reaction to john boehner's announcement was swift. any cases, it was completely predictable, especially among 2016ers. kasich andd john chris christie complimen the speaker. at the values voter summit in washington, marco rubio got this reaction when he broke john boehner news. fewtor rubio: just a minutes ago speaker john boehner announced that he would be resigning. [cheers] >> a little bit jarring. meanwhile, someone who may look familiar to. went ahead and pinned down the leader of the free world -- >> what is a reaction to house speaker john boehner's decision to resign? president obama: something i think that john understood, although it was challenging at times to bring his caucus along, that we can have differences on issues but that does not mean you shut down the government. that does not mean you risk the full faith and credit of the united states. a potentialvite financial crisis. >> that was, of course, margaret with the question. one of your patented 17 part questions to the present. less likely.oking alicia bright's comi

john boehner: way less. >> less than six? john boehner: probably.t going to be here forever. let me put it this way, i told my staff about five years ago, if i'm 70 years old and still walking around here, somebody just shoot me. i'm not going to be somebody who dies in the saddle. phil: nobody from team john boehner will have to commit violence. that was from mark halperin's conversation with john boehner about the speaker's future. our guest is doug heye who joins us from harvard. you can follow him on twitter. doug -- doug: that is a fake account. that is not my account. twitter needs to verify my actual account. [laughter] thank you for that. phil: we will work on that. i want to get into a lot of legacy stuff with john boehner. you were in the room, the most intense meeting during your time on the hill. first, i want you to look at what is going to happen over the next 30 days. you know this conference very well. at the start of november, who is the speaker and who is the leader and who is the majority whip as it stands now? doug: that of a who

face knew it was a very moving speech for john boehner. but i think we'll see ongoing polarization going forward. as the party tries to figure out who it is going to be going forward. >> the public already thinks of congress as stuck in gridlock and not able to address the nation's problems. it would seem that with an establishment figure like john boehner leaving, that intractable difference between the democrats and republicans would only get even deeper. >> i think you are right. i go back to the night of the 2014 midterm election when republicans were making the case that if they were able to take over congress as a whole, there would be a difference in terms of the tone and tenor, we would see a great progress going forward, and we have seen anything but that happen, and so i think, unfortunately with boehner's departure, it's going to be even more on people's agenda -- it's going to be even more clear going forward, that this is a very fractured republican party. they hold a huge majority in the house, and they are not going to be ab

it never had a chance. >> reporter: john boehner saying on c.b.s.face the nation", that without a presidency or a super majority in the senate. the g.o.p. can't constitute change. >> our founders wanted a parliamentary system where if you won the majority, you got to do what you wanted. they want a long, slow process, so change comes slowly, obviously too slowly for some. >> reporter: too slowly for republicans like those at this weekend value voters summit, erupting in cheers at the new that is john boehner is stepping down. >> speaker john boehner announced that he'll we resigning. [ cheers ] >> reporter: the g.o.p.'s right flank is willing to push to shut down the government to stop funding for planned parenthood. don't expect that to happen since speaker john boehner no longer has to listen to them. instead, they plan to pass a short-term spending bill in the case of kicking the can down the road in december. it will fall to a new house speaker to navigate. the top candidate is kevin mccarthy. he served five terms, never held a chairman's gavel,

from the sort of hard right members of that republican caucus, that hostility was specific to john boehnerthat going to be the inheritance of whoever comes after him and it's going to be a similarly difficult job? >> i think it's more of the latter. boehner has wide respect throughout the conference. he has a good rapport even with his critics. he doesn't have many enemies on a personal level. i think if, say, majority leader mccarthy inherits the speaker's position, he wins the speaker gavel, he's going to be dealing with the same group of 30 or 40 hard-liners who are unhappy with any kind of impasse, any kind of deal legislatively that doesn't really involve an extended fight with president obama. i think one of the reasons boehner decided today to do this, he saw a government shutdown on the horizon over planned parenthood. i knew if he didn't endure a shutdown the right flank would have this motion to vacate the chair and that would put the whole house gop up to a vote on boehner's speakership. and he knew that would be a difficult time for him politically forkts whole conference, and

