. >> earlier my colleague katrina perry spoke with john allen, a retired u.s.corps four star general and former commando of the nato international security assistance force about that report and ukraine's counter offensive. >> the bbc is reporting today a dozen former ukrainian captives say they were tortured while in captivity in southwestern russia in violations of international knew man tear -- humanitarian law. how should governments respond to that? >> first, no one is surprised at this. every dimension of the russian invasion of ukraine is in violation. the attack on infrastructure and here of course we see it again. systematic torture of ukrainian prisoners and the way to do this, the way to respond internationally is to condemn it universally and unanimously. and as necessary to levy sanctions against the russian military and the russian government. but this has to be condemned in the very loudest voices we can bring to bear and the systematic torture of prisoners of war and systematic torture of individuals out of combat, if you will, cannot be tolerat

going to turn against you and who is looking out for themselves. >> peter baker, barb mcquaide, john allen and charles coleman, thank you all so much. i want to bring into the conversation, and former communications director for jeb bush, former republican congressman david jolly and simone sanders townsend. and the host of simone on peacock on msnbc. might have to get your reaction to what we saw tonight. you have talked about something before, that trump is the king of projection. and sort of every alleged crime, and mishandling documents and stealing elections and messing with the machines, these are the crimes that he was saying that democrats have been doing, mainly hillary clinton. and the only person that we are seeing charged with the grand total of all of this. is the last president of the united states. >> yes, and the machines, as a latest example, i think it is'sp of information that has come out from fani willis that after the election was the republicans, under trump's direction. allegedly. who were trying to look into some of the machines in cobb e county and georgia. so i t

you and you're getting these new members provide a new starting point for bricks, cooperation, john allen, genuine. you in such as into a cooperation mechanism. the hans, going into the summit. there seemed to be some disagreement among bricks members about who should be admitted, but apparently that found some common ground to somebody. put the foot down. and how does this work? i think in the end of what has to say china going forward wanted it has been pushing for this for a long time in order to try and build a kind of content way to western influence. she didn't, thing has been talking about sol, numbers of countries ganging together and trying to set the rules for the rest of the world. he's talking about the g 7 industrialized countries, i think, and russia as well is interested in becoming the isolation caused by its attack on ukraine wills wides. so it to is interested in expanding this group and giving it more weight. and the can members that have come in, obviously a very diverse group for our countries like argentine that's a really require funding that are looking for new way

these new members provide a new starting point for bricks, cooperation, john allen, general new institute into our corporation mechanism. hans, going into the summit. those seem to be some disagreement among big members about who should be admitted, but apparently they've found some common ground to somebody. put the foot down and how did this, what i think in the end of what has to say china god, what did wanted it has been pushing for this for a.

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against you, and who's looking out for themselves. >> peter baker, greg bluestein, barb mcquade, john allen, thank you all so much. i want to bring into the conversation tim miller, former communications director for jeb bush, former republican congressman david jolly and simone sanders townsend, former chief spokesperson for former president harris and host of simone on peacock and msnbc. tim, i've got to get your reaction to what we saw tonight because you have talked about something before that trump is the king of projection and every alleged crime, mishandling documents, these are the crimes he was saying democrats have been doing, namely hillary clinton over the last six years. and the only person we are seeing charged in the grand total of all of this is the last president of the united states. >> after the election it was the maga republicans under trump's direction, allegedly, who were trying to look into some of the machines in cobb county in georgia. i think there's a long line of times where the accusations trump made were in fact confessions, things he was actually doing, whate

