these files until very late in the process of putting our book together -- he writes about the john birchsociety and he says i won't denounce the organization because i believe that all people and organizations have the right to have their viewpoint heard as long as they don't ing fringe on the rights of others -- infringe on the rights of others. that was a big risk for him to write that, to say it, to take that position, and he did. it showed early on a political inthstinct before he was elected governor of not letting preliminary expediency dominate principle. we see it again in the mid-1980's as president during the trip to germany in which he visited both the jewish concentration camp and the bitburg german military sem terry. there was a lot of opposition to him going to bitburg but he said, no, it's the right thing to go there and stand and say that the holocaust should not happen again and i'll do that at both the german military cemetery and the concentration camp because i think many of the german soldiers were also victims of the system. >> you asked a fascinating question. one

kennedy faced from the john birch society, bill clinton with the vince foster rumors.evolved to the point where you have joe wilson interrupting, this reporter doing it today, but it stems from the same sort of sentiment that a president sort of from the left side, a president from the democratic party in the eyes of many people on the right is illegitimate from the beginning. >> even if he wins the election? joe -- >> i just want to make one quick point. that is true it's evolved from bill clinton and vince foster rumors to openly challenging a president at an event where there's a lot of decorum, but it's gotten more acceptable. i think it's largely because this president does not look like the others. i think that's something that could be discounted, even though the right has been at this a long time. bill clinton was never openly confronted. it was alls within certain strictures. he never got challenged openly at a joint session of congress. >> i would say this kind of press corps didn't exist when bill clinton exist. he was apparently there on a one-day blogger p

for example, there is a charge that you tend to close to the john birch society in the early 1960s.s a spurious charge, but it kept coming up. eisenhower had script press conferences. we should find someone to assess question american should answer it this way. he goes through several letters and he is doing it while nixon is trying to seek the gop nomination. he is a very interesting prospect at eisenhower secretly hoping reagan and 66, 67, 68 pamela fagan is contesting contesting for the gop nomination are used to be ex-vice president. >> and his daughters about to start dating and will marry the full classic familial kaslow. >> can you talk about this picture because you understood it better? this is the club picnic. >> you talk about this picture because the thing that amazes us is how many of these relationships go back long, long, long before anyone is in politics. >> this is the bohemian grove and the summer of 1967, 68-acre. richard nixon on the left would meet herbert hoover that sanger nixon was giving a big speech there about hoover. but when he really had to do is meet w

they are like, for example, there was a charge that he'd been too close to the john birch society in the early 1960's and it was a spurious charge but it kept coming up. eisenhower script, his hold press conferences for reagan to have. reagan should answer this way and he goes through several different iterations of this through several letters and he's doing it wild nixon is trying to seek the gop nomination so you have a very interesting prospect of eisenhower secretly helping reagan and 66, 67 and 68 while reagan is contesting for the gop nomination and again it's richard nixon who used to be ike's vice president. >> and his daughter is about to start dating" mary ike's grandson so you have the full -- >> talk about this picture because you understand it better. >> this is the bohemian grove. this is called the club picnic. you talk about this picture because the thing that amazes us about what happened is how many of these relationships go back long long before anyone is in politics. [inaudible] we were struck by that too. this is bahamian grove in the summer of 1967, 68 i guess.

my lord, i thought that the john birch claim that dwight eisenhower was a communist or socialist was discredited. the partnership we had with the highway trust fund and investing in america's future is something that is the opposite of socialism. it is a public heist private partnership that has involved people in all levels of government and things that made a difference. we are looking -- i had a meeting today with 80 stake holders primarily from the private sector, including environmentalists, unions, businesses and trade associations who are perplexed at the prospect that this house would go on record to shut down all new investment for the next year and further undercut the opportunity of moving a bipartisan senate bill to at least get us to construction cycle and move forward. i agree that we need to be concerned about a debt burden and independent analysis of why we have had an exploding debt, includes unfunded tax cuts. remember, mr. defazio and i served here when the big fear was that we weren't going to pay off all government debt. what would the insurance companies do? wha

these are torture cases, people who claim to be tortured under john birch.by the time of defunding which'll put us out of business at the end of this month, we had completed review of only nine of about 110 applications that we'd received, and of those we had found that five, we believed, had credible claims that they were, in fact, tortured. it's not an innocence commission. we're not saying -- you can torture a guilty person, obviously. we're not making a judgment about guilt or innocence, only a judgment about whether or not this claim of torture is credible and referring it back to the supreme court for further -- to the illinois court system for further action. as i said, we've referred five cases and rejected four. the other 100 will have no recourse at this point with this commission out of business. this was, essentially, the court of last resort, and it has now been abolished. we're going to try another tact, we're going to try to bring a blanket conviction for postconviction relief on behalf of all people who we believe meet the criteria to see if