they're both being paid through this effort, john boehner are back with us now.t to start with you on this segment. what types of jobs are affected? >> well, really, across the board, they're -- these are folks that are union jobs, these are folks that are multiemployer plans. and primarily, on the central states pension plan right now, that is the largest facing severe cuts, if something is not done to help ameliorate that. >> when we talk about millions of jobs, though, what types of industries? >> you have transportation industry, we have the baking industry. pipefitters, plumbers, plasterers, you have a whole long list, carpenters, where they -- these members may work for multiple employers, and so these employers and labor unions come together to develop these multiemployer pension plans for a long time. but they are defined plans. in other words, you work x number of years you get x amount for your retirement. like a lot of big companies used to do, the big companies got rid of these plans because they couldn't account for the fact that they're all living s

john boehner was a great speaker, but the singer, not so much. enjoyed talking to him, the republican power broker of his time, and the former democratic caucus chairman joe crowley. they are both on the same page. they buried the hatchet. the signal here they are sending republicans and democrats is they better bury the hatchet when it comes to addressing issues that need addressing right now, including a lot of pension plans that are at risk of going belly-up and the insurance agency that covers those funds, that's at risk of going belly-up. but you wouldn't know it, given the clamor and the charges of racism and worse going back and forth on capitol hill. back with my panel right now. gerry, danielle, michael. danielle, hope springs eternal, of course, that the two sides can get something done but these guys are saying, you know, they had their battles, in fact, we have to put the personal insults aside and work with each other. that has happened in the past but it seems very tough now. what do you think? >> no, i think we all want to put hope

john boehner having to deal with his own right flank. it's not the best apples to apples comparison because john boehner was pushed -- >> now he's working on marijuana lobbying back home. i think that's the cautionary tale completely because john boehner didn't see what a potent force within the party these insurgents coming in were. if they go out of their way to antagonize the bright shiny new objects that do have incredible social media followings. that have a lot of grass roots support, then that's not helpful for the overall caucus. i agree with joel's point, that this is a generational battle. but nancy pelosi has to be careful how she wages this battle in the press, because, again, it's counterproductive to try to go up against -- especially these young women who have shown that they have quite a command of the media landscape. >> she got a lot of questions about this. what do you think she should say when she's asked about how she handled the squad? >> presley said i'm focused on the shootings that are happening in my district an

threatening to make it harder for hour to keep her people together, and begin having problem that john boehner had or paul ryan had in terms of actually governing getting votes across the line this was attempt to say knock it off you need to step back, we will see how she comes out of it. paul: kim, she singled out four people, and they call themselves the squad. and the more rad kale members is caucus are these dissenters large faction or just four? >> he well, there is a larger group of people sharing sentiment what nancy pelosi managed to do the keep even most progressives on her page of believing look we've got to govern more moderately we need backs of moderates she brought them along on votes what these handful or maybe a dozen members are doing, is encouraging more of the progressive members to step away from that that pragmatic view worried could get out of control. >> i think this is very smart, pelosi's part making it letting it become public is very smart strategy for this reason, i think, the way press played out -- ocasio-cortez other new members they have begun to define who this

threatening to make it harder for hour to keep her people together, and begin having problem that john boehner had or paul ryan had in terms of actually governing getting votes across the line this was attempt to say knock it off you need to step back, we will see how she comes out of it. paul: kim, she singled out four people, and they call themselves the squad. and the more rad kale members is caucus are these dissenters large faction or just four? >> he well, there is a larger group of people sharing sentiment what nancy pelosi managed to do the keep even most progressives on her page of believing look we've got to govern more moderately we need backs of moderates she brought them along on votes what these handful or maybe a dozen members are doing, is encouraging more of the progressive members to step away from that that pragmatic view worried could get out of control. >> i think this is very smart, pelosi's part making it letting it become public is very smart strategy for this reason, i think, the way press played out -- ocasio-cortez other new members they have begun to define who this