house speaker john boehner's surprising resignation. boehner held that news conference announcing that after more than four years in that role, 24 years in congress, he is leaving. boehner said it's been an honor to serve. that decision was not about him and this the turmoil over the leadership would do quote, irreparable damage to the institution. he would not speculate on who may be the next speaker. >> my plan was to step down at the end of last year. i decided in november of 2010 that when i was elected speaker that serving two terms would have been plenty. i decided you know, today's the day i'm going to do this. as simple as that. that's the code i've always lived by. if you do the right things for the right reasons -- listen, i'm not going to be here to vote on the next speaker but that's up to the members. but having said that, i think kevin mccarthy would make an excellent speaker. >> and at a news conference moments ago at the white house, president obama called speaker boehner a good man. >> it took me by surprise and i took t

regarding john boehner.ear now that we're going to get someone obviously much more conservative, like kvetch mccarthy who is a tea partier, very close to the right wing tea party point of view of the republican party. and i think this is dangerous and it's going to make the ideological divide even worse, far worse. i think as a democrat myself a liberal progressive democrat and an atheist also myself, i'm concerned about not only fundamentalist christianity aligned with the republican party, which it is, but also gerrymandering in many, many states, which is how, starting in 2010, with the gerrymandering, republicans were able to capture so many districts for the house of representatives. with the senate as well as the president, the whole state votes for senators and the whole state votes for president. but with the congress, the districts, like john boehner's district or any other congressional district, it can be gerrymandered so you can get virtually 95%, 9 % republicans voting and a small minority who a

but the greater victory is in the honor of john boehner. emarkable person. >> boehner said he didn't want it to be be a issue. do you think this will move the party forward or do you think they will unite now? mr. jolly: john boehner has removed himself as the issue facing our party, so we need to have a family conversation within our conference in the next four weeks to decide what to do next. >> do you expect a shutdown? mr. jolly: i absolutely hope not. i think with the speaker's decision, the odds of us shutting down are much less likely. >> and why is that? mr. jolly: because the shutdown caucus has a small victory and they can move forward knowing there's perhaps a bigger battle they can fight in the coming weeks. >> do you think that's why the speaker is stepping down, to avoid a shutdown? mr. jolly: you have to speak to him. i can't speak to his intent. >> look, it's a difficult -- it's a difficult conference to manage. it is the largest majority since the 1920's. mr. womack: it has an undercurrent of some people at the extreme right

john boehner resigns. >> all the more reason to get the news on. have a great day, everybody. >>> thanks. the man in second in line for the presidency after the vice president and one of the most powerful figures in washington calling it quits. this is the real story. house speaker john boehner sending shock waves across capital hill. he will resign from congress all together at tend of october. the announcement coming woe ini after the pope addressed congress. he said it has nothing to do with the timing of his decision. >> the pope puts his arm around me and pulls me to him. who am i to pray for the pope, but i did. >> incredible moment for him. mike emmanuel is live on capitol hill this afternoon. we know he's been debating this for years. he's been waiting until the end of this year. now before his birth day we get this. >> boehner said he planned it at the end of last year but events kept getting in the way of that. eventually enough was enough. >> prolonged leadership turmoil would do harm to the institution. i decided today is the day i'm go

it's a stunning end to john boehner's speakership. everyone had known that he faced some disent in his caucus. there has been speculation for numerous years that he might decide he has had enough of it after we had the difficulties in 2011 and 2013. no one expected the timing of today right after the pope's visit, which was a very emotional moment for john boehner, but it also coincides with the end of the fiscal year. another brinksmanship fight over shutting the government. john boehner, i think, calculated that, one, he was fed up with it, two, it was more likely that we will avoid a crisis with him stepping by -- stepping out than if he stayed, and that is likely true. members are saying that they believe that it's more likely that they'll avoid a shut down now, but that doesn't resolve the problem because this is a republican party that has a significant faction, carl, that is, as we've discussed in the last hour, disconnected from an achievable political reality, and they're not backing down. they have the power if not to pass t

