paul ryan, john boehner among them in the past. you speak to many sitting republican lawmakers today. you speak to lawmakers who know it's a lie, right? that trump won the election. they know it's a lie that it wasn't trump supporters that stormed the capitol. how do they explain accepting that and not standing up to the lie? how do they explain it to you? >> i think that's what got liz cheney in trouble, she's making them confront it. it's not that they want to debate the merits of it. no one is going to really argue with you -- wants the argue the facts with you. that's what makes liz cheney's stand so great. it is not that she's going out and saying hyperbolic things about donald trump and calling him names. she is just saying things that are obviously true. and republicans main message at this point is let's move on. they don't want to talk about it. it's not because they don't want to talk about donald trump. it's because they don't want to talk about their role leading up to january 6th. >> but the move on thing -- the move o

up next former house speaker john boehner reflects on his political career and the future of the republicanith his new book "on the house." former democratic senator carl levin of michigan talks about his experience serving in the senate for 36 years. >>> john served as the 53rd speaker of the united states house of representatives. from january, 2011 to october, 2015. during his tenure he led the drive for the less costly and more accountable federal government. he grew up in a large roman catholic family inca southwesten ohio and attended an all male high school in cincinnati before earning a degree in business from xavier university. he then took a job at a plastics company news site sales where he eventually became president. in 1984 he was elected to be the ohio house of representativesan and remained in office until his election to the u.s. house of representatives in 1990. he represented the eighth congressional district of ohio in the house from 1991 to 2015. the senior strategic advisor for the policy forums. his appearance with us this afternoon is fortuitous given the enormous no

i mean, hey, john boehner -- wait actually, wait a second.ted, honey, if you're watching, that's the stain i want for the back deck okay hey! john boehner, all of a sudden you have advice for republicans? you know what would have been a good time for that when you worked with them every day. you regret not working with obama on immigration reform? well, he was right there the dude was dying for somebody to work with him you think he wanted to have lunch with joe biden every damn day? jill doesn't even want that. here's a good rule of thumb. write a book if you have useful information for me but if you want me to listen to all your regrets, pick up an acoustic guitar. and hey, you think the republican party's been taken over by wack jobs? you tell the story in your book of the time alaska representative don young held a knife to your throat you can't act like republicans turned crazy after you left. what do they have now, bigger knives and hey, don't try to ingratiate yourself with liberals by saying you also hate ted cruz that doesn't make yo

i think we are getting speaker john boehner back. welcome back, sir. we understand your having bad weather on the other coast. >> guest: no bad weather. we had a little blink in the lights and my wi-fi went out, sorry about this but it happened. >> i think ted cruz did it. let me ask if you could handpick a republican presidential candidate for 2024 who would you choose and why? >> i try to stay out of the hypothetical questions. there will be a lot of good people running. i am a fan of christie gnome, former house member from south dakota, now she is the governor of south dakota and, a hard worker, the fine line between various factions, america has been blessed because we are to party country like europe where you have 12 political parties and nobody can get the majority. we have a 2-party system, because of that within the parties, we have traditional republicans, and trip republicans, not always on the same page but a pretty good line between these factions. it is very attractive. >> is our 2-party system in jeopardy? are we watching the emergence

their insights on this important story, dana bash and the former top aide to republican speakers john boehnernd paul ryan, brendan buck. liz cheney is daring them to do this. telling the truth, and saying, fine, kick me out. >> he's trying to make a larger point, larger than her own political viability, at least in the short term. that is, this isn't about whether or not i can stay in my job. this isn't necessarily about whether republicans can win back the majority in 2022. this is about the intentions and the intentionality of the long-term viability of the republican party. it cannot be based on everybody grabbing onto something that is a flat out, full on lie. and doing so, because the man who is still the head of the party, the former president donald trump, and his pals in the conservative media, are perpetuating that lie. it's a whole self-fulfilling prophecy that those republicans are engaging in while she's standing up and saying, no, part of the reason why everybody is latching onto the big lie is because of their own politics, because they want to keep their seats, or perhaps get t

