thank you john brabender, john himes. president trump needs to realize if he breaks obamacare, he owns it. >>> the president has committed that no one will lose access to coverage, howie. >> then candidate trump said everybody's got to be covered, not, well, that's just an interesting number. >> well, chris, we're offering coverage to everyone. >> it means more people covered than are covered right now and at an average cost that is less. i believe we can firmly do that with the plan we laid out. >> now they'll be able to pick the plan they want, pick the doctor they want. they'll be able to do a lot of things the other plan was supposed to give and never gave. >> that was president trump and members of his administration defending of coverage under the president's proposed american health care act. the congressional budget office determined if passed, it would reduce the federal deficit but that 14 million would be uninsured by next year and 20 million by 2026. and colin powell said the pottery barn rule, you break it, y

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for more, i'm joined by jennifer palm areary and john brabender, a republican strategist. do you make of all this, john? i know what we always do or see happen in politics. you just try to say the other side has got a problem too so maybe you'll shut the whole thing down. what do you make of the charges here if anything? >> i think what people have to understand is we're now in an era where there's no such thing as governance in washington. we're only in perpetual campaigns. and what donald trump instinctively is doing is when he is attacked, particularly when he believes it's unfairly, he's going back to the tried and true things that happened in the campaign. he forces it back to the other side, and people start to muddy the water, and then we move on to a new issue. but let's make no mistake about this. the reason this exists is that the democrats don't really care about russia. they care about the 2018 elections. they don't care about getting to the bottom of this. they only care about pinning it on donald trump, and that's why we're in the environment we're in today.