the first part he expresses support for john boehner. first came to congress, john has been serving constituents with unparalleled passion. john has been a leader, mentor and friend throughout another not only experience but unshakable faith and principles. takes profound humility to step down in john's depth of character is unmatched. that is the first part. the second part is who might step forward and win. he goes on to say now is the time for conference to focus on healing and unified to face challenges ahead and always do what is best for the american people. .us moments ago. charles: with already had to mention the same breath as him saying they won't. maybe there's something we can read between the lines. let shift focus a little bit because the pope visiting ground zero, even as the best mcdonald -- elizabeth mcdonald. we have talked about the scope of his aversion to capitalism as wall street. we understood why the twin towers were paid as targets because they represented capitalism and the economic success of america. does he wa

resignation, one of the false conclusions is that there was no agreement on anyone to succeed john boehnerderate members. since the more conservative tea party part of the caucus did not have a logical number of votes and did not have a logical leader that boehner would hang on. now obviously, he's stepping down under threat of the caucus and this will be, of course, a closed vote and remains to be seen whether the more radical members who wanted to shut down the government can actually gain control of the caucus, which was being led by boehner and others who felt that they could keep the government going. now here at the united nations, the pope has delivered a speech, which has appealed to the entire general assembly to think of human life as being sacred. here's nancy pelosi. >> you challenged us to engage in dialogue. to move forward for the american people. he talked about his name sake saint francis is the name sake of the city of san francisco. saint francis was one of the first and earliest and strongest environmentalists so i was interested to hear what his holiness had to say yes

john boehner's a good man.is a patriot, he cares deeply about the house and the institution in which he served for a long time. he cares about his constituents. and he cares about america. we have obviously had a lot of disagreements and politically we're at different ends of the spectrum. but i will tell you he's always conducted himself with courtesy and civility with me. he has kept his word when he made a commitment. he's somebody who has been gracious and i think maybe most importantly he's somebody who nderstands that in government, in governance, you don't get 100% of what you want, but you have to work with people who you disagree with, sometimes strongly, in order to do the people's business. i'm not going to prejudge who the next speaker will be. that's something that will have to be worked through in the house. and i will certainly reach out immediately to whoever is the new speaker to see what his or her ideas are and how we can make progress on the important issues that america faces. the one thing

today, the american people have seen why john boehner's colleagues love him, and agree with john boehnert, he is a good man, and person of faith and at peace with himself who has always tried to put his country first. >> but not all of the republican colleagues love him, and we heard matt salmon say that in his district in arizona the biggest grief he got was voting for john boehner that he twice voted for him, and voted for john boehner as speaker of the house, and that is why he has turned against him and that is something that you have heard from other republicans. >> yes, the american people are frustrated and they are looking for the house to step up, and do more, and john has had big victories and losses, too, but now, we have to capitalize on the opportunity that john has given us, and it is an opportunity to come together. you know, after this decision is now made, we can come together, but we are still going to have the same president and the significant minority in the senate, and our opportunity to make a difference for this country is going to be when we stand together on con

john boehner is a good man. the people of his party do not support him, support obama they have to do the right thing. so i hope anybody replacing him will do the right thing. you have to follow what the party tell you. they should do the right thing for the american people. thank you. >> some of the video from yesterday. the speaker welcoming the pope to capitol hill. it was at the speaker's invitation that the pope decided to speak before congress. reynoldsburg, ohio. richard. >> caller: hello. yeah. i think it's great that boehner is resigning. i think it should have happened years ago. i think there should be 15 or 20 others that resign because they ain't doing nothing. they put them in there. they don't do nothing. they sit on their rear-ends and kiss everybody else's. thank you. >> carrollton, new york. what's your take on the speaker's resignation? carol? make sure you mute your television or radio. and go ahead with your comment. >> caller: okay. we are very unhappy with the government. we are unhappy wi

>> john boehner, to his own sacrifice, has removed himself as an issue to our party. we can let the conversation in our conference decide what to do in the next few weeks. >> do expect a shutdown? >> i do not. the odds are now much less likely. the shutdown caucus, as i call them, has a small victory and can now move forward in the coming weeks. >> do you think that's why the speakers stepping down, to avoid a shutdown? >> i cannot speak for him. it's a difficult conference to manage. majority sincest the 1920's. it has an undercurrent of some people at the extreme right of our party that have a sufficient voting block that are always going to have the capacity to put some pressure on the outcomes and our conference. again, it is a very difficult conference to manage. he has done very well. >> bolt the next speaker have the same constraints? i believe that the next person in line, whoever that is, is going to face the same difficult task of keeping a very broad conference together. i think that is going to be the case. you can change the faces and the names and the le

