let's continue with john bussey "wall street journal," assistant managing editor from a paper locatedere in our building. john boehner speaking just a moment ago in a way to the same point that bill clinton spoke just a couple of days ago. >> exactly right. the law should could what it promised to do which is to keep those people hole who already have insurance policies and not cause them to be cancelled because those policies don't comply with the new affordable care act standard now you are hearing language from the white house looking at possible proposals on how to get that done. i think this has worked against getting people to embrace the idea of a moving to a new policy. >> they needed change in narrative and quickly, don't they? >> that's right. and also of opportunity. people need to be able to keep those policies. so i think probably hear grandfathering wendell makes a good point. this number that came out. 106,000 came up. wendell's point that we don't know how many of those policies are are actually confirmed. how much by any standard, even the best number that you heard f

wife us now is john bussey, the executive business editor of "the wall street journal," sued to cousin of -- pseudo cousin of us. >> tears a story that says between 40,000 and 50,000 people signed up. that's probably not a big surprise given the problems they have had with the web site. but it's a tenth of what the administration hoped would be sign up. it does not help the insurers understand what they demographics are going to be in the new population of customers they're going to get. >> for this to work properly -- and i said from the beginning -- youngish healthy people have to get involve. >> that's right. and why is that? they're healthy, not going to require a lot of healthcare expense, and they're going to be paying into the pool that will ensure old -- insure older people who need healthcare. the demographic is working against the insurers, younger people, older people are signing up, not a lot of younger people. a lot of medicaid also has -- people who are seeking medicaid insurance have signed up because the government expanded that program. but we're early so we don't know