i never thought i would be sitting here agreeing with every word john burris would say. [laughter] this is the first time i have had an opportunity to be with him. however, i do agree with him. it has to be enforced throughout the organization. what we expect up our people. what we want to ensure up our people, particularly the integrity and the values aspect. many of us, not many, but quite a few departments have of all you statement. ethics, integrity are part of those values. it is not just a document that is on a wall. it is something we have to believe that every level and in force at every level. in preparing for this, i found an absolutely wonderful article, "the truth about the police code of silence revealed." i really recommend that you take a look at that. i'm going to recommend most police chiefs take a look at this. there are profiles. he talks about the code of silence. that is about the fact that there is. how you prevent the code of silence? it is like how do you prevent crime? or how do you stop crime, let's put it that way. the best way to prevent these

said today on the panel -- and i cannot believe i am going to say this -- i completely agree with john burris and stuart hanlon. [applause] >> thank you for giving my closing comments from me. i would like to thank the public defender's office for providing the public and anybody he wants to come to this forum, hearing from these experts, and they help you take away some good things from this -- and i hope you take away some good things you take away some good things from this panel. >> so many people here. this is the third and final panel for those of you who have stayed. this is going to be an incredible discussion. leading the panel, this is the chief attorney of the public defender's office, matt gonzalez. >> let me talk about how we decided to have a panel as part of this year is just a summit on the death penalty. san francisco is often known for being a large city, in this case, we have a unique history with the death penalty. during his reelection campaign of 1999, terrence hallohan said that they would not seek the death penalty for any offense in san francisco. he was reelected by

. >> john burris, a criminal defense attorney giving a point by point list there john, of what dr.rong. how far does that go in convincing 12 lay people that murray is guilty? >> a long ways, this was a pretty profound description of what should have been done. some of those are common sense and what the doctor says, any reasonably good qualified doctor would have taken these steps and failure to do so contributed to the cause of death of michael jackson. if he had done any of these steps, he would have been saved. pretty devastating. >> what do you think of the defense shifting strategies, that the anti-anxiety drug lorazepam did jackson in. is this enough to create reasonable doubt? >> it could, what the jury will hear is what the defense is trying to say the cause of death may have come not only from propofol but other drugs. if the jury thinks that was ingested by michael jackson voluntarily they could say the cause of death wasn't necessarily caused by the doctor. whether that will happen or not is another matter. i know what they are trying to suggest, if you got to look at t

i never thought i would be sitting here agreeing with every word john burris would say. [laughter] this is the first time i have had an opportunity to be with him. however, i do agree with him. it has to be enforced throughout the organization. what we expect up our people. what we want to ensure up our people, particularly the integrity and the values aspect. many of us, not many, but quite a few departments have of all you statement. ethics, integrity are part of those values. it is not just a document that is on a wall. it is something we have to believe that every level and in force at every level. in preparing for this, i found an absolutely

. >> joining me now, defense attorney john burris is in talks that arrested them that night.they won against the police department in 2003. thank you for your time. what is the police supposed to say. if there were bottles thrown, is that an appropriate show of force? the tear gas canisters and the other things that are clearly caught on tape? >> it depends. we had back in the iraqi war, we worked out a policy for the oakland police department and the policy required that force can be used depending upon what type of activity is before you. it is not appropriate to use gla flash grenades. in this particular case, it appeared that a lot of the police activity occurred in a random way and was logged in the crowd. you could easily hurt people that way. i think there was aç legitimat basis to argue that the force was excessive. police have a right not only to defend themselves, but the general public. they have to occur. i have been involved in many of the kinds of things and this is a situation where you try to balance out the rights of the protesters that is a legitimate issue

. >> joining me now is defense attorney john burris. we look at this tape we are about to hear more details from what conrat murray said. how crucial might it be to the case that we are seeing today? >> i think it's extraordinarily important. what you are going to get in statements from the doctor about the event that took place and i'm sure they think he is seeking to cover up and try to justify and suggest that he acted properly and it will be inconsistent and contradict the physical evidence they have. from the prosecution's point of view, it gives the jurors an opportunity to hear his efforts in trying to cover up his conduct as it relates to michael. >> what's your assessment when you look at how the investigators have been doing. you have the syringe and it was that of the coroner's investigator. also you have the revelation that the information was not done yard. are they doing this in a good manner at all? >> apparently the investigation was not done in a high level of professionalism and what the defense is trying to suggest is

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. >> attorney john burris want to know just how many time san leandro police zapped a man who wouldn't comply to their demands. they say the man died shortly after getting tased and then handcuffed. >> it's so early on in the investigation, we're not sure of any prior medical conditions. and we don't no if he was on something, exactly what happened. right now the cause of death is unknown. >> reporter: but burris says police need to come up with answer. he says san leandro police have been called into question before. they settled a deadly 2005 taser case for nearly $400,000. >> in terms of the number of deaths, there's more than enough. i mean, they're all around the country. we've had a number of taser-related deaths here. >> this is a -- this is not a nonlethal weapon, it's a less lethal weapon. as we've seen. there have been many deaths after tasers have been used. >> reporter: police accountability consultant barbara atard says the case is another reminder that police officers need constant training and monitoring when it comes to tasers. >> we really need to figure out why people