. >> and, john allen, you're watching right along with us. these are some extraordinary events we're seeing. >> they are absolutely remarkable. you know, i can tell you, john and zoraida, based on the reporting i've been doing this week, i think pope francis has charmed the entire world except for one small constituency which are his security patrol who are quite frankly at witt's end what he's going to do next and how to keep him safe. obviously this is a pope who is determined to be as close to his people as possible, not to be walled off from them, and at a pastoral level, at a human level, that's a remarkably endearing quality, but for the people who are charged with his security, it also has got their blood pressure up. i think we're seeing additional indications this morning of how he's going to be somebody that they're going to have to sort of figure out a new script to make sure he can be as close to people as possible but at the same time not be putting himself in harm's way. >> john, i want to stay with you for a second here and talk

. >> i want to bring in senior vatican analyst, john allen, as well. john, as you reflect -- we have spoken a lot already today, but as you reflect at this late hour on what you've witnessed today, what really stands out? >> you know, in many -- we used to say john paul ii was the pope of firsts. the first pope to travel as much as he did. the first pope to visit the western wall and all of these things. in a way -- in a flash, pope francis has become himself, a pope of so many firsts. the first pope from latin america, the first jesuit pope and all of that. but to me, and it may be the sort of catholic thing. you have to sort of have grown up in a catholic environment to grasp the magnitude. the most stunning part was the choice of his name, pope francis. we almost sort of thought there were two faces of the church, the institutional church, which is about, you know, power and influence and moving the wheels of the institution. and then there's the face of the church that is close to the people. close to the poor. close to the earth. the spirit of the

it is like going to mass as john allen would say. silent voting and tabulating and that's it. there is no real politicking, just watching and thinking and voting. >> until maybe those power lunches or power dinners when they're outside of the sistine chapel. here is what i want to know, chris cuomo. what keeps these different cardinals from, you know, each and every election within the conclave writing that same name down on that piece of paper. how did they -- how long could this go on? >> well, it is an interesting question. first of all, with the cardinals would say is, well, it is prayer, there is source in prayer. they're counting themselves, looking around the room and they are having these power lunches and dinners that you're talking about. there is a lot of contact going on after and in between votes as the sistine chapel itself. how long could it go on? okay. you want it to go on long enough you get somebody that represents who you think is important. and that is the mood among these cardinals, more than it has been in rece

so people are coming in as john allen just explained to me.if it's black smoke, not a bad time to hit the restaurants in the area, get a nice meal. so it's an occasion any way you look at it. let me bring in john allen senior vatican analyst. father edward beck, cnn contributor. all right a little bit of a tone change here. we've been talking about how there are big issues and they have to figure it out and maybe there's a reformer. but a reformer could mean in the eyes of the church as they bring back the throne and the crown as father edwards say. does that mean anything is the point? my question to you is this, don't they have to make an important change on the big ticket issues, sex abuse scandal, money mismanagement? doesn't the pope have to come out and say, as headlines, nothing vague this time as we're used to, but that this matters, this matters. isn't that -- are we at that threshold of urgency? >> listen. i think all the issues you just ticked off, money management, other administrative questions, they are critical. and obviously in

he's a very thoughtful person. >> john allen, is there substance here? mean, is there meaning in this new style, the vehicle he rides in and the style of vestments he wears? you could say these are small things when you compare them to making decisions on church teachings or the way the church is run, but do you think there's a message here? >> well, look, anderson, the plain fact of the matter is that popes teach not only with their words but also with their deeds, with their gestures. and i mean, you're right, i mean, these are small things at the very outset of a pontificate, but he's setting a tone. in addition to the things you mentioned, i was also struck by the fact that when the cardinals were leaving the casa santa marta, the papal limousine was ready for the new pope to hop in and separate himself from the crowd, and instead of doing that, he decided to get on the bus with the fellas and ride with the other cainals, which we would call a gesture of collegiality. that is, the pope is not above the other cardinals and other bishops of the church,

