thing like john boehner did and not put us in the lurch. mike johnson is the only one that can prevent what happened last fall without a speaker. he can acknowledge he's a lame duck, doing things we don't want and acknowledging he's not the man for the job and announcing his resignation and give us notice so we can replace him in conference. neil: let me come back, it comes back to the aid package that's cobbled together i'm not on the rules committee and i don't understand the process fully. i want to ask you about aid outright. to israel it seems like you're for it, ukraine, you're not, right? >> yeah, and a lot of conservatives are struggling with that aid to israel and the overall package because in order to get this bill to the floor, mike johnson had to agree to put $9 billion for gaza and some conservatives here are afraid that some of that will make its way to hamas and you know, that's the nature of this aid. that's a big problem. and when it gets to the senate, the way they've structured the rules for this, they're not going to be

mike massey said this is like a john boehner thing where he gets powered out.d to andy biggs on saturday. he said, i don't really see the point of this, hopping on board. we have only a couple of major priorities for the rest of the year. i think there are some conservatives who will probably see a challenge next year, but i think a lot of people are worried about u how it's going to impact them in november. >> i also think for music josh shapiro, he has problems in november, he doesn't have problems now. my problem is when he came to the speakership, we were reminded he was one of the architects of the way trump could have tried to overturn the election for congress. he's now the speaker of the house. he will have a prominent role in certifying the election results. how are democrats going to feel comfortable potentially saving his job come february if president biden were to lose? >> they think he's more of a straight broker. s he's very religious and believes in what he says. maybe marjorie taylor greene waits until june, which may have set a lot of her prag

. >> you know, whether it's mike johnson, kevin mccarthy, or paul ryan, john boehner. the caucus is -- they don't have a governing philosophy of trying for legislation. they have a philosophy, using the pools that the house offers to try to block legislation, to try to block anything positive for the country. and the senate is doing the same thing with the future. filibuster. our nation, this goes beyond, i think, having a slim majority and i think it goes-- just goes about what is their governing philosophy, and how they can implement that. and the frame work of our congress is delicate. unless there's a will to compromise, especially where we are. to get anything done. look the at current proposed legislation from the senate on the border and immigration, and that's being blocked and this is not new. if you go back 10 years ago to 2013 there was a gang of eight bill from the senate that the house killed and even when boehner was trying to legislate budget matters with president obama. and he wanted nothing-- just great and you can do that, but that really what was in

on social media johnson should do what former house speaker john boehner did i, quote, announce his resignationso far johnson has done the opposite. but the push to oust mike johnson is gaining momentum and adding to the dysfunction in the house. all while these republicans ban together to do the only thing they seem to agree on, impeaching homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas. joining me now is former lead impeachment manager of trump's second impeachment trial. it is so good to see you. i was thinking about the fact two weeks ago you and i were talking about the fact the impeachment seemed like it was reaching a dead end, and then i realized you and i been talking about the other politically motivated sham impeachment, the biden impeachment. the fact we have to choose among them tells you something about the republican agenda here. >> the mayorkas impeachment was the big consolation prize for the maga wing of the party that did not get the impeachment of joe biden they wanted. of course the mayorkas impeachment is lacking the central thing you need an impeachment constitutionally, w

like what john weiner did years ago -- john boehner did years ago. just three house members who support speaker johnson pushing this effort, we will see if they do anything today, later this afternoon, i anticipate other procedural gimmicks, trying to adjourn the house before they get to these bills which would not be successful, we assume, but a lot to get to in a rare saturday session of the house. >> julie, we will stay close to you as things develop. this is an important story for us to cover. >>> coming up, today's vote with the ranking member of the armed services committee, congressman adam smith. you are watching velshi on msnbc. nothing dims my light like a migraine. with nurtec odt, i found relief. the only migraine medication that helps treat and prevent, all in one. to those with migraine, i see you. for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults. don't take if allergic to nurtec odt. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nau