>> 35. >> because of that they had tremendous leverage over what john boehner and paul ryan can do. what do you think is developing? >> the same dynamics are playing out. pelosi is right that they are four votes, but she's wrong that it's just four votes. outside of congress, it's the heart and soul of the democratic party. what i think you will see is these four members work -- there is a 97-member progressive caucus and parallels with the republican party. you had the study committee which is how the freedom caucus was create and we say 35, but it was really the freedom caucus and more like 20 and 25. a good way to think of it is consent rick circles of hell. it doesn't matter that they are part of the caucus, but they are there. you will see that again with democrats. the four are going to figure out a way to convince 12 or so. they are going to get new members into congress. i think you will see a new freedom caucus on the left and figure out this is the only way to flex their muscle. nancy pelosi forced them in this position. >> i guess the question is how do you -- overtime, l

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2011 when the republicans took the majority and nancy pelosi had the one that handed the gavel to john boehner and then unfortunately had handed back. discretionary funding which congress has control over those 12 appropriation bills less money was spent at that moment from nancy and the gavel so what i believe the greatest crisis in america today is our debt unfortunately the new socialist democrats are in the majority. so we will vote on $100 billion less. we actually force them to spend less money as you find the military to begin to fund that? yes. how we gone far enough? know. to make that is the goal of mandatory spending and they were the only ones that could fault mandatory spending but unfortunately we lost that vote in the senate by one vote we have been able to pass a budget when we were the majority and i watch the democrats and nancy pelosi and the speaker show me your budget and show me your values. in those 200 days of celebration they didn't put that they pass the budget because they did not do it the fundamental responsibility of the majority is to lay out a budget you will ne

particularly, i've known john boehner for a long time, his father was a bar owner, he grew up in the rough and tumble, we all, people who were around during the years when things actually worked, where you could get things done, name calling was never acceptable. and when i look at what's happening in the house of representatives and that frozen line down the middle of the aisle between republicans and democrats, i don't recognize the place. because back in the days when i was in the congress we didn't tolerate it, somebody got out of line like that, we'd take them to the back corner and explain the facts of life to them. i didn't tolerate it when i was governor, and i don't tolerate it in the public arena. i think what john is doing is he's reluctant to name call. i can't be any more clear or out there as what i've had to say about the tone the president set, and look, every day, i -- people need to understand why i was never for the guy. i was never for him, because i saw these things, i thought it would change and it hasn't. i also want to talk to the americans who form these crow

i will say she is in a more tenuous position than john boehner ever was. she, pelosi. chris: i'm surprised is that because the house freedom caucus had more members then the squad does. i love the squad. [laughter] chris: >> the first opportunity they had in a legislative function to show these riffs was before the fourth of july and if you backed up and look at the timeline in 2010 for when john boehner's problem started these are accelerated and much, much quicker and more aggressive way and in a personal way that has to publicans ever were at that stage. what is equally hard for me to figure out is how she can repair it. we are talking about extreme differences that are manifesting themselves on the national stage, extremely personal attacks from two sides of the conference, never the two shall meet. the governing, at this stage, looks to me, to be different. chris: i will turn to another subject. we were bickering up for the big hearing with robert mueller. this wednesday july 17 with all the coverage on fox and then they were delayed through july 24, 1 week from w

john boehner and joe crowley who alexandria ocasio-cortez primaried out of a job. why these two men had buried the hatchet and say both parties better do the same, this week that we remember the first men to walk on the moon, let us not forget the one that did not. apollo 11 command module pilot michael collins is here and only here. truly out of this world, your world is now. welcome. i'm glad to have you. i'm neil cavuto. so much to get to, so let us get to it. first up, settling a 18-year long battle that rages on. at issue, compensating the now thousands of rescue workers that are awaiting help from washington. jon stewart said he's is making things difficult. rand paul is said that jon stewart is making things up. >> i know jon stewart. jon stewart is sometimes funny, sometimes informed. in this case he's not funny nor informed. i put forward pay for the border funding, a pay for the disaster funding. i do this on every bit of funding. his name calling exposes him as a left winger, part of the left wing mob that is not using his brain. it's really disgusting.