you worked at a top aide to both paul ryan, john boehner.you think about what she is doing and the impact it's going to have on the party? >> well, it appears at this point that she knows her days are numbered. i can't read any other way into this. she know there's is going to be a vote called next week. i think she realizes she's probably no longer a good fit. but she is not going make this easy on them. what i love about what she's doing, she's not going into hyperbole or saying crazy things about donald trump. she's simply saying clearly obviously true things and it just makes her colleagues squirm and it makes them uncomfortable and she's making them confront uncomfortable truths, not just about donald trump, but about themselves. i think that's where this is really coming to a head. it's not that she's criticizing donald trump. it's that she is making them confront a role that they all played leading up to january 6, what they said about the election being stolen. everybody in the house republican conference save maybe ten people want t

. >>> brendan buck was a top aide to former house speakers paul ryan and john boehner. and ron brownstein is back. brendan, let me begin with you. it's not a complicated vote today. why would republicans vote for it when it could yield nothing but bad information for them just on the cusp of the midterm election? >> yeah, tbad information about donald trump and bad information about their own roles leading up to it. look, we can talk about how they are trying to avoid a midterm surprise right before the election. we can talk about donald trump's sway over the party. i think both of of those things are a big factor in what's taking place. but what you've just been talking about is actually, i think, the much more troubling aspect. what republican senators were doing voting against this commission was reflecting their constituents. this was an easy no vote for them. their constituents -- there's a poll out this week that shows most republicans think that that riot was led by left-wing activists trying to make donald trump look bad. this is the reality a lot of voters have

. >> the most laughable thing is when john boehner and cheney tried to cloak themselves in the mantle of reagan conservatism. >> something worthy of being the party of lincoln and the party of reagan, those are the sort of aspirational set of policy ideals and agenda we have to present to the voters. >> just imagine reagan trying to help the chamber of commerce moves over to china or imagine reagan denouncing the gop base or pandering to the mainstream press and when did reagan for whom i worked support keeping troops in the middle east forever? her dad was gerald ford's chief of staff so the cheney family opposed reagan in 1976. the dinosaurs didn't know when their extinction was at hand and needed to these people but it is high time that house leadership right it's ship and scrape off the barnacle of the bush cheney era and do it once and for all. here's a novel concept. actually appoint someone to leadership who likes republican voters. that is the angle. joining me as mark meadows, former trump white house chief of staff and former congressman, why did leadership make this decisio

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up next former house speaker john boehner reflects on his political career and the future of the republicanith his new book "on the house." former democratic senator carl levin of michigan talks about his experience serving in the senate for 36 years. >>> john served as the 53rd speaker of the united states house of representatives. from january, 2011 to october, 2015. during his tenure he led the drive for the less costly and more accountable federal government. he grew up in a large roman

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joining me to discuss ana navarro, and a top aide to john boehner. i hate to ask that question. boy, i don't want to know. good evening to both of you. brendan, you saw the body camera footage. the video doesn't lie. are these republicans going to have to come clean about the horror of that day? >> no. i think they're running away from it. not just because it's uncomfortable to watch or because it's uncomfortable for donald trump. it's uncomfortable because so many of them were saying things leading up to january 6 that enabled that day. so many of them that were the ones that were questioning the outcome of the election. so yeah, they all want to move on from it. obviously it's not so simple. one of the things i find so maddening about the whole let's move on phrase is that donald trump isn't moving on either. donald trump continues to talk almost every day now about how the election was stolen and that's why it's so important, i think, that liz cheney has decided she's not giving up on this. whenever he speaks out she's going to keep fighting back. that's what is so great. it

brendan buck is with me as well, former top aide to john boehner. thank you for joining me. br brandan, you. tomorrow senate republicans will likely kill any hope of the january 6th commission. it could be their first filibuster. if that happen, does that mean the party is not willing to defend our democracy? what does it mean? >> first of all, i think it means the effort that has taken place to whitewash what has happened has been remarkably successful. there is a poll out that shows a majority of republican voters believe that the riot on january 6th was left by left wing agitators trying to make donald trump look bad. this is the reality that so many republicans are living in right now. so this actually, in a sad way, is an easy vote for republicans to vote no. the voters are hearing from back home think this is all an effort to take on donald trump. it is a party that unfortunately has become held hostage by the base but also a strain of the base, an anti-intellectualism and anti-reality that doesn't allow to us look the truth in the face. so this will end up being an ea