i want to bring in cnn senior vatican analyst john allen. john, it was interesting. it sounds like the pope was just bringing in the biblical story of the women who was accused of adultery and how jesus saves her from being stoned to death. what stands out to you with a pope today in the first of some of his events that we're seeing him in his true glory as pope? >> well, first of all, christi, the first thing that stands out, i think, just the enormous crowd of people that turned out for this event. the vatican estimated the other night the crowd at about 150,000 for his election. today, it seems to most of us that it is substantially larger than that and i think that reflects the kind of appeal that francis has had in his first three days as pope. we're seeing a very humble, simple man who is not sort of shackled by the pomp and circumstance, the grandeur of the papacy and make every effort that he can to reach out to people. earlier this morning we saw him celebrate a mass for vatican personnel, st. ann's church and he stood outside afterwards and said hello to th

i'm joined here by john allen. and father edward beck down in st. peter's square, a team of people down there, led by anderson cooper who is getting afeel for the excitement. we're watching from here as the swiss guard starts to seamible, getting ready for tpresentation of the pope. how high is the excitement? >> it is really building. you see people literally pouring in here by the second. thousands of people coming in. every now and then there will be a crowd of young people dancing as they move, try to get a position closer to the balcony. we talked with some americans here, you can hear a cheer going up in some parts of the crowd. it really is an incredibly festive atmosphere. people, as i said, from all around the world, i just talked to a woman who lived in new york but is from hungary, originally. everyone wants to be here. and you see people on their cell phones, they're talking to their loved ones around the world, or encouraging their friends or relatives elsewhere in rome to try to get here as quickly as possible. now that the rain has le

john allen has reported many times what we believe from the last conclave was that he was number two,o then joseph ratzinger, now pope benedict xvi emeritus. as the perfect compromise candidate, 76 years old, but that he could be a unifier, your thoughts? >> well, i mean cardinal b bergoglio was a runner up in 2005. he comes from a society of jesus, a religious order respected not only for its religious accomplishment but social activism. humble man. when he was installed as the cardinal in beau nas air ris, he was not going to take the chauffeured limousine but the bus to work. if you wanted to talk to the cardinal you got on that bus and could have an audience. >> cooks his own meals. >> stays in his own simple apartment. >> the problem, chris, is that on the heels of a pope who resigned citing age and exhaustion, i think it is going to be difficult for some of these 115 cardinals to see a 76-year-old man who has had his own struggles with fatigue, as the logical successor. >> and there is a little bit of speculation about his health, fair point. again, as we're thinking about if th

let's listen for a moment. ♪ miguel marquez and john allen standing by there in vatican city. understand john's having trouble hearing us so i'll put this question to you, miguel. these days the pope really needs to be part saint and part mba to operate as a successful pontiff. he's very much a pastoral and not a bureaucrat. is it a sense he has the chops for reform? and just as importantly to battle the internal politics? >> yeah. i think, john, are you hearing that question? he's talking about the internal politics and does this pope -- >> does he have the steel and spine to pull it off. listen, michael, i will tell you that is the central question. i think there is no doubt that the 114 cardinals who elected pope francis wanted a reformer. they wanted someone who can get his hands around the bureaucracy of the vatican and shake the place up. part of the reason -- part of his appeal was that he's an outsider to that environment. never worked in the vatican a day in his life. he has run a conquest institution in the archdiocese in argentina. they have taken someone who is an o

that's a pope who is going to redefine what papal power means. >> let's bring in john allen. n rome. our senior vatican analyst. john, we're discussing here whether this was a specific call from the pope. or was it a little contextized, where you thread through the message itself. how did it line up for you? >> first of all, i was struck by the fact that pope francis surprised us by not surprising us. this is the first time he's been in public that he's stuck to the prepared script, more or less, which i think reflects the fact this wasn't evening at the impr improv. he thought carefully about the message he wanted to deliver here today. i think all of the specific points that we've been talking about are on the money. but to me, the heart of this homily came near the end. when he talked about his understanding of power. remember, this is his inaugural mass. this is when the fullness of the power of the papacy, he takes possession of it. and he indicated that the important thing to understand about power, from the point of view from the church, is that power is about service.

