form a continental congress and have it draft a constitution. by the fall of 1777, the committee reported in. we don't have a government yet. the second continental congress was a consultative body of 13 colonies and states that were trying to form a government. this committee came up with its draft of a charter in the articles of confederation in september 1777. congress looked it over and tweaked a few things and in november signed off on it and said this is what we want to submit to the states. they had separate governments. because they declared independence they were 13 separate nationstates, much as you

john, are you able to hear us across the atlantic? john cleese: yes, i can hear.ers in the united kingdom are going to vote on may 7. how can it be that there are four nations within one country? john cleese: england and scotland joined together in 1707. in 1800, they were joined by ireland. then in 1922, we lost the southern ireland representatives and had only the representatives of northern ireland. so the united kingdom consists of scotland, wales, england, and northern ireland -- mark: the current prime minister is david cameron. he is the leader of the tory party. what is that guy like? john cleese: he's an old etonian, which means he does not understand anybody who has not been left a lot of money. i do not think he is a bad chap, but i do not basically like the tory party. i think these people are not ideally suited to dealing with the problem that most people feel the pinch financially in our country except the top 1%. mark: there is this other chap named ed miliband. does he have a chance to be the next prime minister? john cleese: i think he does. i saw

john brown or john wilkes booth?o have accepted booth. in 1904, the statue was erected in honor of booth. in honor of killing abraham lincoln. a novelist said you cannot help feel but a deep love for booth. you can't help it. then former rand paul aide jack hunter who helped write a book on the tea party every may 10th which is the birthday of john wilkes booth raises a the east to his hero to booth. he said booth's heart is in the right place. there are people, not that many, but there are, who loved john wilkes booth. there are people who love john brown. a lot of people don't like john brown either. even to this day, there are some good historians who just think he is a crazy fanatic. however, someone like emerson said that he was the new saint who made his gallows like the cross, in other words, he was like jesus christ. frederick douglass said, i could live for the slaves, but john brown could die for them. i could live for the slave. debbie beois wrote a nice book on brown. so whose law was right? let's look at

john: one last question.you think about these two guys, the likelihood is that there will be a hung election. which of these two guys has a political resourcefulness and has a likelihood of cobbling together a coalition government? john micklethwait: most people still say cameron. because he did it before. he has a good ability to lose something -- that has happened. and then do something quickly. against that, everybody who underrated and miliband -- i say the wrong miliband did everybody who underrates him, he is quite close and a far better chance than anybody thought of getting there. john: our boss our friend. , we will abuse you more thoroughly. when we come back, the clinton high command revealed. ♪ mark: big day in clinton land. bill clinton in morocco talking about the foundation, state departments saying hillary should not have used private e-mail. we have a bit more from hillary land. who is really in and out as part of her inner circle? joining us from los angeles, je nn. the story that we have on

john: he said i am my own man. this is the single most anticipated question of the whole jeb bush campaign. he has to have a clear answer. he does not have a yet. mark: we will see if he can get an answer who works -- that works. and the first major policy speech since he became a presidential candidate. he talked about his own foreign-policy doctrine. listen to a little bit of senator rubio from a little while ago. senator rubio: tit is written in the con -- constitution that he is commander-in-chief. mark: he did a q&a with charlie rose and with the audience. i did not hear a lot there that was specific or new. i did not hear a lot that could not have been said by many other people. what is your take away? john: the rubio doctrine consists of three pillars. ensuring american strength around the world. protecting the american economy. apple pie and now comes cherry pie, preserving the end -- moral clarity. that is vaporware. he wanted to increase the defense bus it -- budget. mark: there were a few other specifics