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earlier, i spoke with john allen, a retired us marine corps four—star general and former commander of nato international security assistance force, about that bbc reporting and ukraine's counter—offensive. generaljohn allen, thank you forjoining us. the bbc is reporting today that a dozen former ukrainian captives say they were subjected to torture while in custody at detention facilities in south—western russia, apparent violations of international humanitarian law. how should foreign governments respond? first, no—one is surprised at this. virtually every dimension of the russian invasion of ukraine has been accompanied by some violation of international military law. attacks on infrastructure, attacks on civilians and here again we see the systematic, frankly, in the systematic, frankly, the systematic torture of ukrainian prisoners. and the way to do this, the way to respond at an international level is to condemn it universally and unanimously and also, as necessary, to continue to levy sanctions against individuals within the russian military and, of course, against the russian

john allen, amna nawaz, renato mariotto, thank you so much for getting us started. coming up, it looks like donald trump has decided not to shop at the first republican debate. we are going to discuss what that means for the front runner, and the rest of the 2024 field with carlos curbelo, and victoria defrancesco. later, president biden heads to maui on monday. where over 100 people have died from devastating wildfires. we are going to talk to the red cross about what they have seen on the ground, and what people need most. the 11th hour, just getting underway on friday night. wow, you get to watch all your favorite stuff. it's to die for. and it's all right here. streaming was never this easy, you know. this is the way. you really went all out didn't you? um, it's called commitment. could you turn down the volume? here, you can try. get way more into what your into when you stream on the xfinity 10g network. >> after weeks of anticipation, donald trump has decided not to attend the first republican primary debate next week. instead, two sources familiar with the s

i want to break down the political impact with my colleague john allen, senior national politics reportergressman david jolly of florida. david, what's your reaction? >> look, it's certainly a grave moment, i think, as everyone knows. i'm more captivated, though, a little bit, stephanie, by this political question. because despite all the lowering that one into this indictment, i'm not sure the jack smith indictment and altman trial is going to bring the final closure to this. i think it is going to be a political question in the november 2024 election. and what i mean by that is the gravity is around donald trump being charged as a former president. the complexity to this though for the country's donald trump the credible candidate for the white house, who intends to run on a campaign of absolution and retribution, seeking to use the most basic democratic process of all, ironically, a free and fair election to be absolved of his most undemocratic behavior. and that is a tough moment for the nation to reconcile between our fragility and our resilience, the notion that a major party candid

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. >> nbc's john allen. thank you so much. >> thank you charles. >> joining me now is former federal prosecutor, my friend and colleague, msnbc legal analyst, paul butler. he is a professor at georgetown school of law. and the author of the book chokehold, policing blackmon. also with us is danny so fall, is another one of my treasured colleagues. he's a criminal defense attorney, cofounder of snowfall is -- also an msnbc legal analyst. super excited to talk to two of my favorite lawyers. let's get right into it. paul. the defense invoked this first amendment argument as part of its strategy yesterday. but that is not with this case is actually about. tell our viewers how the protective order actually is going to help ensure a fair trial going forward? >> so you're right charles. this case isn't about what donald trump said, it's about what he did. the judge is a former federal, actually state prosecutor. a state public defender. she was very fair to donald trump, like she is to every defendant. but she made

. >> john allen, barbara mcquade, thank you for the update.g up, we'll continue to monitor hillary's impact on the west coast. we'll also bring you any breaking updates as they happen. plus, the first republican debate is only three days away. how the candidates are recalibrating after donald trump announced that he will not be attending. and which candidates have the courage to call out the former president instead of defending them? stay with us. stay with us are you a new at&t customer looking to upgrade your phone? you're trapped! locked into your contract for three years... introducing the easy unlock. bring your at&t locked phone and t-mobile will pay it off and give you one of the latest 5g smart phones free! free your phone now at t-mobile! (dad) we got our subaru forester wilderness 5g smart phones free! to discover all of the places that make us feel something more. (vo) subaru is the national park foundation's largest corporate donor, helping expand access for all. my frequent heartburn had me taking antacid after antacid all day lo

