democrat representative himes and republican, john campbell. the president unveils his afghanistan strategy going forward and congress debates are involvement in libya. we will get to your phone calls in just a minute. the phone numbers are on your screen. frank joins us on the phone this morning. he is defense and foreign policy reporter with "congressional quarterly." let's begin with the ideologies from both parties when it comes to engaging in war. how have they thought about it in the past? how has it changed? guest: we seen a significant change, specifically in the republican party as it relates to afghanistan. for a long time, republicans were very pro-afghanistan. although, averting their attention from the work for several years during the iraq war. there's a definite split among republicans right now, especially among some of the fiscally concerned new republicans in congress and some of the old guard, such as john mccain, for example. among democrats, a very strong group on the left of the party, 80 or 90 members who have been agains

the outgoing general there of the 101starian general major general john campbell said, look, we have killed or captured about 4,000 taliban. i said so why isn't it over if you have done that much? he said they keep regenerated and keep coming over but they show progress there. i think, charlie, what they're really talking about there, and really every single senior officer that i talked to over there said they did not want to draw down too quickly. there was a lot of work to be done. but i think what the debate really is now, is whether they should continue with the counterinsurgency strategy. that strategy takes a lot of timea lot of money, and a lot of people. so i think that is the echo over there that i heard, that the troops on the ground that the general is on the ground want to continue with this strategy because they think is working. it's the strategy that worked in iraq. but i think in washington, they're saying that that is too expensive. we have to take another look. there a sense go back to 2009 and the debate that you had then, the counterterrorism approach, osama bin l

we were with major general john campbell along the treacherous border with pakistan. >> in all of theyou convince people that you should keep going here? >> i tell them to take a look at the progress we've had over the last year. i tell them to look we haven't had another 9/11 since we had forces on the ground here. i think that's key. it takes time with the counter insurgency fight. >> reporter: the counter insurgency efforts may indeed be working here. there's lots of progress to be seen. but counter insurgency takes lots of troops, lots of time and lots of money. >> with men like you, afghanistan has nothing but a great future. >> reporter: recently promoted to brigadier general, barry valesky was in iraq during some of the worst fighting there. that insurgency was eventually tamed, and security turned over to local forces and essential government. he said the same needs to happen here. >> what we have to do is partner closely with our afghan counterparts and make them more capable and build that institution. i see it happening every day. >> reporter: soldiers in the trenches are e

jim himes and john campbell will join us.hen david wasserman on the implications of redistricting on 2012. up next on c-span, the senate foreign relations committee picks up the nomination of dan paterson to be the next u.s. ambassador to egypt. then the white house announces new warning labels for cigarettes. later, jon huntsman announces that he is running for the republican presidential nomination. nominee fordent's u.s. ambassador to egypt said that the administration's first priority in that country is ensuring free and fair elections. anne patterson previously served as u.s. ambassador to pakistan. she testified before the senate foreign relations committee for just over an hour. the committee is chaired by senator john kerry, there on your screen, who recently returned from egypt. >> we are here this morning to consider the ambassadorial nominations to five important countries. we will abide the hearing in to two panels, beginning with anne patterson, the choice to represent the united states in egypt. egypt has histor

jim campbell, john turner, on the left-hand side, pierson on the right. going by fairly quickly, so you got to catch them fast. and he's head to the giant oak doors, leading into the house of commons and do the famous tap three times. [taps] and the door is opne. en. inside,f anxious mp's who yesterday went to the process of electing the youngest speaker ever in parliament. >> a message from his excellency the governor general. >> the black rod tells the the sergeant of arms that he has a message for the speaker of the house of commons. this is the sergeant of arms for the house of commons. >> [speaking french] >> mr. speaker, a message from his excellency the governor general. >> places the maise on his shoulder that sits on the table there in parliament when it is in session. the acting usher of the black rod will enter the chamber. there you see the liberal party in the background, in the back end corner. they have never been down there. the interim leader. the mvp off to the left there on your picture. >> mr. speaker, it is the desire of his excellenc