americans -- when the republicans took the majority and nancy pelosi had to hand that gavel to john boehner, the unfortunate moment where i had to hand it back to her when we lost the majority, the discretionary funding, which congress has control over, those 12 appropriations bills, was actually less money being spent at that moment than was being spent when nancy handed the gavel over. this is a core element of what we fundamentally believe i believe our greatest crisis in america today is our debt. unfortunately, we are living in a world where new socialist democrats are in the majority. if you look what they have passed in the appropriations and what we'll vote on today is $100 billion less. so, yes, even though we are in the minority, we have got to be able -- we actually forced them to spend less money. were we able to protect in the riders that are law? yes. were we able to fund the military to begin to build it after what the obama administration did? yes. but have we gone far enough? no. i want to see more done. there will be republicans who vote for it and republicans who don't fo

i will say she is in a more tenuous position for an john boehner ever was. >> chris: she, pelosi? >> chris: i'm surprised you say that because the house freedom caucus had a lot more members than the squad does. i love the squad. it's the squad. >> the squad from here on out. the first opportunity they had in a legislative function to sort of show these rifts is right before the fourth of july and i think you backup and look at the time line in 2010 for when john boehner's problems started, these are accelerated. these are much, much quicker and much, much more aggressive and personal way that house republicans ever were at that stage. what is equally hard for me to figure out is how she can ever repair it. we're talking about extreme differences that are manifesting themselves on the national stage and extremely personal attacks with two sides of the conference, never the two shall meet. so the governing at this stage looks to me to be very, very difficult. >> chris: all right, i'm going to turn to another subject. we were getting ready for the big hearings with robert mueller, t

and paul ryan and john boehner were in that position.elosi watched, laughed sometimes, heckled. other times she knows how difficult it's. she does not want to be in that position, and that's why i think she's being so aggressive. >> kasie hunt, is there any empathy outside the fore for the squad here? do they have the ability to build their coalition? >> i think they may have a little bit of leeway. but it's certainly not as deep as -- i think betsy made an absolutely great point there. house speaker nancy pelosi is worried about her majority and her majority is -- >> are you a citizen of the united states of america? >> we are going to listen to the president about citizenship. >> i'm sorry. i just can't answer that question. and that's after spending billions and billions of dollars. there used to be a time when you could answer questions like that very easily. there used to be a time when you could proudly declare i am a citizen of the united states. now they are trying to erase the very existence of a very important word and a very i

john boehner and paul ryan learned. there is also the question of the democratic party and all those folks that you covered in columns in the run up to 2018 who were motivated in the skill at defending her membership, but if you are going to make people take a hard vote, make them do it now. in six months it probably is true that we moved on to other outrage and people will not vote on the basis of a vote that their congress person took right now. >> jason? >> i agree. it doesn't make sense if you say it's not going to matter, what's the problem with doing the vote now. pelosi has a perfect example. you had democrats take a huge hit for voting for the health care. it was a huge problem. does anyone think that 31 democrats will lose their seat for voting for impeachment? i doubt it. it's not as unpopular as the affordable care act was nine years ago. i don't understand this calculation. >> i think this is what they think and it's not a bad point. they took a hit and lost the majority over the affordable care act. they st

one of the things that stuck out to me in is book, you spent time in the book with paul ryan, john boehner, every leading republican figure over the last 10 years, certainly a lot of the establishment figures and some of the tea party aligned figures, almost all of them you can tell, even if i don't they so explicitly recognize that they misunderstood the tea party movement, this was not really about fiscal conservative, feature of a lot of the voters, i thought one thing that was telling and you could tell the audience about it is you talked to newt gringrich who is probably as observer about how to sort of, you know, please and satisfy the republican primary voter, what did he learn in 2012, do you remember that? >> yeah i do, i do, newt gringrich was at cross roads in his primary campaign for the presidency in 2012 and tried just about everything to get the media's attention and gain traction in the polls and you may recall this, a long time ago in the political years but newt gringrich was heading into the south carolina primary, he had done very poorly in iowa and new hampshire and ca

the past 8 years that he's been in congress challenging the republicans challenging people like john boehner basically getting stripped of all this committee assignments because he was always a thorn of the side of the party because he does keep to that consistent limited government government why he is the one republican or former republican now who who said that the most report presents evidence that would justify starting impeachment proceedings right and he was essentially let's call a spade a spade drummed out of the party i mean it's not necessarily that he left of his own accord he was frozen out of the party which demonstrates a couple things there's no place for a republican like justin amash in the party and the rest of the party is really circling the wagons around trump we see the transformation which we've seen for the past couple of years of the republican party into the party of trump you know that's a very good point to make because i think it's july 15th is when robert muller is going to testify we will see them what the republican reaction is to that workers always good to