>> well, trish, john boehner says he left on his own terms. others would argue he saw the writing on the wall ahead of a looming budget battle, calling it a right-wing victory. either way, boehner looked relieved, he looked relaxed, if you watched that news conference, he looked thrilled a little while ago when he spoke to the media. he sung, my, oh, my, what a wonderful day when he stepped up to the microphone. he spoke with his wife and chief of staff and just decided he was done. >> this morning, i woke up and walked up to starbucks as usual, got my coffee and came back and read, walked up to pete's diner and saw everybody at pete's and got home and thought, yep, i think today is the day. >> and that was it, he says. boehner spoke with president george w. bush and president obama today who praised the leader and took a swipe at the wing of the party that swiped at its on leaders. >> and you can have significant issues, that doesn't mean you shut down the government, that doesn't mean you risk the full faith and credit of the united states, y

. >> dickerson: that was not applause for john boehner's years of service what one boehner colleague called unseemly competition of grave dancing it wasn't democrats doing the cheering it was members of boehner's own party. >> that's good. that's one down. that's 434 more to go before we done. you want to know how much each of you terrify washington? yesterday, john boehner was speaker was house. [ applause ] y'all come to town somehow that changes. >> dickerson:congressman tweeted it look like christmas is coming early this year, speaker bane tori sign from congress in october. congressman told, it couldn't be better day politically for us. took john boehner 20 years to convince pope to come do congress. frances spoke of mercy, less left indelible mark on the speaker but not his opponents. we've had a little tech income call problem with governor kasich we're going to start with our panel. susan page with the "usa today" and ed o'keefe for the "washington post" our own nancy cordes of cbs news. kim, start with you, what is the boehner -- put the boehner decision in larger context of

john boehner is a good man. he is a patriot.h he has served for a long time. he cares about his kconstituent, and he cares about america. you know, we have obviously had a lot of disagreements, and politically, with we are at different ends of the spectrum, but he has always conducted himself with courtesy and civility with me, and he has always kept his word when he has made a commitment, and he is somebody who has been gracious, and i think that maybe most importantly, he is somebody who understands that in government, in governance, you don't get 100% of what you want, but you have to work with people who you disagree with, and sometimes strongly in order to do the people's business. i'm not going to prejudge who the next speaker will be. that is something that will have to be worked through in the house. i will certainly reach out immediately to whoever is the new speaker to see what his or her ideas are, and how we can make progress in the important issues that make faces. the one thing that i will say is that my hope is th

don't expect that to happen since john boehner no longer had to listen to them. john boehner and senate republicans plan to pass a short-term spending bill in a case of kiging the can down the road until december, and it will fall to a new house speaker to navigate, but who. the top candidate, second in command, kevin mccarthy, he's served five terms, but is a popular proven fundraiser, announcing his candidacy in a letter to members writing: it's conservatives that mccarthy must convince, like mick mul vainie, who pardon sunday. >> as the inside track, will things change. will they change for the better or are we replacing john boehner with someone else wholedo the same thing. >> offering a challenge. florida websters, a battle brewing for the number two position, representative tom price winning significant endorsements from mainstream and conservative members. republicans are meeting at the capital to discuss strategy. there's no date on the calendar for leadership elections. >>> today a judge sentenced former prison worker joyce mitchell to up to seven years

john boehner has final say about which laws, in and don't.s basically the bouncer at club congress, which is probably the worst club ever. everyone at the club has aids. ok so aids wordplay on his first night in the chair. i'm curious what you think that might tell less about his style youg down the line -- what might tell us about his style going down the line. he has been offensive on twitter in the past. yes flat back against outreach culture, which has occurred a lot. is a massive debut. maybe not the best joke but it shows there might be a fearlessness to him that might push back against the audience in a way that can make the show is. -- his. mark: another big part of jon stewart's talent is he is a good interviewer. funny but informative. kevin hart was the guest yesterday. world with ae rockstar body as well. >> have you seen my pants? mark: it was not hard-hitting but i thought it was pretty friendly, welcoming. what did you think of him as an interviewer andy think we will see him with presidential candidates -- and do you think we