what happens now, john allen? we saw the black smoke. there's no debating or discussion during the votes inside the chapel. it's happening tonight. >> right. what happens in the sistine chapel is more like going to church than a political convention. it's highly ceremonial. most of the time, it's eaten up by the choreography of casting ballots. each cardinal goes up individually, deposits his ballot. it happens 115 times. there are 115 electors. each ballot takes wan hour to hour and a half. if you do two in the morning and two in the afternoon, that's the day. the politics don't unfold in the sistine chapel. they unfold in the hotel on vatican grounds where the cardinals are staying. breakfast, lunch, dinner, during the down time, it's where they will have conversations about who seems to have legs as a candidate. that kind of thing. >> you have talked to cardinals in the past who have gone through this procedure. how frank where the discussions happening? >> these conversations are remarkably frank. this is not attack ad politics but t

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chris cuomo, john allen, chris, i wouldn't rule john allen out, i've known him a couple of years. he still could be in play here. i want to get back to our top story this hour. >>> two american soldiers killed this morning in eastern afghanistan. a gunman wearing an afghan security forces uniform opening fire on a group of nato and afghan service members. ten other u.s. service members wounded in that attack. our nic payton walsh following the story for us from beirut. nic, just in the last little while we've heard the green berets were perhaps involved in the attack. tell us about that. >> reporter: we are getting more details around this attack. green berets involved, not clear if they are amongst the dead or injured. this is at a joint base which they were using along it seems with other u.s. type of troop and afghan soldiers and perhaps police as well. we understand from afghan officials that this one shooter, not clear if he actually was afghan security forces or not, he left on the back on the back of a truck and used a heavy machine gun to make this particular attack as you

but john allen, senior vatican analyst here for cnn.ded a couple of facts to the equation that could explain something going on beyond simple tallying. what else could be going on that could prolong this session? >> one possibility is the cardinals could be praying the night prayer of the catholic church, called vespers, in the sistine chapel before they decide to leave and make their way to the casa santa marta. another possibility -- that's the spiritual possibility. the more human possibility is the in between the with ballots typically there is a bathroom break because there are no restrooms inside the sistine chapel. depending on how long that takes, you can add five, 10, 15 minutes to either side of the equation. >> allow me to

i'm asking that question to you, john allen. >> well, listen.ys to come, people are going to be digging extensively into the new pope's background. and his relationship to the military in argentina will come up. when cardinal bergoglio was asked that question, he was square against the militater dictatorsh dictatorship. what he resisted was an over politicization of the church. he didn't want to see priests getting directly involved in partisan politics because his argument was, the best way to save that society was by preaching the gospel and promoting a change of heart and mind. until the individual heart changes can the structures change. not everyone accepted that choice. i don't think once this dig is over, there's going to be a serious case that was he an apologist for that dictatorship. >> we're going to let you continue talking about our new pope. and what we can expect for the roman catholic church. edward beck and john allen, cnn senior vatican analysts. >>> coming up, we'll speak with anne barrett doyle. she is part of a watchdog grou

i'm here with john allen our senior vatican analyst, father edward beck passionist priest. in looking at this man, pope francis, john, how much do we have to judge him by how he's been? because frankly, there is a concern that he is a traditionalist, in quotes, which means he is not going to advance social agenda or do the types of things many more reform minded catholics want to see. how much do you judge him by his past? how much can he change in the future? >> i think the book on cardinal bergoglio now pope francis would be looking at his record in argentina is that he would profile as a solid conservative on matters of doctrine, so that is issues such as abortion and gay marriage and those sorts of things he would be seen astra digsalist i guess in that sense. that is someone who would be a robustly orthodox -- opposed to gay marriage, contraception, and so on. however, the other part of that picture is, he also profiles as someone four square committed to the church's teaching on social justice, that is defense of the poor, defense of the downtrodden. in other words, it

