john aarons meyer is founder and ceo of the small business majority. daniel pink was aide to form ee deputy of labor. his latest book is "to sell is human: the surprising truth about moving others." and the change agent of marketing is here, jeffrey is head of the hazlitt group and speaks to and advises small business owners. >> good to be here, jj. >> jeffrey, i'm going to ask you, because you talk to so many small business people every day. do you feel like there is a sense of optimism, that people are excited about next year? >> i won't use the word excited, but you can tell the mood has started to shift, which is really nice. people are getting over some of the issues in washington, i'm sure other panelists will talk about that more, but they are getting into an optimistic mood and we're starting to hear a lot of people who are tweeting me back and writing on social media they are looking at hiring more people and doing other things, so they are getting ready for 2014 and starting to implement that. >> what are you hearing? >> exactly the same thin