john allen sosnovske. john, you realize that this conversation is being recorded?? >> yes, sir. >> he was cooperative. he was willing to speak with them and talk to them. >> we've shown you a polaroid photograph of taunja anne bennett. do you recognize this person? >> no, i do not, sir. >> do you recall, ever having seen this person before in your life? >> no, sir. >> did you have a conversation, with an individual in a lounge, j.b.'s, regarding the murder of taunja bennett? >> no, sir. >> do you have any knowledge of the death of taunja bennett? >> no, sir. >> john sosnovske was adamant that he had never met taunja bennett and that he definitely didn't kill taunja bennett. >> that of course was flying in the face of what pavlinac was saying. one of them is lying. >> anything else you'd like to say, sir? >> yes, if i may. i'm more than willing to help in any way that i can and clear myself and to help you people, because i have nothing to hide. >> okay. we'll conclude the interview. time now is 6:58 p.m. >> they took a hair sample from john sosnovske to try to matc

who will later talk white honestly about how he went on behalf of the dulles brothers, john foster dulles and allene head of the cia and the state department, john foster dulles who would represent corporations interested in overthrowing democracies. and overthrew mosaddegh. >> thank you so much. it is a pleasure to join you. delighted you find it astounding. it is entirely due to walter murch, the incredible cast of interviewees, along with david talbert and the backbone of commentary and knowledgeable information on the coup. in the absence of the british official role in this leading coup, norman darbyshire's interview and straight -- transcript stands in. imagine making a film about the most important history of your country and you find a man who was essentially the writer and director of this coup in his own words. revealing the most incredible amount of data, going rogue, for whatever, we can speculate why he went rogue, giving this incredible interview and then vanishing and for whatever reason "the end" producers -- the "end of empire" producers could not or did not use this interview in t

allen, start by telling us about john eastman who is a, he's not donald trump, but he is still a central figure in this trial. the constitutional lawyer spend a lot of the oval office in the run up to january of the 61 of the people, the told donald trump that mike paints, it'd be a sort of t when it came to congress of farming. the election results to actually over time that i'm one of the key terms of that, of course, was here in georgia. he's been released on $100000.00 on the after going through the process in the last couple of hours. also a score full who works is a billboards been himself at this time, right. he was involved in coffee county here in georgia and a breach of the election. deacon machines there. he has been released on bill of $10000.00 to have the 19 already being processed. but of course, the big face that everyone is waiting for it is donald trump, the noise onto the social on monday night that you would actually be here. comes thursday also in the last couple of hours, the 2 of the core queues. jeffery clark, who was the department of justice official working und

it is a deep material should all be reading in high school so brooke allen the obvious question is what was it teaching john locke to maximum security prisoners and what did you expect and what was he what the actual reality? well i expected that it might be a difficult sure but in fact, they were a lot easier to with and still are really than college students. they had had to make a big effort to get into the program had to apply to bennington college effectively and be deemed at a good enough level to get in and do their college level work not remedial and. so some of the students had were sort of like ordinary college students, quite young and untested. some of them were men in their fifties and sixties who'd been sitting the prison reading books for 30 years and were very very advanced and could do fine in any graduate program. so the classes tend to run the gamut between the sort of more basic college freshmen and people who could be in third year graduate program. and what was really great me and it continues to be is that they help each other. if there are some students who are very prepared, they go

allen film starring john cusack.s over broadway. >> don't don't have >> they don't they don't have our films. nick that's our taste in films. nick that's the bullets the thing. lawnmower man bullets over leprechaun over broadway, leprechaun two. >> this down. yeah. >> not that one. that one. >> not that one. not that one. okay, fine. okay next in the okay, fine. okay next up in the times, something times, this is something that keeps night. raccoon eyes. >> nick, this might be best >> nick, this might be the best headune >> nick, this might be the best headline done. headline we've ever done. actually, threaten to actually, raccoons threaten to overrun . i mean, it's overrun belgium. i mean, it's hard to improve upon that, really, isn't it? i don't know what with that. as a as what i can do with that. as a as a this in the times, right? >> so it's a reputable paper? yeah. it's not the front cover of the daily star. >> was a typo, but it's >> that was a typo, but it's belgian fighting invasion belgian is fighting an i