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as john allen said and john beck said, it's the inauguration of the holy father to the ministry. he's not calling himself the vi vickar of christ. all of these terms are important. once you are the bishop of rome, you invite a lot more acumenical consensus of this role and what it might be. inauguration of the petrine administration not vickar of christ. >> monseigneur, we are seeing our first live pictures of pope francis riding atop the popemobile. >> no enclosure. there is no enclosure there. let's listen for a moment. [ speaking foreign language ] >>> so the first thing i notice here is the fact that the popemobile is not enclosed very much keeping in mind with pope francis and his connection to people and having access, but a little concerned about that. what did you say? does that concern you at all? tnchts father beck, is security an issue, do you think? >> i think it probably will always be an issue, but it just seems right now that for pope francis, he's not going to let it get in the way of his want be to be a shepherd of his flock. the masses during the week ends, he b

>> well, as john allen just said, we really don't know. there are lots of scenarios. i think that the longer it goes, the more outside the box they'll be thinking. and so, there are a lot of pundits who were saying that a quick conclave would mean an italian pope. if it means trying to break a logjam or a tie between some kind of voting blocs, then the compromise candidate starts to enter into the picture, and maybe that's where we start to see somebody that perhaps nobody's even thought of. we've got all these short lists of 10, 12 names, and depending upon how things go during their conversations, somebody else gets surfaced, and suddenly rises to the top and it might be somebody that's not even been on a list. >> a winning pope would need 77 ballots out of the 115 votes to be elected. give me a sense of, the way you described it, i guess gives me some insight in this which is you have, say five, six people who are now on this list. does it work that you just sort of narrow it down, the bottom two fall off, or as you say, is it possible that sort of new names keep r

now, let be bring in john allen. senior vatican analyst. this part of the day, three votes, no pope, no concern to you, because historically we shouldn't have one by right now. >> that's right. we only got a pope on three ballots once, 1939. last time, of course, 2005, four ballots. we don't know, thatted radically outweighs what we do know. one scenario, there is a single candidate just a few votes short of the magical 2/3 threshold of 77 votes. they will go back in this afternoon and that candidate will be pushed over the top and we'll have a pope. the other scenario, there are two, three, four, five, candidates that got a smattering of the votes and no idea which candidate may be able to get to the 2/3 threshold, which means this break for lunch is incredibly important. they have to do heavy lifting to figure out which one of the candidates might be plausible in terms of becoming pope. >> this is still ongoing, taking questions right now. constitutionality feeds on vatican tv. someone asked, we heard there are reports, and there were rep

john allen joining us again from rome. good to see you again, john.imes" reporting that then-cardinal bergoglio in 2010 quietly suggested the church come out in support of civil unions. at the same time he was publicly leading the charge against same sex marriage in argentina. so it's an amazing revolution. explain exactly what he said and why he kind of changed his stance. >> well, hello michael and fredricka. yes. what we know is "new york times" is reporting today that there was a meeting of the bishops of argentina ahead of a national debate on same sex marriage in which then cardinal jorge mario bergoglio as that perhaps they could accept civil recognition but not same sex marriage. we've reached out to sources in argentina though we can't confirm the details of that meeting, what we do know is what's reported in this piece is consistent with the way cardinal bergoglio handled this issue over the years. that is he has opposed the idea of making other kinds of living arrangements equivalent to marriage between a man and a woman, but he has also si

john allen joining us now from rome. analyst and senior correspondent for the national catholic reporter. john, what is the mood like there without a pope? this must be kind of strange. >> brianna, a weird, in between time. in one way the mood is kind of quiet. in this town, the pope is more or less the star of the show. when there's no pope, in a sense, there's no show. but on the other hand, this is also campaign season for the catholic church. also a lot of excitement in the roman air about what might be going on behind the closed doors when the cardinals get together and, ultimately, who the next pope is going to be. >> a lot going on and a lot of meetings and a whole lot to do. who is running things in the vatican? i am assuming the lights are still on. >> yes, continuity of power in the vatican. when there is no pope, the empty seat, power to govern the church resides in the college of cardinals. now, of course, that's a body of 207 guys as of today. so, there is a smaller group composed of the dean of the college o

