so what makes the for john biles when you've made a considerable impact in your views and in this book, in particular, no uncontroversial. some people say it's not the way attitude, but many people support what you're saying, and it makes people think so. so what makes for, for john boswell keep doing what i'm doing? i'm, i'm trying to wider the conversation to, to the non elite people in the inner cities, the safe can have more support for them. not can they have a voice, rather than just the elite. so i'll continue to do that. and at the other room said of the field to play the, the i used to, to try to like politics as john barnes, natalie political aspirations whatsoever. none whatsoever because there's no political solution to the that to discrimination. no political solution whatsoever . john barnes, thank you so much for joining me in the alexandria. if al gore, with intent on telling the world to buy the inconvenience is there climate change? john binds is telling the uncomfortable facts about racism. the binds argument is that much of the anti racist rhetoric is superficial, t