cnn senior political analyst kirsten powers and brandon buck, a former top aide to paul ryan and john boehner. good evening to both of you. i mean here we go again. what is -- kirsten, what is ron johnson doing? >> you know, i -- i -- >> you're at a loss for words? >> he's another person whose head i cannot get inside of. but it really is -- this whole thing is just completely horrifying and depressing really. earlier when i was watching the replay, you know, as we've seen it so many times of what happened on january 6th, and really just sitting back and thinking, wow, the republican party really thinks that this doesn't need to be investigated. it's just -- it's just incredible to try to get your mind around that, that they are actually willing to not only get to the bottom of it in terms of holding people accountable, but don't even seem to want to prevent it from happening again, despite the fact that you have the mother of somebody who was killed going around and meeting with them, and they're not moved by it because it's all political. and for some reason, this can't be tolerated by the

cnn global affairs analyst susan glasser and brendan buck, the former top aide to paul ryan and john boehner. good evening to both of you. susan, matt gaetz, marjorie taylor greene telling their supporters that they want to hear -- what they want to hear tonight. watch this. >> all right. i just got to check something. i just want to make sure i'm in the right place. tell me who is your president. >> donald trump! >> that's my president too. okay. i just wanted to make sure i was with friends and family. >> we have never abandoned trump, and he has never abandoned america. he is still fighting for us. he will continue to fight for us, and we're going to have his back when he does. >> susan, this is crazy. this is madness. this is from one lawmaker under investigation for alleged sex trafficking and another who has pushed qanon lies. how are republican leaders not putting a lid on this? >> don, you know, they're on the same side at this point, the republican leaders. i'm getting some real cult of personality vibes from that rally, which of course has been the entire trump political phenomenon

political commentator amanda commentator, and brendan buck, the former top aide to paul ryan and john boehnerthis is really important stuff, and, you know, amanda, i've made the commitment on the show to continue to talk about the insurrection and what happened on january 6th because it is important to our democracy. several republican senators, including john thune and mike rounds are admitting tonight that they're going to vote against the january 6th commission because it's not good for the 2022 campaigns. amanda, people died. voters were brutally assaulted. our capitol was ransacked and they're not even pretending to care about anything besides the next election. what the hell? >> i mean i think you have to call this what it is. we are watching the cover-up of the big lie in all the deadly, dangerous, consequences of it. you know, this was always going to be a tough vote for these republicans because a vote for the commission is essentially a vote to investigate themselves, or at least their colleagues. and i was very surprised at how upfront that john thune was, saying that he didn't wan

this will be the biggest shake-up since john boehner, the house speaker, abruptly decided to step aside in 2015. this happening in the middle of the term. it's going to happen pretty quickly. >> my gosh, manu, thank you for all these fast-moving developments. >>> with us now we have anchor of "inside politics" on sunday abby fphillip and mark mackinno. mark, isn't this interesting to look at this divide. elise sstefanik, she was recently a rational romney-style republican, and then she found her way to the crazy conspiracy caucus and started peddling the big lie, et cetera. i think that's what we're seeing in the republican party as a whole, but you tell me. >> i wouldn't say that stefanik found her way. it's like she lost her way. i feel like i'm witnessing the death of the republican party, at least as i've known it in my lifetime. liz cheney is twice as conservative as stefanik, the only reason why the post is being taken away from cheney is she's one of the few republicans with the remaining backbone that will stand up and tell the true about what happened on january 6th. that's the

. >> stephen: mika, you're giving off real john boehner vibes tonight with that red wine.man these days. yeah, long book money, got him on the cab'. so, listen, y'all, we've talked many times over the years, over the last four harrowing years. we're quickly approaching the hundredth day of the biden presidency. how's your job been different with 100 days of a new pres'? >> well, it's nice not to wake up and feel like you have to put on a suit of armor wondering where it's going to come from and in what capacity, twitter or whatever. >> stephen: doesn't it feel weird that biden hasn't called you guys losers, though? don't you feel unfulfilled? >> ( laughs ) i know! >> i was thinking, biden hasn't accused me of being a murderer. >> stephen: i'm so sorry. >> but we've got three and a half years left. it could happen. it's a little different. but, you know, it's been so fascinating, because biden, everybody thought he was going to be like f.d.r. or maybe truman parallels, but he's-- he may be turning into really a transformational president. and a lot like reagan who always go