. >> joining from us rome, senior vatican analyst john allen.ng more about how he was elected obviously but what do you think made him stand out? >> reporter: i think the election of cardinal bergoglio was the intersection two of different forces. one, there were a number of cardinals going into the conclave wanted to elect somebody for putting a face on the 1.2 billion catholics who live in the developing world, so they were looking for somebody who came from that part of the world and latin america struck them as the best bet. the other camp was an anti-establishment mood among many of the 114 cardinals who elected bergoglio, who felt that old ways of doing business in the vatican and the old guard needed to be swept out, there needed to be a serious reform in the direction of greater transparency, greater accountability, and greater efficiency. they wanted an outsider, somebody not connected to the old guard to do that and of course cardinal bergoglio has never worked a day in the vatican in his life. these two things came together, a latin a

let's bring in john allen. he's in rome, of course. where else? tuesday is the big day. the idea of why it was selected? it's considered in italy to be a bit of an unlucky day. >> reporter: there's sort of an old roman's wise tale you don't want to start anything on tuesday. in this case the cardinals decided they would roll the dice because they wanted to get this thing under way. and the purpose of the period we just lived through over the last week and a half was to get themselves organized. they don't want the spectacle of a long conclave with the divisions and chaos and internal fighting and all of that. obviously they think they have some preliminary consensus worked out. so they're ready to bring the curtain up on this great piece of theater we're going to be seeing playing out in rome over the next few days. >> explain that theater. what is likely to happen? >> well, what's going to happen is tuesday morning the cardinals will celebrate the mass or the election of the pope to sort of join in prayer for a successful conclave. that afternoon they will file into the

i asked cnn senior vatican analyst john allen. >> i think in terms of style we've already seen indicationspope his own way. the night of his election the master of ceremonies, the vatican's guy who's in charge of the fine points of ritual, attempted to put on him a piece of dress which he just refused to do. he's been told various times is to stop addad libbing. he's indicated he's going to continue to do that. i think he'll blaze his own path. whether or not positions he took as a cardinal are going to track with the positions he takes as pope is another question. there are precedents for times when cardinals have taken very strong positions before they came into the papacy and then had to moderate those positions once they were on the job. for example, eight years ago cardinal joseph ratzinger entered the papacy with a very vong position against turkey's candidacy to enter european union. but as pope he upheld the vatican's official diplomatic line which is neutrality as long as human rights guarantees are upheld. we have to see if the level substance of how much the cardinal's then-posi

i'm joined by john allen in rome.t for cnn and the senior correspondent for the national catholic reporter, an independent newspaper not associated with the catholic church. i want to talk politics in a moment but tell us, john, who the leading candidates are. >> reporter: brianna, predictions are always dangerous and also fun. if you talk to most observers, you would get four names as leading candidates. one would be cardinal angela scola of milan. an electoral but nuts and bolts experience running a big archdiocese in milan. cardinal u let. then cardinal odilosch had erer. finally, you have the endlessly charismatic cardinal timothy dolan from new york. one much those four guys wins is anybody's guess. i think all four of them are getting a serious look from the 115 cardinals who will file into the sistine chapel and start picking a hope. >>> as i recall, it wasn't the top guy or the runaway favorite. these things do develop, john. sort of on to the politics of this. do you think there is division over potential can