facing opposition germany's defense minister needs a majority of votes in parliament to replace john boehner younker proposed policies include a fair minimum wage and a deal on asylum seekers. in the last 5 years more than 17000 people have drowned in the mediterranean which has become one of the deadliest border in the world at sea there is the judy to save lives thank you john hall joins us now from strasbourg german so just talk us through what sort of obstacles urson have on the land actually faces now. well her chief obstacle course is skeptical m.e.p. as inside the european parliament quite a lot of them who she's got to convince to back her center right german defense minister as the european commission president for the next 5 years she's just been addressing the parliament you saw humane borders she talked about this was the humane face of. lennon and she also put up all sorts of other tantalizing ambitious some say overambitious prejudices pledges and promises tough on the rule of law big taxes for multinationals a massive climate green deal to be launched in her 1st 100 years aime

john boehner who served for nearly a quarter century, now a cannabis pitchman.aul ryan, the policy work of congress now the target of president trump's latest tantrum which he continued on twitter minutes ago and began on friday. >> paul ryan was not a talent. he was not a leader. when the great congressmen to want to go after the demes for things they did very badly. he would not give subpoenas to paul ryan. paul ryan was a terrible speaker. he was a baby. he did not know what the hell he was doing. >> here is the deal. democrats, if you are not careful this is your future. republicans will exploit the fights because they can. because it is easy. they will watch with popcorn and greet the cannibalizing with glee. i am upon not here to revel in this. i am like the ghost of politics past. warning you. don't make the same mistakes we did. bad for our party and really bad for the country. when the loudest voices in the room represent the fewest people. majorities are steered to the farthest fringes. moderates are blotted out by extremists that are shoving bold chan

it's a show john boehner says he's seen before.democrats would face their own tea party moment and reckoning. it's their turn in the barrel, he said what democrats are going through in 2016 and 2018 with the progressive moment, republicans went through in 2010 and 2012 with the tea party moment. emily, you sat down with the speaker is he lent recently and talked about this in part. maureen dowd talked about how all these people have their public whatever and their twitter world but they didn't have following. there's four people, that's how many votes they got. she's speaking about these four fee maim congresswomen attacked by the president this week what is the sense of her role now the second time around as speaker? >> it's to pass legislation. it's to pass legislation so that when and if democrats do take over, both houses of congress have a senate they can work with, and a new presidency with a baseline to move. they started by passing sweeping democracy reforms, they passed sweeping gun control, they passed a large minimum wag

john boehner says i don't know where the republican party is these days. indeed it is.pes and dreams of a lot of people at the grassroots level. a lot of the people still care about what they cared about. >> that is interesting. if republicans don't stand for cutting spending and national security, what do we stand for? what are the things those grassroots voters think that we are as republicans? >> well, right now hypocrites. republicans, in fairness, one of the corner stones that we stood for has been realism. prudence on that front. that seems to have gone out the door as we are running record levels of deficit. have the largest debt we ever had in our country's history. i think we really have a spending problem. i think the debt deal that you alluded to really highlights that fact. you know, if president barak obama signed a deal like that. >> of course. >> the fact that there has been an eerie silence as the president says it is good to go. one, all things in elected office in washington seem to revolve around president trump if you are a republican office holder,

. >> john boehner can empathize with this. >> and his figure coup. >> vote s in the caucus are mor important twitter. these fours are playing on their progressive caucus. if it hurts the democrats' ability to have an agenda or get things done, that hurts everybody including the progressives. >> thank you so much. the president's win in court regarding his trump hotel right here on msnbc. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" stay with us on msnbc. stay with us on msnbc when i book at hilton.com i get to select my room from the floor plan... free wi-fi... ...and the price match guarantee. so with hilton there is no catch. yeah the only catch is i'm never leaving. no i'm serious, i live here now. book at hilton.com and get the hilton price match guarantee. look limu. a civilian buying a new car.ug let's go. limu's right. liberty mutual can save you money by customizing your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. oh... yeah, i've been a customer for years. huh... only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ >>> and now to a federal appeals court siding wit