, brandon buck, he served as chief communications adviser for paul ryan and press secretary to john boehnern. the right wing freedom caucus is demanding steep concessions to rebuild the bridge in baltimore including any spending to be fully offset, will the republicans really play politics over something this vital to the nation's economy? >> the freedom caucus is making those demands and they will be ignored. at the end of the day, this is something that is absolutely going to happen. >> i mean, let's talk fund raising. the biden campaign right now has a huge money lead over the trump campaign. what should they be doing most, spending most of that money on, the biden folks? >> georgia. we know that the biden folks are in this game to win it. we know that the battleground states are shaping up very interestingly and some are a little bit too close for comfort. i would put georgia as number one. just because the recognition is that from the urban centers to the rural areas. there has to be boots on the ground and strong outreach to young people and black voters. this campaign is really sizin

pressure had risen throughout the conference, the freedom caucus made john boehner famous among conservatives. i don't know -- thomas massey talks about going home and having members feel pressure. i don't know your average voter knows who mike johnson is, let alone is passionate they will demand their members kick him out of office. i think johnson will be able to withstand desperate the reason i did not bring a ball up today and they are asking to resign is they do not have the vote to get rid of him but if they have the vote they would have done so. democrats will support hamburg you have a small number of republicans who are willing to do it. he is an an okay position for the time being. >> can i ask you about something that has stuck with me? he said dealing with the republican party was like herding cats. has anything changed? >> reporter: it has changed for the worse. the incentive structure is only devolving. the leadership structure, regardless of who the speaker is, has far less power than it ever did. all of these numbers can gain attention and fund raise. they don't need anything

whether it is mike johnson, kevin mccarthy, or john boehner, [indiscernible] they don't really have aoverning boss trying to pass legislation. they have a governing philosophy using the tools the house offers to try to block legislation and to block anything positive for the country, and the senate is doing the same thing with the filibuster. our nation, this goes beyond the slow majority. i think this just goes about what is there philosophy and how are they going to implement that? and the framework of our congress is delicate, and unless there is a will to compromise on both sides, especially when we come from different philosophies, nothing is ever going to get done, and you can look at the proposed legislation from the senate on the border and immigration, and this is not new. you go back 10 years ago to 2013, there was another thing that the house killed, and ruth bader was trying to legislate budget matters of president obama to get the conference in order, and they would just fight everything. if you want to do nothing, this is a great conference and you can do that. host: tha

democratic senator from missouri, and brendan buck, former press secretary for house speakers john boehner paul ryan. dana, this law in arizona is currently on hold for 14 days. arizona's a.g. has said she won't enforce it, so what is the impact being felt on this ruling so far? >> reporter: yeah, ana, it is sending shock waves throughout the state of arizona. many people angered, saddened on both sides. we spoke to voters who say that they will be galvanized, and this will impact them when it comes to november because they want their voices heard. there's a group now that is collecting signatures to try to get an amendment, an initiative on the november ballot so that they can try to codify reproductive rights in the state and many people say this will get them out to the polls because this is an issue they really care about. so right now the law is on hold because it's being sent back to the lower court. they will look for additional constitutional challenges, and then that's when the process starts. this could go in effect as early as 60 days, and a lot of people were confused about the

nbc's julie tsirkin is on capitol hill, brendan buck is a former aide to speakers paul ryan and john boehnert. julie, i understand the drama and infighting has boiled over on the house floor, one lawmaker threatening speaker johnson directly, but serious stuff needs to get done, so give us the lay of the land right now. >> reporter: this is what happened, chris. i got off the phone with congressman derrick van orden who members of the freedom caucus, in that tense group that you described aid that he threatened johnson calling him tubby while actually van orden told me literally moments ago that he was referring his comments to matt gaetz. he was telling the hard-liners to bring it on, facetiously meaning the motion to vacate because he is tired, he said, of the quote, cancer that has been spreading among the republican party in the house here. all of this, of course, happening in the context of the foreign aid funding fight, right? johnson right now is trying to pass separate bills to fund ukraine, to fund israel, the indo-pacific as well. those groups, the group of hard-liners this morning

