about the damage that is caused and here's a perfect example obama's counterterrorism adviser john brennan recently made the claim that because of the exceptional proficiency the procession of the capabilities that we've been able to develop there hasn't been a single collateral. death for almost a year now the precision capabilities that he's talking about are use of unmanned drones to strike targets while the man or woman pushing the button so it's thousands of miles away not a single collateral debt that would be something wouldn't it so the problem is as the new york times documented as a day that it just doesn't seem to add up especially not if you read accounts from pakistani journalists or from british journalists now we told you just a few weeks ago about the new report from the british bureau of investigative journalism found that at least forty five people have died in ten strikes during the last year and of course you can say that you have to take any figures from pakistani officials with a grain of salt because it's in their interest to beat those numbers up but it's one thing

he's had his counter terrorism adviser john brennan here giving him updates throughout the day. and the white house as wolf pointed out telling us that the president after 9:00 tonight held a conference call with senior members of his national security team. i should point out we received a statement from the white house. this is a statement from president obama. i will read it to you now. tonight the momentum against gadhafi's regime reached a tripping point. tripoli is slipping from the grasp of a tyrant. the people of libya are showing that the universal pursuit of dignity and freedom is far stronger than the iron fist of a dictator. the surest way for bloodshed to end is simple. moammar gadhafi and his regime need to recognize their rule has come to an end. gadhafi needs to acknowledge the reality that he no longer controls libya. he needs to relinquish power once and for all. meanwhile the united states has recognized the transitional council as the governing authority in libya. at this pivotal and historic time the tnc should continue to demonstrate that the leadership tha

now, here is an image of him meeting with chief counterterrorism advisor john brennan, ed henry is live on martha's vineyard, massachusetts and the white house making it clear, this is a working trip, a working vacation. but the president is still finding some time to enjoy himself, right. >> reporter: no doubt about it, kelly. they're walking a fine line. they know the image can be bad and certainly in the middle of this struggling economy, they have to be very careful and that's why the images and the pictures we saw over the last 24 hours have been focused on family and the president going out to a bookstore with his kids, for example, and mentioned john brennan, a work situation, there on national security matters, but he also played golf and he was at a club where they don't allow cameras and that was probably politically beneficial for the white house and our cameras were able to get close enough, at least in the fwof cart, we didn't see him actually playing, but that's all about the image that they're concerned about, given some of the criticism out there, but i think what the pr

you saw that photo of the president with john brennan, and you are going to see that more probably and he will be briefed by the national security team and the economic team and one of the economic advisers in fact coming to the vineyard next week. they are being careful and i spoke to one historian who said it is important for the white house the show people that the president is on a working vacation, and not just on vacation. little bit earlier on "today" tamron the president was out at a bookstore with malia and sasha, his two daughters which was a little bit choreographed and we are told that he apparently bought eight books at the bookstore aalthough the bookstore owners would not tell us what he bought. and he had a meet and greet impromptu to shake hands and made supporters happy, but the people who shook his hand said it is about perception. take a listen. >> i think that a lot of your middle-class average folks come here for a vacation, and enjoy it. >> so, people certainly excited to see the president out and about. the president is now golfing. we don't expect to get any pi

not only from john brennan but also teams on the ground in libya. but again, they're being very careful because as one white house official described it, the situation there is fluid, an so they want to be careful about what they say. that's why the president was also careful when someone asked him a question tonight. take a listen. >> now the message from the white house remains consistent, that gadhafi's days are numbered and that the people of libya deserve a democratic and peaceful future. wolf? >> you know, dan, i just want to be precise. i could barely hear, the audio was not that great when the president answered that reporter's question as he was walking through that line. i'll read to our viewers precisely what the president said. he said, "we're going to wait until we get full confirmation of what is happening. i will make a statement when we do." that statement from the president. he's obviously leaving open the possibility, perhaps making a statement later tonight, maybe in the morning, maybe over the next few days. but it wouldn't be th

