john bussey joins us now.ng to have to be a forecast or forecasting the level of enthusiasm because of this weather. some people sitting on the fence may not want to come out others really will. who do you think the enthusiasm factual benefit the most considering people need to brave and they're they are used too bl brave these bitter record colds? >> right. there is a lot of reason not to pay a huge amount of attention to the iowa caucuses. why is that? trump is way ahead of nikki haley and ron desantis there is a huge lead that he has in polls. also, it is a small state it's a beautiful state, fascinating agricultural economy, really nice people but it is a small state only six electoral votes, is that really matter in the election at the end of the day? hugely. and it is not diverse. it's not going to give us an indication of how african-americans might vote, how hispanics might vote. so why pay attention? i would say it is still a fascinating place to spend your monday night observing. how well does trump

john bussey is an attorney with the center for biological diversity, but it's still taking water outsacramento river system at times when salmon are migrating. >> and that's that's an important thing. these are these are federally protected fish. >> and he points to increasingly popular strategies like groundwater recharge as an alternative storage solution. early last year, abc seven profiled a farm in the central valley that's being turned into a kind of overflow basin to capture flood surges on the kings river and divert it onto shallow fields. >> the heart of our lawsuit is the failure to consider a range of alternatives that would look at more environmentally sound means of storing this water. >> there are also proposals to expand the capacity of existing reservoirs, like los vaqueros near livermore, which could also face opposition. but the backers of the sites project believe the plan is environmentally sound and they argue that the pressure to capture and store an increasingly unpredictable water flow could soon become critical for california. >> the handwriting is on the wal

john bussey is an attorney with the center for biological diversity, but it's still taking water out when salmon are migrating. >> and that's that's an important thing. these are these are uh- federally protected fish . >> and he points to increasingly popular strategies like groundwater recharge as an alternative storage solution. early last year, abc seven profile showed a farm in the central valley that's being turned into a kind of overflow basin to capture flood surges on the kings river and divert it onto shallow fields. >> the heart of our lawsuit is the failure to consider a range of alternatives that would look at more environmentally sound means of storing this water. >> there are also proposals to expand the capacity of existing reservoirs like los vaqueros near livermore, which could also face opposition. but the backers of the sites project believe the plan is environmentally sound, and they argue that the pressure to capture and store an increasingly unpredictable water flow could soon become critical for california, for the handwriting is on the wall. >> if the last 10

john bussey is an attorney with the center for biology diversity, but it's still taking water out of the sacramento river system. >> at times when salmon are migrating. and that's that's an important thing. these are these are federally protected fish. >> and he points to increasingly popular strategies like groundwater recharge as an alternative storage solution. early last year, abc seven profiled a farm in the central valley that's being turned into a kind of overflow basin to capture flood surges on the kings river and divert it onto shallow fields. >> the heart of our lawsuit is the failure to consider a range of alternatives that would look at more environmentally sound means of storing this water. >> there are also proposals to expand the capacity of existing reservoirs, like los vaqueros near livermore, which could also face opposition. but the backers of the sites project believe the plan is environmentally sound, and they argue that the pressure to capture and store an increasingly unpredictable water flow could soon become critical for california. >> the handwriting is on

john bussey is an attorney with the center for biological diversity, but it's still taking water outthe sacramento river system at times when salmon are migrating. >> and that's that's an important thing. these are these are uh- federally protected fish . >> and he points to increase popular strategies like groundwater recharge as an alternate storage solution. early last year, abc seven profiled a farm in the central valley that's being turned into a kind of overflow basin to capture flood surges on the kings river and divert it onto shallow fields. the heart of our lawsuit is the failure to consider a range of alternatives that would look at more environmentally sound means of storing this water. there are also proposals to expand the capacity of existing reservoirs like los vaqueros near livermore , which could also face opposition. but the backers of the sites project believe the plan is environmentally sound, and they argue that the pressure to capture and store an increasingly unpredictable water flow could soon become critical for california. >> the handwriting is on the wall

john bussey is an attorney with the center for biological diversity, but it's still taking water out system at times when salmon are migrating. >> and that's that's an important thing. these are these are uh- federally protected fish . >> and he points to increase popular strategies like groundwater recharge as an alternative storage solution. early last year, abc seven profiled a farm in the central valley that's being turned into a kind of overflow basin to capture flood surges on the kings river and divert it onto shallow fields. >> the heart of our lawsuit is the failure to consider a range of alternatives that would look at more environmentally sound means of storing this water. >> there are also proposals to expand the capacity of existing reservoirs like los vaqueros near livermore, which could also face opposition. but the backers of the sites project believe the plan is environmentally sound, and they argue that the pressure to capture and store an increasingly unpredictable water flow could soon become critical for california. >> the handwriting is on the wall if the last 1

john bussey is an attorney with the center for biological diversity, but it's still taking water out of the sacramento river system at times when salmon are migrating. >> and that's that's an important thing. these are these are, uh, federally protected fish. >> and he points to increasingly popular strategies like groundwater recharge as an alternative storage solution. early last year, abc seven profiled a farm in the central valley that's being turned into a kind of overflow basin to capture flood surges on the kings river and divert it onto shallow fields. >> the heart of our lawsuit is the failure to consider a range of alternatives that would look at more environmentally sound means of storing this water. >> there are also proposals to expand the capacity of existing reservoirs, like los vaqueros near livermore, which could also face opposition. but the backers of the sites project believe the plan is environmentally sound and they argue that the pressure to capture and store an increasingly unpredictable water flow could soon become critical for california. >> the handwriting