i was with a mansion when john boehner said it was the biggest regret he ever had but there was also killed and most recently a bill crafted by the second most conservative guy in the senate. a guy i don't think -- i don't think anyone accuses langford of being a rino, he had a bill that would've aggress this and it got killed. >> john: i didn't see u.s. presidents calling on congress to fix the problem. i saw u.s. president is concerned that immigration is a big problem. >> sandra: and leadership because of that was the case of a birth a gang of 13 or eight we would be in a different situation then how do you explain how do explain when donald trump was president when he had executive orders which effectively slowed to a very slow crawl illegal immigration at our border? and building the wall and all the things he talked about ad nauseam. we saw the difference of one donald trump was in office to when joe biden undid those executive orders within minutes of taking office and ever since then it had been the delusion of illegal crossings that have now led to nearly every city, certain

now, joe was elbow deep in jalapeno poppers and talking to a construction cones is he thinks is john boehner. >> also true, but the relationship between the press and the president, trump was so acrimonious, you know, with hima calling him a racist russian traitor from day onellm , that e no showed the dinner for his entire term. >>hitire ter biden brought the y back saturday night, but had a hard tim ae breaking bread, literally breaking that piece of bread look challenging now. >> we didn't slow the tape downs at all. this is it regular speed. you'd think having i dinner with a thousand of your closest friends, an entire industry keeping you in officousand osesb be in a better mood. >> but biden just looked moet he had to eat salad. >> colin jost, who's marriedtt j to scarletohant johansson and wo does weekend update on saturday night live who. >> he was the emcee the last time i was in d.c. i lefty coca my cocaine at the white house. luckily, the president was ableo to put it to good use for his state of the union. >> colin had another good line . like many of you here tonight, l i preten

joining us now, former press secretary to house speakers john boehner and paul ryan.snbc political analyst, brendan buck. i got lost in my words there introducing you. i'm sorry. talk to me about the wire that speaker mike johnson is currently walking on. >> as ryan laid out, democrats paved a pretty clear path for him. the only problem with this is he's now relying on democrats not just to pass significant legislation but to keep his job. that's something we have never seen in probably a couple hundred years. the minority party elevating the majority speaker. look, donald trump gave mike johnson a pretty big lifeline on friday when he went to mar-a-lago and brushed back marjorie taylor greene but also said he didn't dismiss the idea of doing aid for ukraine. that gave mike johnson the narrow opening that he needs. very clear that the votes have always been there for ukraine, israel, taiwan, you name it. the votes are there. it's just whether or not johnson can figure out the moment to do it where he could jam this through and survive. i think that's what he's looking

. >> and john boehner said that the day before we had the popes speak and the floor, then each team to hci five the next day and said, i resigned percent respectively. why does he want me to listen to keep republicans are calling on well, i mean, right now, three is the magic number. >> if he called the motion to vacate, he's going to lose absent democrats saving him like they did today. but if they do that, he's really become tainted at that point. why is why is he tainted if democrats killed us on the first procedural vote because i don't think it's ever been done that democrats would save him. the question would then be the same question we have today, which is what did he trade we weren't in those negotiations that went on for hours while the rules committee was in recess day before yesterday what was he? the trading with the democrats in exchange to maintain power long enough to pass his foreign aid bill we don't know their and we won't know if he crosses down to get democrats i mean, by the way, this is something that kevin mccarthy could have done but did not do. he didn't cross

john boehner, who i like a lot and think is actually a good guy, looks back at his speakership and sayse immigration bill on the floor for a vote. maybe johnson has shown that you don't have to allow the marjorie taylor greenes of the world to lead this country around by the nose when it comes to fundamental questions of life and death, fundamental questions about how this democracy is going to show up. john, that would be a good thing for america if we were turning the page on that. credit to speaker johnson if that's what's happened. i also want to say that president biden has led extremely well, extremely resolutely from the day that putin invaded ukraine to begin with, from the day that the ukrainians were basically fighting putin off with their bare hands. joe biden was there to say we've got to organize nato and the western world. i just got back from south korea, from tokyo. in these places, they're all saying you guys better deliver on ukraine, because xi jinping is watching what you're doing. i think joe biden's leadership has helped in this season for the united states. >> it