president is being briefed in martha's vineyard by one of his top national security officials, john brennan. but the u.s., of course, was initially slow to recognize the rebel government. this doesn't mean that all is good because there are concerns about their ability to control violence and to create a viable state. since recognizing them as the sole governing authority in libya and pouring money and weapons into the fighting for gadhafi, the reality for the u.s. is that the rebel leaders are now their only option. that said, lester, the rebel government has been torn by bickering among different factions and tribes. less than three weeks ago, their top military general was killed by some of their own fighters. it does raise questions about whether this transitional government can be trusted to create a broad-based government for the country. some intelligence experts are warning tonight that there could be prolonged violence ahead. lester? >> andrea mitchell from our washington bureau, thank you. >>> there is news tonight about the fate of two american men arrested by iranian authorities

that right now in the present our government is lying to us and using that to keep the wars going john brennan has come out and said that for the past year there is not been one collateral death in our drone strikes in pakistan that's just not the truth so you deflect you can say russia killed more civilians that person killed more civilians or you can realize that what we should be asking is why we're even there to begin with and that's your choice now lastly i want to respond to a viewer who commented on you to carry cocks to said republicans have balls but bad ideas democrats have good ideas but no balls and you know what if you alter that to some good ideas on the democratic side i couldn't agree more than fifty days ranting and i'll be back with more later this week. well by now we all know about two societies that exist side by side the small towns across america that are struggling to survive a wall street keeps raking in the big bucks in chattanooga tennessee is no exception to this growing divide he back in may the town was optimistic but a new one billion dollar volkswagen plant woul

the president will be receiving a briefing from john brennan, who is traveling with the president.tting frequent updates on the situation there over the last few days. while the administration has not said so publicly, this is no doubt a positive move, they see it, coming some six months after the president called for gadhafi to step aside, gadhafi digging in, defying not only calls from the west, but other allies, nato as well with the pressure has been ramped up. the white house is waiting to see what happens before the president steps in front of the camera. >> dan lothian, thanks. >>> washington is applauding the imminent fall of moammar gadhafi, but it will be a long road ahead for the libyan people. >>> if a new government takes over libya and the oil starts pumping again, what will happen to the price of your gas? we'll talk about that as well. n tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. because

yesterday, john brennan gave a significant speech at john hopkins announcing that the administration'socus is now shifting world wide to a counterterrorism strategy focused on this loose affiliation of al qaeda cells, and the intent is to block them from attacking us here in the homeland. that, i think, is the right focus. let's add one more thing. i said an airplane and that is less likely, but i am sure there are other ways -- and you will get to this -- otherwise where we can see a significant attack in this country. one of them is a dirty bomb attack. when me get back to this, i can explain what i think there is a real risk to them, which would be far more lethal compared to a conventional attack. >> let me turn to michael chertoff for a couple of things. i will get to the tsa, believe me. >> bring it on, as they say. >> i want to go to something that we were talking about before, this bin laden moment. i wanted to try to answer the question, are we safer because bin laden is dead, are we less safe, or is it irrelevant to our posture? >> i would not say irrelevant. first of all, ju

it was being briefed by his counterterrorism advisor, john brennan. then a little bit of family time. he stepped out with daughters malia and sasha. they went to a bookstore. they were chanting as he stepped out with his daughters and then he squeezed in a little bit of golf as well as date night with the first lady. again, the white house is making the point that mr. obama is also working. he's got answer lot of criticism. republican presidential candidate saying that this is not the right time. the unemployment rate is above 8% and the economy is really struggling. they say that he is working hard on that jobs plan which is he going to unveil as well as investing in construction projects. so we'll have to see how that plan turns out. but, again, he's gotten criticisms. white house officials pushing back hard against that. they also say he's a husband, a father, and they don't think the american people will begrudge quality time with the family. >> you mentioned the criticisms. what do we know about the number of vacation days that president obama ha

counterterrorism chief john brennan briefing mr. obama. [ applause ] >> reporter: and his first public outing took place across the street from where the media was already camped out. a bookstore in vineyard haven, where he, malia, and sasha, bought eight books. then, mr. obama held an impromptu meet and greet. later, no cameras were allowed when the president played golf but nbc news caught a few brief moments of him from afar in a golf cart. >> i think that's why you're going to see him take great pains to show that it's a working vacation, that he's not sort of goofing off. >> reporter: this, after a week that saw a jittery stock market. the president's approval rating for handling the economy dipped to new lows and job fares across the country that drew thousands of the nation's unemployed. >> i look for a job every day. every day for the past four months and no luck. >> reporter: in the days leading up to the trip, presidential candidates criticized the president for taking what they characterize as a lavish vacation when so ma

