we go to john bussey from the "wall street journal."'t learn much at all except that he paid 25% in taxes. >> he made $153 million, paid $38 million in taxes. those are numbers that donald trump is happy are out there. shows him paying a big tax bill. but richard grubin points out that is pretty much the data and doesn't go much further than that, which means the controversy over his relations with russia, bank debt that he might have, the details of his taxes are still under known. so the controversy around donald trump's taxes, even though this is a pretty bit of good news for him, and he kind of front-ran the release of it on air last night to television stations, they front ran it, put the information out there and put their own spin on it from the white house shows he's willing to release some of his information. why not the rest of his taxes? the democrats say come clean and show us the details. not just the top line numbers. >> shepard: it's not just the democrats. some republicans want to know as well. >> that's right. >> shepar

john bussey is here. they're trying to say we're a united party.oved they're absolutely not that. >> they're going -- this is a tricky issue. they don't want to spend the rest of their political capitol on something that doesn't bring in a victory for the administration. they're turning to taxes. the white house says, look, we're going to be driving this train. that's the language that they're using. michael bender, our washington reporter has a story on this. the question is the white house going to be driving it or are they going to work closely with congress. kevin brady, the head of the house ways and means committee said look, we hope the white house works with us. ryan has a plan. the republicans have a plan. we need the white house to work in concert with what is already going on in the house of representatives. >> the suggestion is that they'll reach across political lines to get democrats on board with some of this. what would be a democrat's incentive to work with this administration? >> a lot of democrats that think that the corporate ta

let's bring in john bussey from the "wall street journal."irst he said he didn't have conversations. now he said he didn't have conversations regarding the campaign. if he didn't, he didn't. >> that's right. from the trump administration's standpoint, this is a problem. they're not talking and taxes, about healthcare reform, about the travel ban. they're having to talk about their attorney general. it makes sense of this and navigate through a growing body of those that want him to recuse himself. the issue for trump, the longer this stays in the news, the issue of at least partially the legitimacy of the election, which is something that he's sensitive about, also stays in the news. you know, are we going to find in the intelligence community something more substantial about russ russia's intrusion into the election process. those are things that the trump administration wants to move past to get to its agenda. these are staying front and center. lastly, he doesn't necessarily have had to have talked about the campaign with the ambassador in