here is john archibald again. quote, trey glenn, the trump-appointed epa director has more ties to that poop train and its dumping ground than the railroad track it ran on. quote, all the charmin in the world can't wipe it away. ain't enough bubbles in the world to clean the stain. as of tonight, trey glenn still serves in the trump administration as the head of the epa for the whole southeastern united states. it's hard to believe that will stay the case, however, because today trey glenn was indicted for multiple state crimes related to his time so ably administering environmental issues in his home state of alabama. we've been -- i got to tell you, we've been trying to get ahold of the charging documents from his indictment in alabama today. it's been a little tricky to get ahold of them, but it appears he has been basically charged with corruption charges, akin to bribery and conspiracy. so the administrator, the head of the largest region in the country for the epa is now under criminal indictment in alabama.

imagine, if you will, that john dean was cooperating with archibald cox was in a joint defense agreement with richard nixon. this doesn't happen. that would be astonishment if you were the prosecutor. you would not be happy about it. >> it's a key point. we are in this drama that paid out and we are getting closer to the end, but maybe we are not. appreciate your insights. i want to read this from the filing from bob mueller. they will file a detailed sentencing with the probation department in advance of sentencing that sets forth the nature of the crimes and lies, including those after signing the plea agreement here in. the special counsel is saying paul manafort after saying he would lie and lie and lie and we are going to prove it. >> repeatedly lying. you don't get a cooperation agreement and you lie to prosecutors. this is special counsel. there are career people on this team. there are veterans on this team. there are fbi agents that spent dozens of years working these cases. you don't go into a room and think you can get away with lying. especially before the special counsel whi

archibald cox. let's bring in someone who knows a little more about watergate than i do, john dean, the former white house counsel for president nixon. john, what's your reaction to this move, president trump asking attorney general jeff sessions for his resignation today? >> well, unlike the saturday night massacre where nixon relieved special prosecutor cox, that was sort of a culmination of disregard for the president's direction as to not go after his tapes. here i think this seems to be planned like a murder. i say that given the fact that the president was asked a question in the press conference this morning, he brushed it off, said we'll deal with it later and he's clearly been thinking about it and later meant he's not necessarily going to fire mueller, he's going to undercut him by the people around him. >> do you see this as part of an attempt to undermine the mueller investigation? obviously matthew whitaker, who is now the acting attorney general, has been very up front and honest about his belief that attorney general sessions, now former attorney general sessions, could be replaced, s