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>> as i think john boehner said a leader without followers is just taking a walk in the woods by themselves in some way you can say that liz cheney is about to take a walk in the woods by herself. i think she's standing on principle in this moment, as it resulted from the events of january six. i think there is always a question to be had for somebody who comes to politics well informed with an intelligence that took them all the way to the united states congress to say, what took you so long to recognize the threat of donald trump? what did you do to enable this man that actually was able to capture the republican party? but she's making the right decision in the minds of a lot of people in this moment, i think the question is what comes next for like liz cheney. she will remain a republican but she will be on that lonely side of the aisle within the republican party. i have been there, i know it. i think the broader question is where does she go from here? it doesn't appear that there is a viral bullet party that could emerge from this. liz cheney will stay within the party and will be a

he tried to to be speaker an john boehner stepped down and they refused to give him the votes.rking to stay in the good graces of not just centrist and more moderate but also conservatives and trump allies and this is one of the reasons why he has kept trump very close over the years. he knows trump is popular with the base. if he defends him it sticks with him his chances to become speaker are higher. and i think mccarthy is looking at 2022. republicans have a very good shot at flipping the house. i'd think he'd be shocked if they do not all the headwinds are in their favor and that means he's going to have another try to be speaker. obviously members of the conference want to stick with trump. the thing here is that republicans are showing over and over again that they only will allow certain voices. while they're talking about censorship if they go after her did again from the leadership, this is going to be a big distraction trying to flip the house in 2022. and they're going to send a message that they only want a certain type of republican, forget about that big tent. >>

>> i think i'm in the john boehner camp -- i think what he said, i'd rather set myself on fire.'m happy to help others, e andct i am on two groups that hp women republicans get elected. and i also work with state legislators. so, here in virginia, harold pion who is a korean/american l candidate who isik running ine t northern virginia, he is the kind of candidate who i'd like to see get into office in virginia. nick clemente who is running ud also in northern virginia has been out knocking on doors. and he's somebody who understands we need to turn the focus on the kitchen tha table issues of our dates th constituents. and so when i see candidates like that, and there are also ti some womens candidates that i now already working with in congress. so that's a type of -- and i'm a happy to help them. d it was a privilege to serve. i served for about a decade in both state and congress. i worked in congress for years. but i think there are other ways you can serve your community. i continue to serve on charitable boards and work on k issues that i'm passionate abouf with businesse

>> john boehner once said a leader without followers is taking a walk in the woods. i do think she is standing on principle in this moment as it resulted from the events of january 6th. i think there is always a question to be had for somebody that comes to politics well informed with an intelligence that took them to the united states congress to say what took you so long to recognize the threat of donald trump. what did you do to enable this man that captured the republican party. the question is what comes next for liz cheney. she will likely remain a republican but will be on the lonely side of the aisle in the republican party. i have been there and i know it. i think the broader question is where do they go from here. it does not appear that there is a viable republican light party that could emerge from this. liz cheney will stay in the party. i imagine she will be a voice of conscious and reason but not a voice of leadership in today's republican party any longer. >> you saw mitch mcconnell going out of his way, referring to joe biden, referring to socialists

like so many other formers from john boehner to george w. bush, he hasn't spoken out that often, maybe a little bit more than those too. he did vote to certify the electoral college saying to his former republican colleagues and his caucus, please do not challenge it. there is a time where he does feel like he is going to speak out. he's going to give a speech telling -- talking about how he feels about how the party is in the wrong direction, the party should not be supporting donald trump anymore. he was invited to speak to the reagan library. this is a new series that reagan library is doing, a speaker series. he is the first. he decided to use that platform for this. it's kind of an interesting place to do it. i've not talked to any republican who thinks that ronald reagan who held up as the icon of conservatism would have anyplace in the republican party that we see today. >> yeah. that's interesting point. dan yashgs thank you for that reporting. >> overnight, a ninth victim, nine died after that deadly shooting at the rail yard in san