allen film starring john cusack.ets over broadway. >> don't don't have >> they don't they don't have our films. nick that's our taste in films. nick that's the bullets the thing. lawnmower man bullets over leprechaun over broadway, leprechaun two. >> this down. yeah. >> not that one. that one. >> not that one. not that one. okay, fine. okay next in the okay, fine. okay next up in the times, something times, this is something that keeps night. raccoon eyes. >> nick, this might be best >> nick, this might be the best headune >> nick, this might be the best headline done. headline we've ever done. actually, threaten to actually, raccoons threaten to overrun . i mean, it's overrun belgium. i mean, it's hard to improve upon that, really, isn't it? i don't know what with that. as a as what i can do with that. as a as a this in the times, right? >> so it's a reputable paper? yeah. it's not the front cover of the daily star. >> was a typo, but it's >> that was a typo, but it's belgian fighting invasion belgian is fighting an

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john. >> sandra: trey yingst, thank you. we'll get back to you as we have more details. joining us by phone, michael allen national security council under george w. bush. thank you for joining us. what we know so far, russian media saying the wagner head was on the plane that crashed in russia killing ten on board. it was a private plane, we are told an embraer aircraft, according to those reports. >> if it turns out to be true, we'll remember the early takes about the mutiny led by progozhin were true, takes were there were fissures in the putin team, and he wanted to remind them in an strident fashion he is in charge and he has done it again today in a typically dramatic style. >> john: john here, and if you make the phone call to your military to say he's flying to st. petersburg, take him out. why do you wait until now? why not do it right after the mutiny? >> it may be that there was information that putin needed to gather and begin to understand and that's why it took so long. for example, i think prigozhin knew he had a general, but some reports was that he wanted to recruit other generals to his s

a phone call to lieutenant governor john fetterman fetterman knew it was him, because it was not a pennsylvania number. [ laughter ] ex-trump organization cfo allenberg, recently testified that former president trump inflated the value of his trump tower apartment by $200 million, which he did by claiming it was a two bedroom. [ laughter ] [ laughter ] it's a joke about new york city real estate. i'll explain during the commercial [ laughter ] a t-rex dinosaur skull will go up for auction next month and is expected to sell for 20 million of nick cage's dollars [ laughter ] a professional archer in denmark recently broke a guinness world record by shooting seven arrows through a keyhole. great for him, terrible for his nosey neighbor [ laughter ] "is that a two bedroom?" [ laughter ] there we go. that's - [ laughter and applause phew and finally, organizers of the westminster kennel club dog show have announced that next year's event will be moved from madison square garden to billie jean king national tennis center in queens what could possibly go wrong [ laughter ] that was a monologue, everybody. we're off. [ cheers and applause we've got a gre

standby, as are nearly 40,000 electrical engineers, with major power cuts expected. john sudworth, bbc news, florida. jason allenre where we are, seven to 11 feet of additional water on top of what you see. in those spots where the hurricane comes directly ashore, they are saying potentially 15 feet or more. those are the biggest concerns right now for people here. it seems to be changing by the minute. it is expected to make landfall in the next two hours. you are watching it closely. yes, upgraded to a category three while we have been on air with wind speeds of 120 mph. we expect it to be upgraded further to a category four, which means wind speeds of 130 mph with gusts as much as 161 miles per hour. these hurricanes can also lead to tornadoes, so devastating, huge, catastrophic hurricane. what we have is a mixture of sunshine and scattered showers. they are with us in parts of the north and west. a brighter start with sunshine in central and eastern areas. as we go through the day, more fairweather cloud will produce showers. some could be heavy across east anglia, where we could hear thunder. temperatures a

john conley the texas mayor new york city mayor robert waggoner. wagoner.here's the robert kennef course the hoover family and other dignitaries attended the funeral. the family group were mr. hoover's' two sons of herbert junior allennd margaret and their six hegrandchildren. the reverent terence j finley the director of saint bartholomew's and a personal front of the hoover family conducted the funeral service. saint bartholomew's reopen to the public at 5:00 p.m. through 9:00 p.m. so thehe people lined up around the block at the church, which was located at 51st and park avenue in new york city waiting to view his flag covered casket. between the 21st and 22nd some 22000 people paid their respects at saint bartholomew's church. the church was open from 9:00 a.m. until 3:00 p.m. on the 22nd. and then three -- 5:00 p.m. and then 9:00 p.m. october 22 the family and friends arrived at the church. the u.s. militaryxt academy van along the company of cadets from west point were on hand. hundreds of people watch from across thehe street. joint service honor core lined the steps but the top of the steps leading from the church on park avenue the body barriers waiting will the band played. when the band began the ham lord

