he was once calling himself john baron. he next called himself john miller. all of this is rather ridiculous. but the minute the press asks a question about the past, the candidates turn it into a debate about how unfair the news media might be. >> well, let me put that to you, allister, it obviously is entertaining. all the networks, which have broadcast and hosted the republican debates so far have seen massive ratings bonanza. i mean massive, off the scales, really. how is that viewed from here, certainly in terms of, let's say, a british election debate? particularly at a time when there is this massive refugee crisis, where there's an ongoing war in syria, where there are major challenges from both president putin of russia and indeed challenges from china. and yet they seem to be skimming over that. >> when you're a politician in a campaign as long and as tough as the presidential campaign, you have to have your strategy worked out, you have to have your answers worked out in these big policy issues that you can express very concisely and very quickly.

the agreement that was thrashed out between john and the barons was what he called magna carta. that there was some original magna carta, the image of john signing it is false because there was no so far as we know single original document, certainly nothing was ever signed. was an agreement granted in terms by john and was written up into identical -- individually sealed and. four of those from 1215, two in british library, one belongs to lincoln cathedral, the agreement that all of these contained was the product of several weeks of hard negotiating mediated by the archbishop of langdon. john was reconciled with the church two years before magna carta because the church is allowed to sponsor mass invasion by the king of france and lyndon came back to england and the way john treated him is remarkable how the archbishop managed for negotiations, wasn't really extraordinarily man, we don't often think when we talk about magna carta but we should, a great theologian, and thought deeply about the nature of kinship, the responsibility of a prince, when a prince became a tyrant, had

baron. that put durst near a known burial ground right after cathy vanished. i sent johnn there in 2002 to meet up with a legendary local tracker and survivalist. >> hi, i'm tom brown. i'm known as the tracker. i have been in tracking for 54 years of my life. i've solved over 600 tracking cases. i've been shot three times. stabbed four times. missing teeth and the holy grail for my tracking career is to find durst's body right here. >> hey! >> john and tom haven't seen each other in almost 15 years. >> good the see you, dude. >> how are you? >> another piece of the puzzle that led us down to the pine barren came from something gilberti found in 1982. >> every sunday night for about six months i collected bob durst's garbage from the south salem home and photographed and cataloged everything i found and i got a slip of paper. >> a slip of paper with a strange list. back in 2002, the first thing john did was to show it to tom brown. >> well, he looked at it and says i know where we're going. >> we are talking about the list they found was robert's handwriting and says shove

john baron. >> regional powers and allies believe that in the absence of a realistic long-term strategy and proper local knowledge, we risk repeating the errors we made in our interventions in iraq, afghanistan post-2006, in libya. key questions remain unanswered. how best to combat a sec terrorism and extremism and the ideology that all extremist groups feed off go natchez trace compile best to disrupt the business those with and talk about this with the car today is over a year now. there has been no effect. and also i'm asking to look again at his feet of 70,000 free syrian army. we have been told directly the recent contact although they were very few moderates remain on either side of the civil war. so prime minister can ask him without these answers, airstrikes will only reinforce the west's failure in the region generally at a time when already that are too many aircraft chasing too few targets. >> i believe what there is too many others too many terrorists who are threatening our country and that should be -- i would agree that we have to combat the ideology and that is a very b

. >> john o'donnell and i took a trip down to the pine barons in southern new jersey.rons? because it's a dense, million acre forest. because a great place to bury a body. mobsters did it all the time. when i first reopened kathleen durst's case, we began piecing together a puzzle and the pine barons fit right in. melissa: that is clip from the fox news special airing, "robert durst & my quest for justice." hosted by judge gin mean pirro. what happened to kathleen mccormick durst, disappeared in 1982. she was married to that guy there, robert durst, wealthy heir of a new york real estate empire. judge pirro, never waivered, that durst, who led a bizarre life, killed his 29-year-old life. her investigation is focus of her new book, she killed them all. that was famous line from the hbo special. i'm addicted to this case. it is so fascinating, three cases they followed. the three people think he killed. your case was the first but also the hardest because there was no body. you always believed it was in the pine barons, where you went back and what we showed there. tell

john d. rockefeller jr. made a flippant comment once, a railroad baron, actually a canadian made a comment. but aside from that, the businessmen aren't using darwin as justification for anything. and, shockingly as irwin wiley pointed out, most frequently they promote the bible to justify their behavior. you move on to foreign policy. war withs had existed since ever. [laughter] nobody needed to appeal to darwinism to justify our warfare. and, in fact, two of the names most frequently associated with social darwinism -- the british philosopher herbert spencer and the american sociologist william grant sumner -- opposed imperialism, especially the war that broke out when this was supposedly at its, in its heydey was the spanish-american war. they opposed it. very little, if any, illusions to darwin. racism is supposed to have gotten a big boost from darwinism. it didn't. there's been a recent study, fairly recent by a historian in kansas, jeffrey moran, the first one to look at carefully, well, one of the first two to look carefully at african-american attitudes. he found no references to da

barone on the panel. we're delighted to be joined by john fortier, and eppc's senior fellow henry ol'en you're here. >> i snuck in. >> good. after my introduction i will pose a question to each of the panelists they will have five minutes for initial remarks. we'll try to start a lightning round where any of them can answer any questions. last but not least we'll turn to your questions. let me say a few words about the polls to begin. like all of you i read them but i think we should treat what we're seeing now with substantial skepticism. here's why. according to political sign it, robert erickson, polls conducted even 300 days before an election have virtually no predictive value. that is one of many reasons polls should not be used as standard for debate participation. they're predictive power comes much later in the campaign, usually around 100 day mark. another reason for caution at this stage of the campaign is that polls can not simulate the electorate because of arcane rules for awarding delegates each party has. most important finding in the new "quinnepiac poll" among republicans not that trump