tell us who you would endorse, we would love to know that, what is the new speakership versus john boehner or the speakers before? rep. mica: i think the frustration has built up on boehner not being able to move forward. he has probably done as good of a job as he could do. there are some things that could have been done in a different way. speaker more likely will be kevin mccarthy. he is the majority leader. i think he is -- i think he has the strongest support. we will see what happens. republican elections, everyone has one vote, and things can change. we have got the whole month of october and what is left of september for folks to campaign. we will see what happens. again, i think that john did this in the best of interests of the congress, because he did not want that to be the issue. sees going to be tough to who gets the assignment, because you don't have the votes to override the president in the house or the senate. how would representative mccarthy be the same or different questio? rep. mica: there are 16 months left in the obama administration. you have got to work with every

very emotional speaker of the house john boehner getting the pope to speak in front of the united states congress was one of boehner's most sought after career goals. this comes at a time when we're nearing a government shutdown. although abrupt shs the timing of this certainly no coincidence. i want to bring in dana bash. what are your sources telling you the reasoning for this decision by the speaker of the house? >> reporter: i mean, i think that the speaker pretty much summed it up himself. e he spoke in a a little bit of political code, but it was obvious what he was trying to say. which is that it has been so tough for him to be speaker and he reads in the newspapers that there would be yet another challenge to him. maybe even one where there would be a vote forced on the floor of the house of representatives to try to take him out of his speak rership. he didn't want to put the institution through that. having said that, yes, he did announce that he was already planning on saying that he was going to step down. he was going to announce that on his birthday in november. he decided

this a sudden decision or did you see this coming. >> there was a 8 from his spoke woman that john boehner wasn't going anywhere. there was talk in the house of representatives that there would be an evident to throw hip out or he would resign. there was a cool of thought that boehner would have accomplished one of his life's goals here, bringing the pope to the capitol to speak before a joint meeting of congress. he's a jesuit, and he would go out on the highest note possible. they said maybe this would be the tipping point. and one wonders if this is something that has come up in the past couple hours, driven by the remarkable event of having the pope here yesterday. i was in boehner's office yesterday talking to some of his aide about the spending bill and there was no hint this was on the radar screen. bill: how did the republican caucus -- how did they literally lose faith in hip as a leader? >> i think it what you a number of thing. it's hard to pinpoint this. two years ago we had the government shutdown, something boehner himself said wasn't wise. then it happened. and you had folk

he was john boehner's spokesman on capital hill. terry holt, was there a final precipitating moment do you think for your friend john boehner? something that finally said, all right, fine, it's time to go now? >> a high moment, yes. the visit by the pope, i think, was a galvanizing spiritual moment for the speaker. he's been talking about someday this day will come for a very long time and i think the combination of having had a very high day with the pope visit and then that walk as he described in his interviews late last week, that walk to get a coffee, it doesn't get any better than that. and it's right back into the meat grinder. i can save my colleagues a lot of pain and agony and i can do the country a little bit of good. i'll just turn it off now and go out on top. i think that's what he did. >> norm, we heard people at the value voter's coalition cheering the announcement that boehner had decided to put down the gavel. probably equal only to the cheers around the country of democrats who saw him as no particular friend. are

there you can see john boehner with the pope. he announced he is loving and did the media play a role? the host of media buzz, coming up. listen up team, i brought in some protein to help rearrange the fridge and get us energized! i'm new ensure active high protein. i help you recharge with nutritious energy and strength to keep you active. come on pear, it's only a half gallon. i'll take that. yeeeeeah! new ensure active high protein. 16 grams of protein and 23 vitamins and minerals. all in 160 calories. ensure. take life in. >>> the speaker of the house is resigning. john boehner says he will step down from his post and congress at the end of october. said he had been thinking about it for long time. he was going to step down at tend of last term. because of eric cantor's loss in his re-election campaign he decided it wouldn't be fair to leave vacuum of leadership at the top of the republican party and the speakership. he stayed on until now. did the media play a role? >> i think the media played a secondary job. really the rea

