. >> ifill: gene sperling, john bidgeland, republicans and democrats sitting next to each other talkingand to fix. go one of the things in the "moneyball for government," you describe as playing ball in a sandlot, everybody gets a trophy, nobody keeping score. how is government policy like that? >> remarkably. less than one dollar out of a hundred of federal domestic spending is backed by most basic evidence. government managers across federal government, only 37% tell us they have significant evaluations over the last five years for their programs. so government is basically flying blind when it comes to government spending and gene and i and a bipartisan group of domestic, economic and budget policy advisors across three administrations want to bring a culture of evidence-based policy making to our federal departments and agencies in the congress. >> ifill: this reminds me of covering the clinton administration of which you were a part and al gore was tags binged with reinventing government which seems like a big thing to bite off and now we're calling to reinvent government again, ar