today i'm talking with john alterman, the director of the middle east program at the center for strategic and international studies. john, thank you so much for joining us today. thank you. me a start out. you were a very powerful, interesting article. i want to have everyone go look at it. it's on the csr. yes, website called is real, could lose. the implication is, how mosque goodwin so tell us how. how mosque goodwin, mike moss is goal is not to defeat israel on the battlefield in any near term from us. his goal is to arrest israel's integration in the world. israel's integration into the middle east to make israel more isolated to continue to put is really is under pressure to, to over the long term. create a situation where palestinians are united around from us, the palestinian authority collapses and from us can bring regional support other support to eventually conquered recently what they did on october 7 was much more successful than ever thought. but i think we have to consider just how long the high from that is likely to last. egypt broke through the the supposedly impregnabl

john alterman, thank you. really great to talk to you.difficult but our correspondent remains there. he has this update. today israel opened the road, the access in and out of gaza for the first time since the start of the ground operation. very few people manage to get out of gaza because the main road was damaged and access was almost impossible. but in gaza city people have started to flee the heavy fighting around the city as the israeli ground operation expanded from three different directions. the tanks were advancing near gaza city itself. tonight again the israeli air strikes were intensified around shifa hospital where many on the roof of the building were targeted from the air. we feel that israel is pushing the civilian population, they are taking the hospital as shelter to feed this place they bombed tonight the largest bakery in the place that is feeding most of the bread to the neighbourhood near the shifa hospital. also in the north of the gaza strip, fighting was intensified near the coastal road where hamas have said they