. >> just one of the stories on one of the pages of the book is one of your conversations with john boehner on our current politics. it just knocked us out. at some point we're going to have to realize we're americans first and democrats and republicans and conservatives and liberals second. the country is more important than what each of the parties believe in. it's going to take an intervening event for americans to realize that. the author interjects. an intervening event? something cataclysmic boehner responds, gazing upward. any idea what he had in mind. >> i do. sadly. this conversation came against the back drop of talking about 9/11. my book focuses on this period of history from 2008 to 2018 for a number of reasons. it's a neat ten-year window that we can look at the trump rise and the change within the republican party. but much of this i think does probably go back to the post 9/11 environment because that was really the last time in which you saw the country unified not just politically but culturally, as well. there was a real sense of societal cohesion. i think what boehner an

at 12:30 east entime, we'll have john boehner, my special guest with joe crowley.seated by congresswoman lopez. we'll get their reads on -- cortez, i should say. what he wants to do know. what they both want to do to improve the nation's discourse. here's "the five." >> juan: hello i'm wayne with katie, jesse, greg. it's 5:00 p.m. in new york city. this is "the five." the squad renewing their problems with nancy pelosi. the former congressman criticizing the speaker after she rebuked president trump's controversial comments about them. >> are you speaking to nancy pelosi? >> our teams are in communication. >> shouldn't it be a face to face? >> i agree, yes. >> she

if you look at her two previous republican counter parts, john boehner and paul ryan who were taken outn their caucus, you're seeing a lot of strength coming from speaker pelosi. she will wrangle her party. i was listening to "we are family." she has her caucus under control. i think she's doing a great job. >> shannon: and congressman rokanna said i give the trump to president. nobody unifies our party more than the president. he said the tweets help the democrats get together when a lot of people say there's a schism there. >> yes, president trump has taken the attention away from the feud and put it on himself. that's a mistake looking at it. but this is a bigger problem for the left beyond just nancy pelosi and aoc. socialism is a trend that we're seeing becoming more and more popular among young americans. my colleague at the daily signal attended a socialism conference. they're talking about marxist socialism. nancy pelosi knows that. this is the beginning of a movement that democrats have to deal with the party being pulled further and further to the left to the point that they'l

most republican iter ration in which the house freedom caucus had big numbers and paul ryan or john boehnerld be roled. and nancy pelosi does not have that political problem in terms of the head counting in her caucus, and all of the votes are on her side and she is not allowing them to win internal fights, but she has a perception, because a party that looks split is not where they want to look heading into the election. >> and now, what do you see of issuing new subpoenas for 12 current members of the trump administration, and including the members of the administrations who are not current or former members of the trump administration like david pecker of the national enquirer. >> it is incredibly interesting, including corey lewandowski, because they are not previous or current white house official, and they have stone walled with executive privilege which they might push for with kushner and others, but no case for lewandowski and pecker. it is a sign that the house is not going to wait for robert mueller's testimony to tell the story. they are pressing to get the primary witnesses who

. >> juan: what i'm reminded of is john boehner, paul ryan, i think paul ryan is to the left, the caucushere is one dealing with the same dynamics to the far right but it is the far left. >> jesse: i think weiner has to have -- you think you have it bad to. >> greg: i don't think it is wine anymore. [laughter] >> jesse: she has four bomb throwers and he has dozens of tea party members starting in 2,010. for many, many years that made his life hell over spending and the debt ceiling. he did his best to keep the beef behind closed doors. nancy seems to keep having these public spats. she's only got four little bomb throwers. and it's -- she's had fights about anti-semitism, impeachment, progressivism and the border funding thing. the green new deal. and she would just be much better served if she would let her team handle the drama and ignore them. now, she has nicked named them the squad, elevating them in the media. and this is wrong but i do agree with aoc. you shouldn't diminish the power of social media. she doesn't dial color for dollars and she kim level that platform. and i think s

in the same way that john boehner was and paul ryan was before her.the right side of that. this is a win for them. >> look, i agree with you. this is not going to go away. trump's perspective, he wants to make them the face of 2020 for the elections. they're will ago come polices. they crave attention the way a teenager craves attention on instagram. he thinks this can be a win-win for him. >> is he right? >> let me tell you why he's right. if you look at the battle grounds, the swing states, this election is decided by seven or eight states. aoc's favorable in the swing states are 22. omar is 9%. this could be a game changer for him if he plays his card right. >> minnesota is a swing state. if she's unpopular in her own state, will she stay beyond one term is another question. you talk about 2020. we haven't talked about the 2020 democratic candidates. i don't know that this helps them. >> it doesn't help them. that's the point. the most important time for president trump is between now and when the democrats have the event you'll nominee. he hopes t