vacation, but he is getting briefed about this situation regularly by his counterterrorism advisor john brennan. then last night at 9:00 in the evening he had a conference call with some of his top advisors including his chief of staff bill daly, secretary of defense, chairman of the joint chiefs and several others. white house officials say the president will continue to get briefed about this situation today. a lot of people wondering if we're going to hear from president obama. at this point it's just not clear. white house officials say the president is not going to speak about this situation until they have 100% confirmation of what exactly is happening on the ground. getting information is quite difficult right now. some of the information coming out of tripoli is a bit murky. so again, no plans for the president to speak until the white house knows exactly what's happening inside of libya. one more note, contessa, pentagon officials say they believe it is quite likely that gadhafi is still inside of libya. the president, the white house monitoring this situation very closely. contessa, b

he is going to have a national security aide john brennan briefing him and making sure he is on top ofsecurity. the optics are very difficult for this president right now. the last thing they wanted was on the day that he lands here for the big dow dive because that certainly hurts on the optics. i think the comparison might be, look, people largely look the other day when george w. bush vacationed a lot. a lot more than this president by the way. it was relatively calm economic times. president bush's father h.w. bush was in awful economic times. weighs vacationing kenny bunk port near here and he paid a price in 1992. >> laura: think this news is what it is and you are in a place like martha's vineyard not like crawford texas, the rich and famous go there and hobnobbing. let's go to what happened in the campaign trail. bachmann and perry. bachmann promises low gas prices very low. perry getting hit by that mom who was coaching her child to ask questions about the age of the earth and so forth. perry tell us about it. >> perry picked up on it immediately. the young boy asked how old i

and then in person, with a national security briefing from john brennan, his counterterrorism adviserdent's morning shapes up. and then in the afternoon, he tries to have some fun time, if you will. but the focus really has been on what to do about fixing the ailing economy, and the president plans to after returning to washington from his vacation, roll out a jobs proposal, a jobs plan. that is something that he's working on here on the island. his advisers, who are here and those back in washington, also working on various deferent ideas. i'm told that this is still a work in progress, but that they are still making some progress, but it's, again, they will be working on it all of next week. one of the president's top advisers, economic advisers, will be coming here to the island, we're told, to give the president frequent updates on the economic situation. so, the president, again, working, but then trying to have a little bit of r&r as well. >> well, i've said it once, i'm going to say it again, great assignment if you can get it. cnn's dan lothian on martha's vineyard with the pr

president obama getting briefed by his counterterrorism advisor john brennan, and white house officials are saying that these briefings will go on throughout this trip. in fact, another advisor is going to fly in. then the president headed out. a bit of family time with daughters to buy some book. a lot of his supporters vacation in this area, so they were chanting four more years when mr. obama and his daughters stepped out. he shook some hands. he did play a little bit of golf as well. republican candidates have been hammering the president. they say he shouldn't be taking such a nice vacation. they say it's the wrong place at the wrong time. white house officials have really been pushing back against that type of criticism saying the office of the presidency really travel with mr. obama wherever he goes. they also point to the fact that he is hard at work, they say, on a jobs plan, which he will unveil in september. part of that plan we're getting a glimpse of that and it will include tax cuts as well as investing in construction projects. they also, veronica, made the point that, lo

the president has been meeting with john brennan.talked to nicolas sarkozy today trying to manage all of this. some would say that the u.s. policy of patience and of letting nato take most of the lead has been vindicated at least by the fact that the gadhafi regime is over. >> i think andrea it's been vindicated in the short-term. this is an engagement that president obama was not necessarily fully inspired on. he was sort of reluctantly dragged into this. i think it does quiet some of his critics at least for now that he was leading from behind. you haven't heard much from his republican presidential opponents from jon huntsman or mitt romney who were very critical of this. i think it does give him some sense of vindication. it may be fleeting. he spoke yesterday from martha's vineyard about sort of looking forward to working with our new friends and partners. there's not much of a sense of what type of partnership this will be. i don't think you hear all that much signs of excitement or glee at the white house. but they do feel vin