he opposed the reelection of john boehner as speaker. get your reaction to the news. you used the word shocking. that was a general sense of the republican conference room we heard john make the speech to us at nine. we were surprised that he would do so and he would do so as quickly as they did. the turnaround will be sometime next month in october. did you haveoblems with john boehner's leadership? we were in a lot of challenging situations whether it is the problems with the administration, whether it is the fact we have not had an administration that has been responsive to congress or to the american people, and for those reasons you see in the polls across the country as well that the american public is frustrated as mi with the direction that washington has been going. ofre's why you see percentage of the polling numbers show that both sides of the aisle from left and right, republicans and democrats feel a sense of frustration that we are not able to move things along. i am optimistic as we go forward. i wish john all the best and

lit probably happen in the speaker's fight to replace john boehner. i don't think it will be an easy rode, that decision. how that decision turns out and who fights for it may give us an inkling the kind of candidate that will win the nomination on the gop side. jenna: we were showing john boehner at the podium. he hasn't spoken officially about this. i don't want our viewers to think we miss wad he had to say. interesting thoughts from joe on whether the republican party gets more clarity going into 2016 or less clarity and a schism. >> like all republican conferences, what happens inside, they never say what happened but they all leak and they all talk. there is a real grassroots rebellion out there. trump's numbers in these polls, it's a real trend it am not about a person or celebrity. it's about people in the country who are so frustrated putting their hopes and dreams in these institutions. i think they aren't pushing back strong enough on obama. i don't think it will make that big an impact on the presidential race. but i think what's happening

and if anybody who's worked with john boehner would be able to tell you that john boehner is an emotional guy is not news. he is somebody who wears his heart on his sleeve. he's somebody who treats staff like family. and is also somebody who's a very committed catholic. seeing all of that really didn't -- i didn't think it was much news. what i did find was news is when john boehner was asked about the historical significance of that moment and saying that this topped all other days that he'd ever had working in the congress. this is somebody who's been there since probably the early '80s. that, i think, had a tremendous -- that made me stop and think. and then when you hear this news today, you recognized the profound impact of the pope addressing the congress had on john boehner. he is at his core an institutionalist. by that, he cares more about the institution of congress than he does about party. and i think his -- this decision today is a reflection of just how important he thinks it is for the institution to move on and to have new leadership. >> but it's interesting time, though,

we await john boehner to come to the lectern. l see if that will be a little awkward for him to do that while the pope is still speaking, but we'll see what the timing is on boehner. he's usually pretty prompt as it adheres to the schedule. in the meantime let's bring in ben white of politico to talk more about the speaker's decision to resign as speaker and from congress. ben, good morning. >> good morning. >> we're getting word from nbc's frank thorp today that paul ryan was just asked if he will run. his response, quote, i'm not. it's a good job for an empty nester. your calculation on what comes next. >> yeah, i just saw that tweet about paul ryan as well. i think kevin mccarthy is the most likely successor to boehner. boehner wanted to leave at the end of last year but didn't when eric canter lost his primary. but there will be a leadership fight here. there are going to be conservatives who will see mccarthy as more boehner not willing to take on the president and democrats. so we're going to have a difficult and lengthy lea

they become different people. >> a look at the headlines in the power post, house speaker john boehner. joining us for a look at what happened and what might be next is paul kane. what are some of the main issues that led to speaker boehner announcing his resignation today? kane: he has been a speaker for almost five years and for almost every day on the job, the first thing he has had to do is battle with this conservative contingent. people, from 10-40 depending on the issue of the moment, who have been agitating for the most confrontational approach to dealing with barack obama. to settle down after his understudy eric cantor admitted june, boehner that he wanted to retire, but cantor was gone and he felt like he wanted to be a veteran presence. months, things have settled down but there were still constant chirps from conservatives. controversiale videos revealing abortion practices by planned parenthood. for the last two months, conservatives have taken that issue and said, what we have to do is shut down the government. to force obama and the democrats to come to the table, and a

john boehner stepping down. he addressed his decision to resign at a press conference within the hour. >> it has become clear to me that this prolonged leadership turmoil would do irreparable harm to the institution. this morning, i informed my colleagues that i would resign from the speakership and resign from the congress at the end of october. brendan: joining us now on the phone is john heilemann. and phil mattingly. let's start with you. the speakers as he woke up this morning, preyed on it, went to a diner, decided today was the day. is there anything else going on today that would have pushed him? he hadspeaker said decided he was near resigning, ready to resign around last year. cancers defeat and decided he needed to stick around for the sake of the party. cantor's the feet. -- defeat. there are questions looming before his chamber of congress which relate to the potential government shutdown, the debates over trying to defund planned parenthood, and ugly fight over the course of the next week. resulted