it has broad support from business across this country, immigration groups supported, john boehner wascaucus in the house of representatives at that time taking him out because of this bill. it solves the actual problem, i know what might be controversial for some people both on the left and the right but it is a solid piece of legislation that would pass if it was brought up for a vote today and it would give the resources the border patrol needs and a pathway to solving all of these problems with immigration in the country, including the dreamers and others. it would also create a real system to monitor people who are coming into this country and give them a real way to get here and acknowledge the problems we have of the border. >> shannon: everyone acknowledges the problems exist, the solutions that can't seem to agree on. thank you both. patriotic pandemonium. check this out. >> one nation, under god. >> shannon: that after the minnesota city council decided to scrap the pledge of allegiance, it's a unanimous vote. the president weighs in, we are going to talk to the city's mayorn

let me bring in michael steele for john boehner and donna edwards.lieve that joe biden is simply not up to the task with grappling with these issues? >> first of all, i think it's too early in the campaign to tell who is up to the task of grappling with those issues or being president of the united states. >> do you think cory booker not to say what he said? >> i do think joe biden has to do a reset on his campaign when it comes to having a conversation about race, injustice, about the criminal justice system and about his record. i think there are other candidates who have to answer questions about their record on some of these issues as well. i mean, we have seen the difficulty, for example, that mayor pete buttigieg has had on the campaign trail when it comes to race. but, you know, for democrats, i don't know that this is the end of a conversation that we want to have within the democratic party, especially when you have the challenges of a president of the united states who every single day either says something that's racist or miss only tpheuf

former speaker of the house john boehner now lobbies for the marinol the marijuana industry but theyell you it's better for alcohol, may be. who cares? talk about missing the point. try having dinner with a 19-year-old who is smoking weed. passive, flat, trapped in their own head. do you want that for your kids? of course not. why are leaders pushing it on us? you know the reason. they don't care about us. when you care about people, you do your best to treat them fairly. our leaders don't even try. they have jobs, contracts, scholarships, slots at prestigious universities based purely on how they look for nothing less fair than that. our tax code does come close. under our current system, the american who works for a salary pays about twice the tax rate than someone who is living off inherited money, who does live at all. we tax capital at half the rate we tax labor. it's a sweet deal if you work and finances. many of the rich people do. in 2010 for example, mitt romney made about $22 million in investment income. he paid an effective federal tax rate of 14%. for normal upper-middle

we saw how difficult a time speaker john boehner and paul ryan had in trying to keep house republicans together in order to maximize their ability to push legislation and actually own the political debate. we're seeing speaker pelosi have the same trouble here because she has a lot of ambitious young democrats, meaning young, that haven't been in the house that long. they have a different idea about how to get things done than she does. what pelosi is trying to do is protect her members in all of these swing districts that made the majority possible. >> dana: i'm glad you brought that up. >> that are not democratic. >> dana: in the piece -- >> representing voters -- >> dana: in the washington examiner you talked to a republican strategist in pennsylvania. he said this. from a strategic stand.when your enemies are self-destructing, leave them alone. that's the temptation the president too often succumbs to. the prospect of democrats coming up with a candidate weaker than hillary clinton, as hard to imagine as that might be, is very real. is that what your reporting has been telling you

. >> john boehner is all over this book, sometimes in amusing ways and one of the things he says in here, you're asking him about the republican party versus the party of trump, and he begins to say there is no republican party. >> yeah, and boehner would know better than anyone because he was this bridge between the old republican guard and this new era of republican politics. and it's so interesting because boehner was a guy not to do the full history, it's quite fascinating when he came into congress in 1990, he was the hell raiser, the tea party before the tea party existed and a group of these renegade congressmen, they ferreted out the corruption, they got indictments, they were serious trouble ma troublemakers and they tortured the establishment and as his career progressed and he climbed the ranks he became something of an institutionalist, when he saw the tea party in 2010, and they took the majority in 2011, he knew this was trouble and he could see that this wave was sort of cresting and he didn't know who was going to ride it. he certainly didn't think it was going to be his