allen here, senior national politics reporter, and great friend of mine, from nbc. and reed galen, cofounder of the lincoln project. he has worked on a number of gop campaigns, including john mccain, arnold schwarzenegger, and george w. bush. reed, here is my question. all republicans basically trapped with donald trump at this point? he is never going to drop out of the race. he is running for his life, for his freedom. and, at the very least, if he wasn't running, he is never going to tell his supporters to back anyone but him. so, either he has to be the nominee, or he is going to spoil it for them. >> i think you hit the nail on the head, they made a deal with the devil, as i think i might have even said on your show before. and now they are stuck with him. as you said, no one can beat him, probably, in a primary election. if someone, by some miracle, stephanie ruhle, were to, he would tell his 30%, 35% of the republican base nationally, these people are -- you know, they are out to get me. they are part of the deep state. whatever it is. don't vote for any of them. you vote for me or you just stay home. and what happens? republicans lose more and more and more. they h

allen, thank you. >>> in the bay area of sonoma county, getting a little bit of rain. you might be wondering what that bit of rain means for all those grapes. we sent johnter: there is no doubt about it. this has been an unusual summer topped off by the first tropical storm in more than 80 years. through it all, the grapevines live on. they've seen it all before. the heavy overcast was just enough to take the edge off predicted 90-degree weather in st. helena. visitors to the winery didn't need the shade trees to stay cool. even this late in the summer. >> we have a few days that are incredibly hot. and then today, i'm thinking this is maybe a part of hurricane hilary from san diego. >> reporter: it's not a part of the storm front. that's much further east. but it could be influencing how gray and humid it is in august. light rain fell briefly. >> i actually had a few rain drops on my drive in this morning. >> reporter: the director of wine making at visa. he says from the start it looked like the storm would miss that region. but in farming, you just never know. >> we look at the weather five times a day. it's always a consideration. >> reporter: as it

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we have mike allen, who is an award-winning historian with the national park service who has dedicated so many years to these issues in our community. i thank them so much for joining us. john? thank you. john: thank you, brian. good evening, everybody. as a former ypd'er, i am happy to be here at morris brown community church, even with a little bit of feedback, and it will be a pleasure to lead you alter a conversation today where we talk about public history, how we were a member the past, which passed we choose to remember, and what choices we make in doing so. i am going to allow my colleagues appear on the panel to introduce themselves in one way by responding to probably the easiest question you will get today, which is, how do you enter this conversation about public history in the low country and in south carolina? where are you as you enter this conversation? dr. edgar? dr. edgar: as of right now or over the past 40 years, it has been an evolving process, both personally, with communities and certainly with organizations. things and rather dramatically -- things have changed and rather dramatically. my late friend charles joiner, a great historian, his quotation,

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have mike allen who is an award-winning historian with the national park service who has dedicated so many years to these very issues in our community, and i thank them so much for joining us. john. thank you. >> thanks, brian. good evening,ng everybody. >> good evening. >> as a former friend what i can tell you i'm very happy to be at morris brown ame church, even with the little bit of feedback. and it's going to be a pleasure to lead you all through a conversation today will will be talked about a book history, how we remember the past which passed we choose remember and what choice do we make in doing so. evan going to allow my colleagues up here on the pedal to introduce themselves in one way by responding to probably the easiest question you get today, which is, how do you enter this conversation about public history in the low country and in south carolina? where are you as you enter this conversation? dr. edgar. >> as of right now i've tried to do with it over the past 40 years, it's been an evolving process both personally and obviously with communities and certainly with historical organizations as they make what we talked about -- south, historical society, things hav