the church where the massacre took place is located on calhoun street named after john c calhoun, a congressmane president in the early 19th century. >> there are few figure of this period as powerful as john c calhoun. >> he wielded influence over policy and was wide lie known as an oddvo kate for slavery. >> he believed it was the backbone of the south, and thought it was civilizing the so-called savages, and you have to look at him in that light, that he was more that an advocate of slavery, a fierce defender of slavery. >> a petition is being circulated to rename the street and change it to clemente street. that may not be so easy. cal hoon is a revered figure. monuments, parks, lakes and institutions all over the south bear his name. it runs deep in the south. port her, bragg and lee bears the names of confederate generals. >> today i announced the formation of a task force to look at the statutory on the main mall and south mall of the campus, this is an emotional and important issue for students. >> students at the university of texas are lobbying to remove the statue of jefferson davis,

when we honor people like john c. calhounnjamin tillman we're missing opportunities to honor people who contributed on the right side that history. harvey grant zornell thurston, being honored now at duke. if we're going to name buildings after people, he should honor people whose contribution to justice transcends time. >> what's your opinion on the name of historic forts like fort lee, brag and hood. should they be renamed? >> we have to look at history in all of its complexity. we don't want to erase the struggle for justice and the fact that there were enemies in the struggle like confederate leaders. we have historical textbooks and museums to do that. when we name buildings and monuments, we are honoring those people and we don't want to honor that legacy. >> the fact that we had civil war reenactors and some people dress like union soldiers, others like confederate soldiers. now there are calls for the confederate soldiers not to carry the confederate flag. do you agree? >> the reenactment is different than the buildin

and it happened most clearly in 1830 where you see both jackson, john c calhoun and the nationalists all invoking jefferson to wild in -- ends. jackson said that jefferson is a nationalist. you are betraying him. the nationalists became the wings, -- whigs, and they said that you are betraying him. they then entered a time of crisis and it would continue until the civil war. alexander heffner: stepping back, do you attribute his status, jefferson's to the authorship of the declaration, being poised to almost usurp intellectually in terms of hominids -- prominence. david sehat: the declaration is important, but i attribute jefferson's promise to the formation of local parties because when he won the election, the opposing party was the federalists, they disappeared. they were utterly of and went into decline and there were no more federalists after 1812. what happened was, that was the end of the first party system. then we had the second party system, where you have the national republicans and the democratic republicans, the party of jackson. both of them looked back to jefferson as

during his presidency, i think, had to do with his inability to get along with the vice president, john c calhoun and the calhounites that were part of his cabinet. and the marriage of john eaton member of the cabinet, his good friend, to margaret o`neal was a major scandal, and ultimately jackson wipes out the whole cabinet. and polk is over there in congress looking at that. c-span: over this marriage? over this•. ? >> guest: over this marriage. i mean, flora ada calhoun will not have anything to do with margaret o`neal, the wife of the vice president, and other cabinet officers follow her along. van buren, not married, is very nice to them. and... c-span: what was he then? >> guest: he was vice president -- no, he was secretary of state. and jackson wrapped his arm around van buren and named him vice president -- really ordained him for the vice presidency in the second term, because he was nice to eaton and mrs. eaton. so the whole cabinet is wiped out, eaton resigns and others are forced to resign. polk comes into office, and i think one of the reasons he didn`t dump buchanan was because he

the south carolina senator john c. calhoun described it as an unnecessary "error," his words. he said it was now germinating and beginning to produce "a poisonous brood." abram lincoln acknowledged that the claim that all men are created equal was "of no practical use" in dissolving ties with britain, but he sought a future use. frederick douglass a great about the importance of the phrase, but saw things differently. america, he said, falls to the task. to a slave's in her's, he explained, the shouts of liberty and equality -- to a slave's years, he explained the shouts of liberty and equality were nothing but hollow mockery. by the time southern states begin seceding from the union issuing secession notices many americans that taken the interpretation that calvin dreaded, lincoln long for, and frederick douglass found hypocritical. a radical commitment to rights that most bit streamers and early readers could not have it -- have anticipated. most would have seen it as a document of radical egalitarianism through we see it so now is a product of their effort and is the challe

in 1888, john c calhoun described the claim of a quality in the declaration as a politically unnecessary error. independence could have been announced without this false and dangerous idea which had lain dormant for many years and was not germinating and beginning to prove poisonous. abraham lincoln claimed that the court that all men are created equal is of no particle use. he saw a bold claim. further douglas agreed on the importance of the phrase but thought about a different a. he said its current conduct was clearly at odds with american heritage. to a slave year, the shouts of the liberty and equality were nothing but hollow mockery. by the time southern states begin issuing documents of secession, many more americans had taken the interpretive turn that calhoun dreaded, that lincoln longed for, and that frederick douglass on hypocritical. in doing so, they discovered in the decoration in the second paragraph, a radical commitment to equality and human rights that is early readers cannot have anticipated. at the time of this writing, very few in the newly formed united states forme

it was looking at expanding its territory, partly because the south -- john c calhoun, the great advocatefor the white slaveholding south -- had feared for a long time that the north would grow in greater numbers and start to dominate congress. there was a real push in the south to expand slavery, not only westward -- this was the conflict within the republican party which was opposed to that in the 1850's -- but to expand southward. after the civil war, the south was flat on its back for quite some time and has a sharecropping system. but certainly an avid supporter of things like the spanish-american war. host: rain spell alabama, tim a republican. caller: what i was talking about, regulations. this country is getting more regulations than any country around. it's everybody's. with got jobs going over in china. we need to make sure they are regulated just like we are. hillary clinton -- ask hillary about global warming, you can take it like this -- a portion of the air is over in china just as well as here. that's my question. bring the jobs back, we need to make other countries follow

state of south carolina that reminds us of slavery, things named after ben tillman, wade hampton, john c. calhoun on the state house grounds. i have no problem -- >> have other representatives or constituents said that to you? >> i think the number has grown. i think there has always been a significant segment in the state of south carolina that have felt that way. but with this tragedy that has happened in charleston it has moved people emotionally, and i'm hopeful, prayerful that that emotion will turn into a true commitment. i love the definition of commitment being that commitment is what you do after the emotion is gone. so according to the numbers, we are hopeful that we can get this done that enough people are committed in the house and the senate to get this done. >> thank you so much state representative david mack iii from charleston south carolina. have a great rest of your weekend. >>> another sign of growing public opposition to the confederate flag. daytona international speedway is offering to exchange any confederate flag for an american flag for those attending today's race. nasc