support and that this would be the biggest shake-upch republican leadership that we've seen since john boehner stepped down as the house speaker in 2015. >> manu, what does congresswoman cheney have to say? >> behind the scenes he's not moving to try to lock down support unlike in february in february when she survived an attempt to push her out. that time she spent time on the phone explaining her vote to impeach donald trump and eventually won a vote pretty easily in the house republican conference. this time she's not doing that. she's saying privately she's telling her allies she won't lie or stay quiet in order to keep her post and one person familiar with liz cheney's thinking told me earlier today that she's fighting this larger battle that's for the soul of the party and preserving the foundations of our democracy, so she sees exactly where this vote is headed. her voice will be heard in the hours and days to come, but she's making it clear here that she accepts what's going to happen and will argue why the president and his team are wrong by arguing the election was stolen. jake. >> b

michael steele, a former advisor to republicans like john boehner and jeb bush and alice stewart, a republicanformer communications director for ted cruz. we're grateful to have you both. thank you for joining us. i want to get your reaction to liz cheney doing this media circuit on her way out of leadership. she's calling out donald trump, kevin mccarthy, saying we have to save the party. the reality is, the majority of republicans don't think the. party needs to be saved from donald trump? >> let me just say, boris, liz cheney is 100% in everything she just said. we need to stick to the truth. we need to stick to policy. i've supported everything she's said with regard to we have free and fair election that's joe biden won, donald trump lost. we should not have had the insurrection. we should not have challenged the outcome of results. but the truth is, in her position of leadership, she needed to focus on taking our fight to joe biden and not litigating her fight with donald trump. and that is why she is no longer in the position. but i do expect with the new leadership under elise stefanik

back in 2015 when john boehner had enough of the extreme right wingers taking over and packed it in, kevin tossed his hat into the ring and the very next he went on fox news and told the truth for once. >> everybody thought hillary clinton was unbeatable, right. we put together a benghazi special committee, a select committee. what are her numbers today? her numbers are dropping. why? because she's untrustable but no one would have known any of that happened have we made something good. >> i give you credit for that. >> seems like he could have used someone else pulling the strings. >> the next week he dropped out saying that comment wasn't helpful. probably not. also not helpful. rumors than alleged extramarital affair derailed that bid. a gop colleague circulating a letter calling on members with misdeeds to step aside. a gop donor was e-mailing threats to expose mccarthy and then colleague of north carolina. at the time, kevin denied that personal issues led to his decision to drop out. it seemed that some of in the republican circle didn't think he was fit to lead back then which

as liz cheney is, we have not seen a shakeup from the house republican congress like this when john boehnerbruptly resigned his speakership. that's what's going to happen here. liz cheney is out because of her calling out donald trump and she's not going down quietly, expect more pushback on donald trump's claims in the days ahead. >> so as you watch this play out, lthe books are cooked, if you will, the fix is in to make her the new number three, introducing herself to the country and to maybe some in the party who don't know her. go on the podcast of steve bannon, pardoned by the former president because of ethical and legal questions about his behavior and listen to alee stefonik, she's for trump. >> i fully support the audit in arizona, we want transparency, and answers for the american people. what are the democrats so afraid of. the american people deserve transparency. we want to fix our election security and election integrity. >> the votes were counted in arizona, opportunity to do a recount the way the laws work, the republican party used to be the party of law and order. and now

. >> i was thinking about the ouster of former john boehner. he stepped down under pressure from hard line republicans. do you see what happened today as an evolution of what started then, or is this really different? >> it's really different, i think. i hadn't thought about it in those terms, but cheney went through a vote and was confirmed again just a couple months ago as the house republican conference chair. boehner was pushed out because they thought he was too weak in negotiating with barack obama, the president at the time. liz cheney is talking incessantly and frequently about donald trump, a president of their own party, and frankly, what republicans say is she's not representative of the republican conference at whole. frankly, she's not. the republican conference as a whole is undyingly faithful to donald trump. some are saying there was not an insurrection at all. this is about not acknowledging, or acknowledging, in cheney's case, a political rally that no one else wants to acknowledge. >> congresswoman cheney, when she was speaki