you heard some cheering when john boehner's resignation was announced, you've known him for awhile. >> long time. dickerson: give us your reaction to his resignation? >> i'm saded. john was a very -- he's a great guy. interview described it all. it's a shame that people weren't seeing that earlier on you did a very good job in the interview. i was there in the '90s when we got things done. think about it we changed welfare system which had been in place 40 years. we balanced the budget of which i was chief architect. and we cut taxes the economy was growing we were doing great and when i left washington we had a $5 trillion surplus. boehner sat right next to me. that was some of the most productive time that republicans or conservative has had. think budget which people think is fiction, reforming welfare and cutting capital gains taxes and creating economic growth. we need to reflect on his accomplishments then and riding and becoming speaker. >> dickerson: what about his -- in terms of why that is harder to do today what patrol do you think the group that he calls false prophet in y

we'll talk with two leading house republicans with sharply different views about john boehner, and how far to go in what boehner's >>> john boehner stunned washington friday, announcing he'll step down as speaker and leave congress in a month. the news raises questions about whether a government shutdown will now by avoided and where house republicans go from here. joining me now, two gop congressmen at the center of the debate. tom cole a member of boehner's leadership team, and mick mull caucus, which has sharply critical of boehner. welcome to "fox news sunday." >> good to be here. down. >> it's become clear to me this prolonged leadership turmoil would do irreparable harm to the institution. >> congressman mull vainie, what was wrong with boehner as speaker, and did you force him out? >> what was wrong, we stopped being a coequal branch of government. i had a farmer come into my office a couple weeks ago and tell a story how he had to get down on his knees and beg a epa regulator. that's sad where a farmer has to come in and do that stuff. congress used to be able to fight against

speaker john boehner set to resign at the end of october. here are the headlines from papers around the nation this morning. "with exit,globe," boehner sets off shockwaves." from "the denver post," "push came from within." the front page of "the washington post," "house speaker resigns to avert crisis." "the los angeles times" already looking at the succession of the speaker and looking at heaven mccarthy from california -- kevin mccarthy, from california, favorite to replace boehner as speaker. to the front page of john boehner's other hometown, here call," "gton, "roll boehner resignation sets off chaotic leadership scramble." to help answer your questions this morning, we're joined onset by jason dick of "roll call." conference andan up becoming too big, too unruly for him? guest: it looks like it. we have in watching capitol hill for a long time. the majority only gets so big. as you said, this is about as big as it gets for any majority. once you get into the to 40-250 range, you are bringing in people to your caucus were not necessarily

john boehner, any impacts on the market?t the announcement, up almost 200, we came down, went sideways for a while. the turmoil in washington d.c., including a possible shut down, you get worried about that >> not really i think if there's a shutdown, it will be contained, i think they all know everybody loses, the futures apparently modestly lower the chances of the shutdown startle >> what do you think? >> i think there's turmoil everywhere and starting to reek havoc, including the fed >> hillary, it seems the glasses got a little foggier than last time i saw you. just saying >> the pope on the move all over new york city today. he's at the united nations, ground zero, catholic school in east harlem, thousands in central park and you're looking right now at this moment they've begun a mass in the madison square guarden, a historic one so keep it right here. we're talking about the pope, john boehner, the stock market ask everything else in there. we'll be right back ♪ every auto insurance policy has a number. but not every

john boehner announced he is resigning. after 13 terms representing an ohio district and five years as speaker he's had enough. the departure before he could face a fight to floor him. many say he is not fighting planned parenthood. boehner is officially leaving the end of october. >>> controversial clerk kim davis is switching to the republican party because she feels abandoned by the democrats. she made headlines when she refused to issue marriage licenses for same-sex couples. she spent five days in jail by refusing to issue the licenses. davis said she is becoming a republican while attending a conservative gathering. >>> they are changing the way they test for diesel emissions after getting duped. they will now use on road testing. it allowed cars to pass tests in the lab and releasing pollution into the highway. meanwhile voces cage again faces billions of dollars in fines. now back to "red eye." for all of your headlines go to fox news.com. you are watching the most powerful name in news, fox newschannel. >>> welcome