john brennan, the president's chief counterterrorism officer is with the president today. ryan deese, one of the best economic advisers that's been in the white house the past three ears is up in martha's vineyard. >> fair enough. isn't it just him vacationing at a time when the american people are really hurting, does that convey the sense of urgency you hope to convey? >> the sense of urgency has been with the president each and every day. we need a willing partner in order to make these good ideas part of what we're doing in this economy and law. savannah, this is a big political game. this happens every time republican or democrat, somebody goes on vacation and there's this big hulabaloo. as you well know and i well know, th presidency goes with you wherever you go. that's why there's secret service. that's why there's communications folks. i don't mean communications folks like me. i mean people that can get secret messages to the president. i have no doubt right now that the president is likely sitting in martha's vineyard getting an update on the situation in syria

his counterterrorism adviser john brennan is here. he was briefed by brennan throughout the day yesterday even though he did have some social functions as well. the president also held a conference call at about 9:00 yesterday evening with some of his top advisers, including his chief of staff, bill daly, and several others. so the white house trying to stay on top of this situation. we do expect to get some new information later on this morning. thomas? >> kristen, i think a lot of americans are probably looking at this and wondering if this means american boots are going to go on the ground. i know we have been covering this since the very beginning and our efforts included with nato and what's been going on from the air. but now we've seen this turn i think a lot of people are going to think that probably boots on the ground is going to be necessary in the near future. >> reporter: well, right now, thomas, pentagon officials are telling our folks here at nbc news that there is no indication that there will be u.s. boots on the grou

. >> rose: john brennan was favor? >> exactly. >> rose: what were the ordersgi?>> the orders -- this is actually -- this is a great question. from the standpoint of those who were involved in the raid, this was a kill mission. those other folks who i spoke to over the course of the past couple months suggested that this was a capture or kill mission, but from those most intimately involved with -- intimately involved around the team, there was no question they did not want detainees as one of them said to me. >> rose: but was part of themisg a body with them after the kill? >> i don't know specificay whether that was part or not. >> rose: because that's centralt wanted to establish, that they had in factille or captured osama bin laden, evidence of that. >> you know, it's funny, because if there hadn't -- if the helicopter crash had not kid, having that body may have actually been more useful in the end. we may now see those pictures, have seen those pictures, for instance, with the fact that that helicopter tail was laying inhe middle of the courtyard the next m

he has been getting frequent updates from his counterterror ism adviser john brennan, and we are weight for haiting on him t give us the most updated situation of the intelligence they have. tamron? >> and kristen, any new information regarding the u.s. involvement? we know that the u.s. led the nato strikes and at the latest talk from nato is that they will continue the air strikes until gadhafi does in fact leave. >> that is right. one of the big questions is what will happen when he in fact leaves? will the united states put boots on the ground? what we are hearing right now is that that is not the case, and the united states has no plans to do that at this point in time, and that is according to the pentagon officials and backed up by a white house spokesperson and the white house is according to the united states according to the white house officials has been playing more of a support role in the nato-led military effort there in libbia, and we ylibya, and w continue until this is finished in some capacity. >> thank you, kristen. reminder we will bring you the president's remarks

yesterday, john brennan gave a significant speech at john hopkins saying that the administration focusnow worldwide to a counter terrorism strategy focused on this loose affiliation of al qaeda cells and the intent is to block them from attacking us here in the homeland. i think that is the right focus and something which should have done. i think an airplane attack is less likely. but i think there are other ways that we could see a significant attack in this country and we need to be prepared. one of them is a dirty bomb attack. when we get back to this, i will explain why there is a real risk for that, which would be far more lethal overtime. -- over time. >> let me turn to michael chertoff for a couple of things. i will get to the tsa, believe me. but i want to stay on -- >> bring it on. >> bring it on, bring it on. we have been talking before about this bin laden moment. i want to answer the question -- are we safer because been laid in it -- because bin laden is dead or is it irrelevant to our posture? >> justice is done. it demonstrates to the world that we're capable and willin

john brennan, his counterterrorism adviser has been here on the island. we are told to expect that the president will be getting a briefing first thing this morning. the president also conducted a high-level conference call last night with senior level members of his national security team, including his chief of staff, the secretary of defense, and others, we are told. but, you know, the administration so far has been very careful not to put the president out in front of a camera. obviously because the situation is so fluid. as you pointed out, the president did release a statement last night and also in that statement, the president saying, quote, the people of libya are showing the universal pursuit of dignity and the freedom is far stronger than the iron fist of a dictator. the big question is, what happens next? there are a lot of questions, uncertain what this new leadership will look like. the president saying that there should be a peaceful transition towards democracy. again, questions as to how that will all unfold. christine? >> dan lothian in