>> i started when they did have them and credit john boehner for having the guts to have leadership and get rid of them. earmarks are the sugar that makes the garbage go down and it is fundamentally and totally wrong. we need to cut spending in this country not creative ways to spend things. almost everything on that list that you were scrolling through has no business being funded by the federal government. when i was in congress, one of our republican senators here in utah tried to fund a parking lot in provo. that's not the role of the federal government. it is also not the role and responsibility of the people of florida to fund that parking lot. just like i don't want to put sand on their beaches in florida. if i live in utah. let's figure out a way to cut spending. this is the tool, this is the enticement that leadership uses to get people to vote for bad bills. >> harris: people look at the list and say there are good things on there. the museum in brooklyn, so on and so forth. with all the tax bases where some of those are particularly jersey and new york can't the states take c

that was john boehner, the future speaker of the house. bret? >> bret: we will discuss this with the panel as well. thank you. a federal judge says the justice department must release a 2019 memo clearing then president trump of obstruction charges at the end of the mueller investigation. parts of that document have already been revealed. the department had argued that the full memo should be withheld. but the judge, who was appointed by president obama, says then attorney general william barr was being disingenuous. the centers for disease control finds itself under the microscope again tonight over the administration's use of guidance it received from a teachers union about school reopenings. this, as a judge is overruling the agency's eviction moratorium. still president biden is on a full-court press for his next spending plans. white house correspondent kristin fisher has details. >> did you guys order anything? >> president biden making a surprise trip wednesday morning to a d.c. tacoriaa. spend $29 million of direct aid to restaurants foo

income earners, republicans unanimously stood in opposition to that with republican house speaker john boehner0 years earlier about bill clinton's tax increases and i had a chance to discuss both the obama and clinton tax increases with newt gingrich on "meet the press" in 2012. >> the problem for boehner is how does he give rates? i oppose tax rate increases because tax rate increases cost american jobs. that gives you to room to give on rates. it is, by the way, not an original thought. who said this? the tax increase will kill jobs and lead to a recession and the recession will force people out of work and on to unemployment and actually increase the deficit. that's newt gingrich in 1993 on the clinton tax increase and those of us who were working on the other side of that tax increase, newt, have been waiting for your apology for 20 years for being completely wrong with that. >> i don't agree with you. >> the economy soared and nobody lost a job. >> bologna. >> you see the recession, there was no recession. >> joining us is jason johnson, professor of politics and journalism and my politic

you have a house republican conference in which 50% of them never served a day with john boehner, wholf years ago. and all of the newcomers are mimicking what they saw and to them they saw donald trump, wow, he was successful, that is how he did it, so they're almost behaving that way. but the state lawmakers, florida -- republicans won. >> texas, they won. >> trump had the biggest margin in 2020 of any republican, i believe this century. what went wrong in florida. your point about a solution in search of a problem, they won, they won the house races, they won the state legislative race and they're still trying to change the law even though they did great there. >> and speaking of florida. down in mar-a-lago, former president trump is playing golf but spending time trying how to defeat other republicans. this is extraordinary. of the people who voted for impeachment, ten out of serve house members who have been censured or rebuked, six out of the seven senators who voted for impeachment have been censured or rebuked by their state and local parties. this war has been won. what is don

mccarthy has obviously watched john boehner go down in the face of tea party acre -- activism and hard liners and he thought he had successfully co-opted the right wing of his party. get them on board. that as always been his main worry. he didn't have to worry so much more about these moderates you have to win in tough districts. >> right. >> and so that calculous is now scrambled because of the way donald trump is welding power in this party. it's strictly on the basis of fear, right? it's not as though donald trump has more levers than that, all he has is threats to deploy himself against people, chuck? >> it was so anti clamatic today. speed. it was almost if they wanted to hurry up and get this behind them as if they're embarrassed for what they're doing. for whatever reason nobody seems to be wanting to celebrate this vote, which i think tells you they know deep down what they're doing here is probably not a good thing. >> they didn't want to go on the record, chuck, and that surprised some members of the house of republican conference. kevin got up. he said a few words and then