we weren't surprised because we have john allen and we knew that it's very unusual, but this vote ishe one that brought us benedict in the last conclave. that's why we're watching especially right now because we believe they're about three quarters of the way through their first vote. so if there's any smoke right now, it would have to be white because they only burn ballots after two unsuccessful votes. that's why we're a bit on edge here. >> you look at the crowd in st. peter's square, not a huge crowd by standards we've seen in the past or even yesterday, but remember it is pouring with rain here. it is really miserable out. it is cold. these people have been waiting for a long time because they know this afternoon's session there's a very real possibility of seeing a pope elected and they want to be there to witness that. >> absolutely. what i remember guys is eight years ago we were sitting here after the inconclusive ballot in the morning and talking about a divided conclave and how we could be here for days and that afternoon white smoke and we had a pope. that's why i think t

i talked to cnn's senior vatican analyst john allen about the scandal and the upcoming conclave and i started out by asking john if o'brien's admission would have an impact on the cardinals' vote. >> what it is likely to do is reinforce a conviction that was already very strong among 1915 cardinals who are going to be voting in this election. first of all that the next pope has to profile as a reformer on the child sexual abuse scandals that have rocked the catholic church. that is he has to strike the world as part of the solution rather than part of the problem. and the other thing is if nothing else, he has to have clean hands himself on this crisis. that is he can't carry any baggage into office. as i say the cardinals were already thinking along those line bus certainly, this news about cardinal o'brien will set that into cement. >> and then there's a report in the sunday london times saying the cardinals will ask the new pope once that person is selected, to actually pledge to serve until death. what do you know about that? >> reporter: well, this is a report that first broke in

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for that, jeffrey brown talked with john allen a short time ago. allen covers the vatican for the "national catholic reporter" and is an analyst for cnn. >> brown: john, welcome once again. what signals and tone are people there picking up from the pope today and in recent days? >> jeff, in effect today was the end of a beginning. from wednesday whenope franc stped t onhat balcony overlooking st. peter's square through his inaugural mass this morning what he's been doing in effect to s to spro introduce himself to the world and as introductions go most people here believe it's been a great performance. he's charmed people with this emphasis on a humbler, simpler style in the papacy closer to the people. beginning now the focus shifts from style to substance. how is this tone going to be translated into the hard work of governing the church and there the challenges are considerably more steep. >> brown: give us a sense of what he's up against. a lot of talk about the hierarchy, the bureaucracy of the vatican. how things work. what is he up sghebs >>

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. >> brown: a short time ago i talked to john allen near st. peter's square. he's an analyst for cnn and a correspondent for the "national catholic reporter." so,, as we watch the pope fly away today, is his future role as emeritus pope clear? it's a new position, after all. >> it is. what benedict the 16th has told us is he is going to be hidden from the world which means he's not going to be, at least publicly, hearing him, secretary-general him. he's not going to hit the lecture circuit or give interviews. we assume he will see people in private but the vatican won't issue news bulletins about those encounters so for all intense and purposes he's had his swan song on the public stage. that much is clear. what is less clear are two points: one, if he is going to continue to have any sort of behind-the-scenes role of the next pope. whether the next pope will seek his counsel. whether there will be conversation. and secondly how the role of a retired pope will play out in front of the broader court of opinion in the church. one of the fears about having a reti

earlier tonight, i spoke with the national director of s.n.a.p., also john allen, our senior vaticans through the process. the sistine chapel has been transformed for this conclave. what has to happen before tuesday? >> two things, logistical things that have to be taken care of for example, the chimney atop the sistine chapel has to be fixed that gives us the black smoke that means no pope has been elected or the white smoke which means we have a pope. there's still a bank of tables that have to be arranged inside the sistine chapel where cardinals have carefully assigned seattling and so on. all of that has to be done. in the meantime, the more important thing is there's political heavy lifting that has to go on in the next four days because at this stage, the consensus is there's no clear front runner for the papacy. the last thing these 115 cardinals who are going to cast votes want is to go into the cysteisistine chapel is to go i be deadlocked and have to stay there for three or four days. then they will be projecting images of deadlock and pural ses and in fighting. they have