president obama has been given frequent updates from john brennan, he also took part in a conferenceior members of his national security team, so the president very much staying on top of the situation there, but not saying a whole lot on camera. the pool crew traveling with the president yesterday as he was going to a takeout restaurant in oak bluffs, did ask him for any comment at all on libya, and the president said he wanted to wait until they got more confirmation before he would weigh in, at least on camera, but the president did release a statement saying in part, quote, the momentum against the gadhafi regime has reached a tipping point. tripoli is slipping from the grasp of a tie rand. and the people of libya are showing that the universal pursuit of dignity and freedom is far stronger than the iron fist of a dictator. the big question now is what will happen next? the administration very cognizant of the fact that there are still a lot of uncertainties with the rebel organization which the u.s. is backing. i don't know if we know this yet, but do we know if anyone has reach

sunday, he's been receiving regular updates from his homeland security and counterterrorism advisor john brennan and the president conducted a conference call after 9:00 p.m. with members of his national security team who briefed him on the dramatic developments in libya. in a statement, president obama says the bloodshed must end stating tripoli is slipping from the grasp of a tyrant. the surest way for the bloodshed to end is simple. muammar qaddafi and his regime need to recognize that their rule has come to an end. now, as those jubilant rebel forces celebrate in tripoli, the capital of libya, senator john mccain and senator lindsay graham both have visited the country and they're strong proponents of nato military action, they have issued a joint statement saying the collapse of the qaddafi regime is a victory for the libyan people and put other dictators on notice. here's what they're saying. qaddafi's fall should now send a clear message to dictators around the region and beyond that, this strategy will fail. in particular, that is a lesson for bashar al-assad and we are confidence that h

his deputy security adviser john brennan is there with him.is ban ki moon. >> what we are witnessing is testament to the courage of the libyan people to seek a tpre and democratic future. it is crucial now for the conflict to end with no further loss of life and retribution. >> reporter: egypt today recognized the libyan opposition as the legitimate government as did a bo the council prince in abu dabi. they said it would hoped it would end the violence. hugo chavez one of the few world leaders still supporting moammar qaddafi. [speaking spanish] >> democratic governments are europe, well not all of them but we know who they are are demolish tripoli with their bombs, and the allegedly democrat, democratic government of the u.s. too, just because they like to or feel like it. >> reporter: asylum was ruled out for moammar qaddafi as he's wanted for war crimes. jon: let's take a look at the political implication -gs of possible regime change in libya. bret baier joins us. president obama wanted moammar qaddafi out of libya. what comes next? >> re

here on martha's vineyard, was of the president sitting down with his counter terrorism adviser, john brennans. in addition to that, the president, also we are told, received paper briefings from his economic team and then, next week, all of next week, one of his top economic advisers will be here to give the president, we're told, frequent updates on the economic situation. as you know, the big push from the white house is, looking forward to this jobs plan that the president wants to roll out after he returns to washington. he'll deliver a speech and also lay out some details which we are told will be new ideas beyond some of the things that you just heard from the president there in his weekly address. ideas that the white house hopes will be able to spark some job growth and go a long way towards turn this ailing economy around, alina. >> are we getting any sense what those ideas are in terms of creating jobs in this country? a lot of people are anxious to hear. >> right. and we're still waiting to hear what some -- those details are. we know based on talks with some white house aides tha

the president himself did receive a briefing from john brennan his counterterrorism adviser, unclearself is seeing those dramatic pictures on television, but we're told that he has gotten all of the reports. the white house has been unable to tell us whether or not they believe they know exactly where gadhafi might be, but they do think that he is still inside libya. that is less important, though, than the fact that they believe that he is no longer in control of that country. one other point, the white house does have some concerns about the ntc, that rebel group's ability to carry out that peaceful transition to democracy, but nonetheless the white house saying they still have confidence in that group and will provide any assistance that they need. brooke? >> dan, just curious, we saw french president nicolas sarkozy meeting and speaking with the head of the ntc, mr. jibril. any indication president obama might try to speak with him as well? >> reporter: no indication at all. but this is a very fluid situation so what they might not be talking about doing today might completely ch