brendan buck is a former advisor to john boehner and paul ryan. brendan, i'll start with you, is this a civil war inside your party, or right now is it simply a purge? >> it feels a lot closer to a purge. i wish there were bigger -- two bigger sides you need to have a civil war. the reality is liz cheney -- i obviously support what she is doing -- is representing a really small, vanishingly small part of the republican party. what i think is important about what liz cheney is doing, she is obviously making a moral argument. but she's also making a political argument that you don't hear too much these days. she's arguing that we can't continue to lose those suburban voters, those swing voters who were so important to our coalition. >> dan crenshaw got uncomfortable when you started asking him these questions. i don't doubt that he never gets asked about it. so much of the republican party is so focused only on conservatives. there's a cost to that. we're losing voters that are really important to us. in those suburbs, those educated voters. she's t

the party of paul ryan, john boehner, mitt romney. that mask is off. it's now this. matt gaetz and margie q. kicking off their super spreader tour where they're expected to highlight their deep loyalty to the leader. it's also kevin mccarthy, the house minority leader, who has sworn so much allegiance to trump that he's affectionately known as this. >> chairman mccarthy, where's kevin? there's my kevin. our kevin. do we love kevin? what a job. >> that's why "my kevin" is working to purge the republican leadership of elected lawmakers who won't kiss the ring on trump's baby-sized finger, to secure power for himself, for kevin mccarthy, not for anybody else, should republicans win control in next year's elections. joining me now is republican strategist susan del percio and fernand amanti. susan, the greatest trick the republicans have pulled is to convince working class people that they have any interest in them. my father was a republican. they were about tax cuts for the rich, tax cuts for big corporations, and deregulating oil and big business. that's it. to show y

colleague carl hall wrote a piece about the last time somebody was ousted like this which was john boehner it was '98 he was ousted from leadership and of course he hung around for 10, 15 years and then became speaker again. so does she have that -- if she could hold on to her seat? >> and is that what she believes, obviously, that there will be an opportunity for the republican party to turn around. but that just wishful thinking. >> she seems to be playing a long game. because short-term she could have run for senate. there are all sorts of things liz cheney could have done and she chose to stay in the house, so it seems like this is where she wants to be if she could hold on to that seat. and that -- boehner is where my head went. >> yeah, she's kept open the option of running for president but could she win in a base that is just dominated by the former president, and win a primary. it is hard to see that. who knows. but it is so hard to see that. >> this is not just liz cheney in a vacuum. this is also about trump. just listen to kevin mccarthy, the return of dear leader even with pre

ask john boehner and paul ryan how that worked out for them. this is not a guy you manage. this is a guy you extricate from your location. you put him offsite. you don't want him in your orbit. it's like the planet that shoots through the galaxy and bumps into other planets and disrupts things. these folks are thinking that all we need donald trump to do is raise us money, not primary us, and give us a clean bill of health with his voters, and we're good to go. there are consequences, dire consequences, real consequences that come with that, and you're seeing this play being played out as they're trying to eject from leadership one of the prominent, conservative leaders in the republican party for donald trump's sycophant. that's the party. >> it's like a cue ball that does not respect the laws of physics. >> exactly. >> michael steele, thank you very much, jake sherman, appreciate it. >>> coming up, derek chauvin wants a new trial. why his attorney claims the jury was both intimidated into a guilty verdict and committed misconduct. >>> later, a former aide to ukraine's pre

you want to look at a conservative party, pick up john boehner's book. this is a reactionary party built on both resentment and race. that is where the party is going. second, the other piece of this is you talk about an agenda. in 2020, there was no platform. there's no agenda. it's about donald trump, you know, parties exist for two reasons. set out a set of policy principles. they didn't have that in 2020. they don't have that. number two, to win elections. it took 90 years to bring a president to lose the white house, the house and the senate. this is about donald trump and his grievances and the other piece that makes no sense to me. you have an election. there are three things that both parties have. the republicans have redistricting, they have basically restricting voter access, and they are going to also have the ability in this area to cut off any part of history they have. democrats have an economy, a president with a job approval that's above 50% in the midterms that has not happened, and then the third piece on that, they have a popular agen

