this and that being the founding meeting of the john birch society and fred coke is literally in thet the birth of this organization and goes on to play a very prominent role within it. he becomes the national council member in wichita, kansas, that becomes a real hotbed, where the coke family lives becomes a hotbed of society organizing. i was speaking with eugene earlier mentioned as a schoolteacher in texas, the birch society really targeted her for some things that are said at that time. that brought memories about researching a book in taking place in wichita at this time. there were many stories about students being told to allegedly being told to spy on their teachers for any hint of subversion. i remember as i was doing the book i talk to one former wichita schoolteacher who recall she'd handed up as unicef collection boxes to the students for hollowing in this became a huge source of controversy because of course the society was completely against the united nations and their motto at that time was u.s. out now in reference to the united nations. so charles koch who is the s