john boehner set the tone of. after after that segment. neil: everybody should sing. you know, you have one issue at a time. charles: thank you very much, neil. good afternoon, everyone, i'm charles payne. this is "making money." breaking now, president trump has a supporters, when he disavowed the sender back chant after last night's rally. senator rick scott and congressman andy biggs will weigh in. netflix shares are sinking after the company revealed subscribers are leaving amid higher prices. microsoft looks to solidify its place as a trillion dollar company, the most valuable one in this country. they report earnings after the bell. we'll have earnings scorecard and message for this market. emotional testimony from a man who lost his family in a boeing 737 ethiopian crash, it continues to resonate. >> boeing and their apologies wants to shift scrutiny from their single-minded quest for short-term profit for safety. charles: is this a wake-up call for all captains of capitalism, there should be limits in pursuit of profits or should it be business as usual? i wil

and john boehner, republicanub eaker of the house, 20 years of house of representatives, freed of all obligations, said in 25 years in the house, never once in all the years worked on it did the republicans ever come up with a single healthcare plan, and he's absolutely right. ensus was never a co republican healthcare plan. there wasea minute 2017, 2013, 2019. so the point was the democratsat can't give it away. this is their issue.. they are the ones who were fightingro toct pre-existing condition for voters. >> woodruff: andr you're sayinb that's whnie sanders -- - >> i think that's exactly what democrats do. you talk about winning the states david mentioned, thoseen are the states the two have strong labor union membships. labor unions have wonor their member schist, auto workers,, steel, they've won grea healthcare plans.la you start the election by sayinn we're going to get rid of thesee 170 million americans, you' not going to have it, you're going to have a better system. come on, is this l+2sr:urh and plausible? >> it's striking but the fervor with sanders, it strikes me this

and what we're seeing here, it reminds me of john boehner and paul ryan, the problems they had on anythinga split in her party, it's usually the liberal wing that is now winning and refusing to give the requisite votes, and it's hamstringing her ability to govern. paul: yeah, it's fascinating, jason. it's ocasio-cortez has -- [laughter] and others have learned the lesson of the freedom caucus, right? >> right. paul: which is if you go outside and agitate, you gin up support on the left, the rachel maddows and the others on msnbc and social media, you can i put real pressure on the speaker to go your way. >> sure. and nancy pelosi knows that it is not the election of people like ocasio-cortez that gave democrats the house majority, and that's her dilemma. she would much rather focus on issues like health care which she thinks helped democrats win back control of the house. she has a bunch of members that come from swing districts, they want to go back home and run on something. and the problem is you have the ocasio-cortez wing of the party who wants to focus on impeachment and the mueller

. >> tim, i spoke with john boehner yesterday about the republican parties lack of condemnation.mr. speaker, while we have you, do you recognize this republican party? >> well, it clearly has changed in the year since i left. >> it's changed. >> understandable -- >> he kind of sounds like, yeah, no biggie. >> i have to tell you, i was shook to my core watching that speech, watching the video of that speech on social media with the send her home, and i hate to continue to be disappointed. it's just like deja vu all over again. i do not know how you can watch that, a rally that looked like the worst of a victor orabon rally in hungary or marine la pen rally and not stand up and say, we need to preach to our higher -- our better angels here. patriotism, you can argue for patriotism, and argue for conservative policies, patriotism does not mean we're sending someone back that is a refugee. in america, we welcome refugees, this is what ronald reagan's announcement speech of his campaign and his final speech in the white house was about welcoming immigrants. these used to be compatible

speaker john boehner has been in the exact position that nancy is pelosi has been in, and you calledresswoman joy ya pole is talking about progressive power over overall democrat power. this in-fighting suggests that the base sees an opportunity to take much as the tea party conservatives did over john boehner, more moderate republicans, an opportunity to take over nancy pelosi. posely being pilaried, no democrat woman has done more for that party historically. she has taken back power twice in history, and they are really taking -- this is even bigger than taking on john boehner. if they should succeed in these 2020 democrat candidates out on the trail and at these debates are showing what impact they're having, it is going to be a very significant election if one of the takeaways is a threat that nancy pelosi's power. >> i gotta bring it back quickly to mainstream america. this is what is going on on twitter and facebook, is in the conversation in middle america that's happening at dinner tables. talking to individuals when we go to diners, i just don't think it is. they're worried