what do you think john boehner's politics truly are? at effectively boehner's differences with the radical republican base are more tactical than philosophical. molly ball in the atlantic says effectively john boehner is the front man for the gop's business-oriented wing. where do you think he actually is in terms of his ideology? >> i think he's what we would have called 20 or 30 years ago a rock-ribbed conservative. i don't think there's much question about that. but these days a rock-ribbed conservative who's possibly willing to compromise and legislate is a sellout and a quizling to the more extreme wing of his party. sew gets tagged as a moderate. but he's not a moderate at all ideologically. he's a conservative. he just believes or once believed or tried to believe or something like that in the idea of legislation and compromise, but then he caved as speaker repeatedly. repeatedly, repeatedly, time and time again he caved to his extremists. the ideological differences between him and the other camp doesn't make a difference. what m

john boehner is expected to pass the legislation, should it pass the senate. several stories looking at the future of the republican party, highlighting the tug-of-war between establishment republican versus those who align with the tea party. we want to hear from republicans only. what do you think and who do you think leads the republican party? who do you think leads the current republican party and if there are changes needed. (202) 748-8000 four eastern and central time zones. for mountain and pacific time zones. if you want to make your thoughts known on social media, reach us onhow you twitter, and you can post on facebook.com/cspan. right sees power grow with the end of the boehner era. they expect the new speaker to to mcconnell, whom many house conservatives would like to see follow boehner. i am afraid it may make things worse. john boehner is good. i have known him since he has been in congress. he is trying to do his best. from usa today this morning, roger williams shares the house conservatives fund. this is what he writes. it is an opportunity

this became about john boehner, john boehner raising money and john boehner as the speaker and staff and lobbyists enabling him versus the institution, the broad picture, what they'll do for america, articulating that and reaching out to his own conference. it became about john boehner. it happened. it happened to me and a lot of people but he got lost somewhere along the line of where he needed to be and how he needed to operate. it became more about john boehner. >> we'll see if mitch mcconnell will as well. thank you, sir, for joining us. we appreciate it. we want to hear from you and get you to weigh in on boehner's resignation with a potential showdown under way, we can expect fireworks on capitol hill. who do you think will win out? a conservative or someone who's viewed part of the gop establishment? let me know your thoughts and tweet me @umapemmaraju. we'll get to it later in the show. >>> ominous new development in the fight against isis in iraq. three long time enemies of the u.s., russia, syria, and iran all teaming up now to fight the terror group. their core nation posi

joe: one of the big headlines was the resignation of john boehner, one day after the pope addressed congressehner: we witnessed the awesome site of pope francis addressing the greatest legislative body in the world. i hope that we will all heed his call to live by the golden rule. last night i started thinking about this, and this morning i woke up and said my prayers as i always do and decided today is the day i will do this. it is as simple as that. scarlet: here with us to discuss this move in context is the chief global political analyst, tina. if you consider the backdrop, a fractured republican party, wide-open race, in the credit -- a democratic front runner losing steam, when you calculate the geopolitical risk, how big is the divide in the u.s. government? >> it is on the lower end. it is part of the political cycle we have been following for a few years. i called it lather, rinse, repeat. could we go for another shutdown? maybe. it is not until the end of this year. looking at political developments, we won't worry about it until closer to the time. it as to the generalized uncerta

john boehner, shocking washington with his surprise resignation. the day after pope francis lectured congress about working together for the common good. but first, our exclusive conversation with jeb bush. he's gone from front runner to middle of the pack. but he's making up ground. he took us to a park in little havana, where people are playing their traditional game of dominos. they greeted him like an old friend. >> on the one hand, they speak spanish, but they're good, assimilated americans, too. >> well, it's american life. the first generation comes, sacrifices for their children, and they end up being as american as anybody else. >> then we went to a bush field office to discuss a campaign that has been tougher than many expected. let's start with some news. you made some comments that stirred up controversy about how republicans should reach out to african-american voters. >> our message isn't one of division and get in line, and we'll take care of you with free stuff. >> people are comparing that to what mitt romney said about free stuff