john battelle, great to have you. chief creative officer and founder of newco. >> malware west develop to steal millions of dollars but how did this guy stay under the radar? the future of cyber seeds next on "bloomberg west." ♪ >> welcome back to "bloomberg west." federal agents have busted a hacking network that may have cost more than $100 million in losses in the u.s. the network is known as game over bot net. the network spread malware which hackers use to control files and demand a ransom from consumers. the justice department has charged a 30 year old russian as the mastermind. he remains at large. it raises the issue, how do hackers stay under the radar for so long and what does it tell us about other hacking groups that could be hiding? david walt joins us right now. fire eye in the cyber security business. you found the target hack, infamously. has the target changed a lot in the last year? it has. >> if you look at the last couple of years, the types of attackers out there, much like the zoos take down, we