neil: judy love more, john baena or barack obama? >> humans. i love humans. i think so.t is the part that is, perhaps the most challenging. of very severe example. it is natural and perhaps even corrupt. they are not human. but perhaps it is even higher of us to say that they are. the depths of our own potential bad qualities and monstrous behavior and try to return to that state of love. it is not easy. just here today from all kinds of thoughts. i tried to think higher than that. encourage each other. it. neil: i live in pettiness. but you are not vindictive at all played a lot of people of very tough shell. >> i understand that. ultimately it does not feel as good. neil: you are not come again, you don't fit any could be quicker definition of as entertainer. just the labor your persona. >> i decided that feeling happy was more important to me than anything else. not in a shallow way but in no way that made me glad to be alive. worth fighting for whatever i cared about. neil: would you care the most about? >> joy. and i don't think that if we have that then everything