if you had a chance to read former speaker john boehner's book there's anecdotes about representatives saying i'm going to go around you and go on sean hannity show and explain to his millions of viewers why you're not standing up for conservative principles, and i think what we have seen is the influence that media has on the agenda for the republican party. i don't know -- if you have any sort of thoughts also the sharia law stuff that happened in the state level. there was -- some was performative in the sense that republican officials were using it to their advantage politically to stir up our scare voters and say thissing she we need to watch out for, this what we're going to do. but those were -- my understanding -- not an expert there but kind of symbolic mostly and never any real concern or any really needed to be addressed at all. >> i mean, the establishment caused -- fer bid is from ever applying religious law or any other foreign law in the united states. and antisharia bills say we're not going to apply foreign law. that's the text of them. we're not going to apply any for

out-of-control spending because remember, he was there when there were earmarks and then under john boehneruse they went away so he really does have good perspective on before and after, watch. >> earmarks are the sugar that makes the garbage go down and it's fundamentally and totally wrong, we need to be cutting spending in this country, not figuring out creative ways to spend things. >> harris: john james, now i understand why you and others want to get there and clean up the swamp. >> well, it's very easy to see exactly but this isn't legislating, this is campaigning, you had over 200 democratic legislators, over 100 republican legislators, all, it seems, intrinsically motor motivated to get reelected, a lot of the stuff they are spending it on is arguably good or bad depending on what side of the political spectrum you're on, but a lot of these projects are projects that should be handled at the lowest level, the private money level, the municipal level, the state level, i believe that most americans don't have a problem abiding by the u.s. tax code, they have a problem with the federal

it is necessary [indiscernible] senator mitch mcconnell, former speaker john boehner, and representative cheney and former president donald trump had ultimate responsibility for inciting the dangerous and deadly insurrection. in the meantime, that will not deter the committee from continuing its work. among other things, forming a security task force led by the lieutenant general and his distinguished team of experts, reviewing the council's recommendations to improve insecurity for congress, and working with various inspector general's on the issues within their jurisdictions. our committees work with inspector general's have included the other public hearings, and congressional committees to date with inspector general michael bolton. on wednesday, we will be pleased to hear directly from the inspector general about his first flash report on issues related to that agency. furthermore, a plan to call hearing to review an overarching issue about the departments position, organization, and oversight, including its relationship to the capitol police force and i intend to invite current mem

is necessary even though i agree with republicans like senator mitch mcconnell former speaker john boehner and representative cheney that former president donald trump bears ultimate responsibility for inciting dangerous and deadly insurrection. in the meantime, the committee will commit, continue its important work. today that work includes a review of the ig findings with respect to the agency's emergency preparedness as aoc has a long and important history and a serve congress in the nation for nearly 230 years. now, obviously, it is a much different agency with more significant responsibilities than when it was created in 1793. today, it is more than 2200 employees, for more than 18.4 million square feet of facilities more than 570 acres of ground and thousands of works of art. the agency plays an important role in the execution of the security infrastructure the numerous event that occur on the capitol campus which include installation of an enhance security perimeter and facilitation of enhance screening techniques. it supports infrastructure and essential functions of the u.s. capit

john boehner dropped the ball when he had his opportunity. >> look, it's going to make it really hard for all the republicans who said that they didn't vote for anybody or they wrote in, you know, a dead revered former republican. it's going to put them on the spot now that liz cheney has made this about the democracy being in danger. liz cheney has credibility with the people who did those things. my private conversations, and i still have a lot of them, with those who worry about the nation's security, who were white knuckled the last four years, there is still a lot of good they could do in terms of moderate republicans, independent republicans, swing voters, i think matthew would call them the kinds of voters that may not be registered in either party. >> absolutely. >> those people hearing from liz cheney if she can set off a domino effect where prominent former republicans hear from them, they maybe become biden republicans. i think the potential -- just watching president biden today, he has a super power of giving space and grace to people who do not deserve it. i've said this