his deputy national security adviser, john brennan, is there with him and mr. obama was briefed by his national security advisers, senior national security team, in a telephone conference call late last night. he was scheduled to receive another briefing this morning. even as the president has been under fire for a nato mission that his critics say wasn't proceeding fast enough, his aides have maintained that moammar qaddafi's days are numbered and last night the president released a statement saying in part tripoli is slipping from the grasp of a tyrant, the qaddafi regime is showing signs of collapse, the people of libya showing the personal pursuit of dignity and freedom is stronger than the iron fist of a dictator, the president saying qaddafi needs to recognize his rule has come to an end and that he no longer controls libya. gregg: what about the international reaction to all of these incredible events? what are you learning about that? >> it's been pretty much uniformly in support of the libyan opposition, known as the transnational council and against q

at least three different briefings starting out this morning with his counterterrorism adviser john brennanthe president also convened a conference call with his emergency management officials and others to get the latest information on the hurricane and make sure that the federal government is coordinating with state and local officials, and then finally the president also had a conference call with treasury secretary timothy geithner and others on his economic team to get a broad view of the economy but also the updates on the jobs proposal that the president will be rolling out when he returns. now, while all of this is taking place here on the island,

john brennan, the president's counterterrorism advisor is there with him briefing him.s never far away if he's on a golf course or in the residence or anywhere else. they would immediately tell him what's going on. they would give him a sense of how serious it is. i would expect not necessarily here in washington, d.c. it's about 80 or 90 miles from the ep center, closer to virginia, the destruction, the damage could be more significant. not only in terms of physical damage but in terms of people. at some point the president, if there's a really significant amount of destruction, damage, injury, president could cut short his vacation and go to the scene and see what's going on himself. i wouldn't be surprised if that happens. if in fact, there's significant damage or destruction or human injury closer to the epicenter in richmond, virginia. in new york, in washington, elsewhere along the eastern seaboard. north carolina, ohio. you could feel this earthquake. this is a big earthquake and it obviously has the potential for causing significant damage. let just hope and pra

john brennan the other day was saying going forward we will be mindful that if our nation is threatened, our best offense would always be deploying large armies abroad but rather delivering targeted surgical pressure to the groups that threaten us. that's you. it's clear that the united states is headed for a position of counterterrorism rather than large conventional armies and rather, i might add, to me for my vantage point, counterinsurgency, which has many, many, many troops, very large budgets, and over the last few months in washington with that perspective of afghanistan in washington, it's clear they don't really talk about coin very much. they may be doing it in certain regions in afghanistan but not all over. that means back at you. the counterterrorism troops, the counterterrorism approach, do you believe will be the future? and if so, how do we balance the american military? counterterrorism approach without counterinsurgency is a flawed concept and this idea of being able to wait over the horizon and spring into chop off heads just doesn't really work. what it requires is -

obama is monitoring the situation from his vacation on martha's vineyard where he was briefed by john brennan. the president later released a statement that read in part, tripoli is slipping from the glass. the surist way is simple. recognize their rule has come to an end. he needs to relinquish power once and for all. this fight has been going on for six months. the end came quite quickly. >> because of the coordinated response that involved nato. people in libya, in tripoli working on the ground with the opposition as well as the rebel leaders. key is what happens next. as you know, the challenges are a mess. this is creating a new government, a new country where there's only been one unifying force, that is gadhafi and his people. now, the biggest challenge is create a form of government. it's what jeff has been working on for days and days in the most recent trip to benghazi. that is what they are hoping. they have insurances from the national group, the council that they are now including tribes that have not been previously involved. they are reaching out. they understand the need for c

division so finally when john comes around even though she had created a gentle kunkel tom she calls john brennan 1859 the greatest american that has ever lived like to former pacifists who had written the classic essays called civil disobedience which influences martin luther king and john brown is greater than any of the other founding fathers and. beecher stowe says no man has ever lived more for the honor of the american indian john brown and yet nobody is violence in the book and in her purse ferry but by that time she knew the sad truth america learned that only violence was going to end slavery and it took the depth of more than 620,000 americans to end slavery. that is a deeply entrenched the slavery had become in america. and sadly, she came to realize that. she realized that the approach as attractive as it was and as effective as it became she could not predict that but at that moment unfortunately violence was needed to get rid of the slavery and she came to admit that. >> a little while before, you had said that uncle tom's cabin was primarily a firming humanity, and then you mention

