they also need a partner at the end of the day and they need john baner to have enough strength, supportt at the table as the conversation begins between what the senate passes ultimately, which will be the rebill or modification of john boehner's bill. and they need -- the white house needs john boehner to be part of the conversation. they need it to go back to the house and they need to drive it through and they're going to need john boehner to be a part of it. ali, there are going to be big winners this weekend. you know why that are, right? >> the winners? >> yeah. this weekend. >> who are the winners this weekend? >> the pizza delivery guys on capitol hill. it's going to be a long weekend. these guys are going to be hunkered down, and, of course, we'll be there watching. >> we'll be ordering some of that pizza too. we'll speak with you over the weekend a lot. sam fiest is our washington bureau chief. >>> let's go to alexandra steel. it. >> could be more a blessing than a kufrt. tropical storm don, the first to make u.s. landfall. it will do so overnight tonight. you can see it's pic

certainly it is not because john baner is scared of his caucus. >> well, that is part of the equation. it is not just the president. look, jackie's point was exactly the right one. the president and the speaker can make a deal. in fact, it would be easy for them to make a deal. they both want a deal. they want a deal of similar size. they want to avoid a default. the question is how do you get 218 votes in the house and 06 votes in the senate? what that means is you have to get a large chunk of republicans in the house, some democrats, a large chunk of democrats in the senate and some republicans. it is not easy to do. i was on the phone last night at 1:00 in the morning with a republican member of congress, veteran, conservative, somebody who has served for a while who wants to see a deal get done, and we were talking about the back and forth that jackie mentioned yesterday when she said democrats were objecting to the terms they understood the president to be negotiating with speaker boehner, and he said, yeah, john boehner could put forward a plan in the house of representatives th

i trust john baner is negotiate a fair and good deal. he is yet to come back with a deal he thinks is appropriate. i do agree. he is a reasonable guy. a master negotiators, an excellent legislator. so let's give limb a clans to do his job. but again, he will be the first to tell you. he never voted for a tax increase. he agrees this is a spending problem and entitlement reform problem. those are the areas we ought to focus on. nobody thinks you ought to raise taxes in the middle after down economy and that's what you've got. >> nobody who is extending tax cuts is raising taxes is lowering taxes. >> are the tea partiers reasonable? are they unreasonable? and will some of the senior members of the party and some who have been there a while like you, stand up and defend a compromise here? >> i'll wait and see what the deal is when it comes back. but i've been supportive of the speaker. i think he will bring us back a good deal. and if he does, i will certainly be supporting it. in terms of those tea party members. they actually are getting

william dailey said the current it ration of a debt deal put forward by house republican speaker john banerwould mean revisiting the debt ceiling next year. that's a nonstarter for the president and his men who want to get past the 2012 elections without another battle over this issue. >> the debt ceiling must be extended, not just short term. it must be into 2013. senator mcconnell, speaker boehner, senator reid, congresswoman nancy pelosi have all said the debt ceiling will be extended. but it must be extended in a way that gives certainty to the economy through '13 and not some short-term gimmick where we're right back in this fix in six or eight months. >> senator tom coburn, a member of the gang of six and a friend of president obama's, said he believes a short-term deal is unavoidable to fore stall what the president has predicted would be economic armageddon. >> i understand why they're saying they won't sign a short term, but i think they won't have any choice and i think that's the only answer right now. >> as an alternative, though likely a remote one, house speaker john boehner s

but also you had speaker john baner in the private meeting that he and president obama had on sunday at the white house that the white house won't confirm but we all know it did happen. so there does seem to be some maneuvering going on here. >> hunt: lori, again, senator crapo and senator warner i think have said they might do something in the nt couple days and they are probably close deite thorny issues. but as far as the other... the boehner, obama, biden talks, et cetera, do you get the sense there's a consensus on at least half of what needs to be done? >> there's consensus on the ckets of things that need to be involved but the message we were getting o of the biden talks is while the people at the talks felt they were moving forward there were people outside the talks who were not seeing this thing getting where it needed to go. republicans in particular thought the administration was not giving enough on discretionary cu up front which is where they count the most if you... you've got to start cutting the budget in 2012 and if if you put the cuts off until the out years repu

you can see here john baner is trying to make the case why he now has to change the focus and why therea shift of focus and now he said basically they abandoned the talks completely and now it's up to the house and the senate up here on the hill. >> we will see what the president has to say. he is gating ready to walk out within the next few seconds in fact. we will see if he answers reporters's questions no doubt the president deeply disappointed that the speaker of the house according to kate baldwin, now suspending t negotiations to come up with a modest or large scale agreement to allow the united states to go forward to raise the debt ceiling. they will make a statement momentarily. this is a dramatic moment. let's listen. >> good evening, everybody. i wanted to give you an update on the debt ceiling. i got a call about a half hour ago from speaker boehner who indicated he was going to be walking away from the negotiations that we have been engaged in here at the white house for a big deficit reduction and debt reduction package. i thought it would be useful for me to just give you

the case for skeptical fashions that getting nations fiscal house is in their best interest and john baner remains to a plan and he did not want to become speaker to do small things. there's a related story on how this impacts the states including here in maryland. the debt crisis would hurt maryland and the loss of a steady paycheck is becoming a routine for frank silver stein. who is a union steward for the american fedication of government employees. he's said that the pitch battle over to whether race the 14 trillion dollar debt ceiling for this year has put federal workers on edge whether or not they'll have a job in the couple of weeks. here's more from kristen gregoire. the chair on how all of this impacting states around the nation. guest: the biggest concern is longer this is delayed and the more in action that we see happening out of washington d.c., the more concern that causes in our own economies and our states. i'm a sales tax state so consumer confidence and business confidence is key to my economy so. you can imagine my consumer confidence is down i'm not getting revenue an

. >> reporter: the house prepares to vote on speaker john boehner's plan as another battle is underway between baner and his own house conservatives. >> we advocated much more. we advocated much more in the budget plan. so we think there are rill problems with this plan. >> reporter: jim jordan leads a key voting bloc of house conservatives. many have signed a pledge, unless it comes with much more dramatic deficit-cutting measures. now, with the conservatives unhappy and if the democrats remain united against boehner's plan, his margin of error is thin. there are 240 house republicans. it will take 217 votes to pass the bill. that means boehner can not lose more than 23 of his own party to succeed. and tuesday, congressman jordan said boehner did not have the votes. >> i do think that we're going to have some work to do to get it passed but i think we can do it. >> boehner says he plans to rewrite that bill and a vote previously set for tomorrow has been postponed. >>> a warming trend begins tomorrow and it's going to go all the way into the weekend. i'll let you know how warm it's going to get, co