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jeffrey brown talks to john allen in rome. >> me where againing now the focus shifts from style to substance and the question becomes how is this new tone going to be translated into the hard work of actually governing the church? there, of course, the challenges are considerably more steep >> ifill: we continue our series of stories about the middle east, margaret warner reports on the divide among the two leading palestinian factions, and its impact on the quest for peace. . >> it is really a divide over power. who's going to control what and what's going to be in a stronger position to win the palestinian people and who's going to have the narrative on its side? >> woodruff: and we examine a dramatic shift in public opinion with a majority of americans supporting same sex marriage. that's all ahead on tonight's newshour. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by:

live shot there abdel is ringing here in rome to come on only the big ring that means one thing john allen what does it mean it seems to be a most popular odyssey it may help or you have to listen i. got it black smoke no pope white smoke new pope all right we move on now although i must say i like the c.n.n. new purple and yellow graphic display real rational guys i want to read got that from but seriously what we really learn from the nonstop life feed the smoke and chimney and perch birds other than the centuries old ritual of unnecessary carbon emissions from the vatican this is a perfect example of the corporate media's fixation on sensationalism which is why this is also a perfect opportunity for me to highlight a couple of the most important stories that you likely won't be hearing on the cable news starting with the one hundred thirty detainees being held at guantanamo base camp six the majority of the prisoners began a hunger strike earlier this month to protest mistreatment by prison administrators of course r t is covering it in a recent interview sara flounders of the internati

let's bring in john allen now, senior vatican analyst.jor influence, politically, to use the words loosely. the last time we had a conclave, 2005, this mass, the homily is given by the dean of cardinals. that was joseph ratzinger. so, it was a major moment for him. what is the context this time with angelo sodano? >> well, slightly different, chris. i think a lot of people will tell you that the homily ratzinger gave in 2005 sort of solidified his status as the front-runner going into that conclave. now, this time, the dynamic is not the same. cardinal angelo sodano is already over 80. he's 85, so he's not going to be in the sistine chapel. for that reason alone, probably, he would be a radical long-shot to be elected pope. but in addition, he's sort of identified with the old guard in the vatican, and as we were talking earlier, there is kind of a strong antiestablishment mood among these cardinal electors that indicates many of them would like to see a change. and so, i don't think anyone believes that sodano is in a position to propel

we are joined by senior vatican analyst john allen. john, this is pretty cool. i mean, right?in an apartment and he's not going to move to the big palatial place. he's going to stay in a two-bedroom apartment, is that right? >> that is right. the first thing we should say this is not some grand scheme hatched by pr advisors about how to get the world to fall in love with you. this is the man's personality. when he was the arch bishop in argentina, he refused to live in the fairly lavish archbishop's residence and stayed in a spartan apartment around the corner. so spartan that the story goes he had to leave his stove on over the weekend to keep the place warm because the building turned off the heat over the weekend. but listen, there are a couple of strategic dimensions to this that are worth unpacking. one, pope francis wants to be a pope of the poor. and i think he understands that you can't preach concern for the poor to the world if you are perceived yourself as living in opulence. the other thing is that this decision to live at the hotel rather than the palace means he'

marine general john allen was being considered for the posted but he announced he is retiring to spend more time with his family. >> pope francis put his personal touch on easter celebrations washing the feet of 12 young prisoners who the vatican said weren't necessarily catholic. they have washed the feet of priests in the past. he spent the week with a mass where he blessed vats of oil that will be distributed. coming up on the grapevine, remember that story about a police officer giving boots to a home man? there san update. what do you do if you stuck, its small world ride at disney listening to this song? be right back. ♪ ♪ ♪ it's a small, small world shoot. now with the share everything plan from verizon, connect your camera, along with your smartphone and tablet. all your devices connected by one simple plan on the powerful network. record video. connect more. so you can do more. the share everything plan from verizon. add additional devices like the samsung galaxy camera for $5 monthly access. >>. >> chris: press picking from the political great many vine. vladimir putin bodygu