i agree with john brennan in a speech we are all talking about that the largest threat to our homeland from afar and place is from yemen at this point. it has a failing government and has a very active al qaeda and related cells hiding in the hinterlands where there is basically no police function. they are preparing to attack our homeland. they are the place. that is where of the maqtada abdulmutallah was trained. on pakistan, the group that just attacked a hotel in kabal is the haqqani network. it is a terror group protected by the pakistan government, off limits to their counter- terrorism attacks. it is located -- or its training area is located just at the afghan border. and very lethal operatives from the network go across the border and killed our troops. i'm pretty pessimistic about our relationship with pakistan at the moment. we have to work on it, i agree, but i know we're doing this, we have to take counter terror measures to protect our country even if they are inside the border of pakistan. as we did with osama bin laden, when we see that there are groups there that inten

i want to read from senator lee been's -- senator lieberman's letter to john brennan. failure to identify our enemy for what it is, violent islamic extremism is offensive and contradicts thousands of years of accepted military and intelligence document to know your enemy. we have to know our enemy and it is a radical islam. i would like to ask mr. bledsoe and abdirizak bihi, your children were kidnapped and held hostage and sent overseas to yemen and somalia and their lives were destroyed. have these two mosques done anything to repair the relationship? have they told you they are sorry? have they told you they will change their practice? >> i will speak first. i have not heard at all that they are sorry. going back to the lady from texas, we are not talking about all muslims. we are talking about islamic radicalization. that i want to make clear. there's a difference. i am in the middle. in the middle between two. we are not talking about all muslims. we are talking about the ones who are hiding behind a moderate muslims. they are ones who are a threat to america and

yesterday, john brennan said that the president's highest duty is the safety of the mayor -- of the american people. wrong. that is wrong. it is to preserve the constitution. the reason security is important is because the greatest danger to the constitution is massive panic and insecurity. that is when there will be the victory. the domestic foreign divide was bridge. it is so rich with -- is bridge without compromising our liberty. that needs to be sustained in a conscious effort. the last observation i will make about intelligence is this. there are a number of controversies on how this is managed. people have preconceptions should be managed. they just take their preconceptions. what they should do is analyze how well the community is managed by objective criteria. can you manage back office systems more effectively? admiral mcconnell did that better than any in maximizing the management possibilities in cited the current law. he is well qualified to talk about whether or not we need to go further. all of the intel reform issues have been relatively easy. when we had these huge national

. >> john brennan from the hill newspaper. the senate armed services committee has expressed new concerns about the operating and procurement costs of global hawk, and i'm just curious in that especially now in this new budget environment what are you all doing to get both the procurement and the operating costs down, and have you sped up those earths given -- efforts given recent developments? >> that's a good question. i'll take that, but you guys have got to throw these other guys some questions. the global hawk is brand new, and through the whole development of the program even if you look back at materialed back in the -- dated back in the 2002 time prime, it's complex, and we're not certain how much it would cost. back in those days it was supposed to cost $10 million a copy, but no one knows where that number came from. someone said, well, i think it should cost ten million. and when it didn't cost ten million, we went back to try to figure out who said that, and there was no data behind that. so already the global hawk

. >> two thanks, i agree with john brennan who said in the speech we are talking about that the largest threat to our homeland from a foreign places from yemen at this point. it has a failing government, and it has very active al qaeda and related cells hiding where there are basically no police function. they are preparing to attack our homeland. that is the place. that is where these internet materials are developed. i would put that as number one. they do not have nuclear weapons like pakistan, but i think there are more dangers. on pakistan, the group that just attacked the hotel was the connie network. they have taking credit for that. the heat on a network is protected by the pakistani government. they are located just at the afghan border and a very lethal operatives from this network go across the border and killed our troops. i am pessimistic with our relationship with pakistan at the moment. i agree we have to work on it, but i think -- i know we are doing this. we have to take counterterrorism measures to protect our country even if they are inside the border as we did with o