john b. taylorwho you all know, probably, and he's a professor at stanford. and he has, he has -- a monetary economist and very, very well respected. i've talked to him at length about this subject, and he a agrees, at least he agreed with me, that the bubble was initially begun by the government's housing policies. that they create -- the housing policies created the huge growth in housing values, housing prices up through 2003. it was between 2003 and five, he argues, that the fed's activities did accelerate the bubble that was already created. so i think i'm going to rest in the shadow of john b. taylor here and say that i don't have any better opinion than that. i do think that what happened was that the bubble was begun by housing policy, created much more demand for housing. it, the bubble grew to a very large size by 2003. john b. taylor then picks up at that point and argues that that's when the acceleration occurred as a result of the fed's lower interest rates. um, i think i'll stick with