i'm pleased to have john carlin at this table for the first time. thank you, charlie. >> it's a pleasure to have you here. why are you leaving it seemed like a natural break point. it's been nearly 20 years with the justice department. but loved every job that i have had there. >> tremendously influenced by 9/11. >> yeah, yes, i wasment i'm a new yorker. and my family was in new york that it day. and a member of my-- i remember my father was underneath the world trade center in the subway on his way downtown. pie brother-in-law was right across the street looking out. >> so he saw bodies jumping out of. >> the towers. >> he did. he was in the reserves at the time. got called up as one of the people helping to clean up the site afterwards. i remember that feeling, as so many do, of wondering if your family members were safe and trying to call frantically to reach them. and we were lucky, that day. many others were not. >> and have we learned the lesson? >> i think we've learned important lessons from that day. one of which is do not forget what happe

i think we're going to learn a lot more about this situation in the hours and days to come. >> john carlin himself -- >> some of these guys are literally right over here. we'll be talking to them in a few minutes. >> carlin himself will be on "power lunch" at 1:15 eastern time today. i know we're going to hear more developments about this story certainly moving forward. amman, thanks for that. >> amman javers with breaking news. we'll get carlin's thoughts on this story and what else we know. broad com shares moving higher today after being initiated with an outperform rating. a $215 price target at bernstein. we've made it our call of the day. what do you think of it? >> we've been on these trips for a long time, and we know the environment has been strong for them. this is a great combination when you really look at these two companies coming together. it's got earnings growth. they're expecting some great cash flows in the future. there is a lot of reasons to really like the combination we're seeing here right now. has it been a little bit too much too fast? i don't know. that's sort of

. >> thanks, jeff. [ applause ] >> next to the stage, please welcome john carlin, assistant attorney general for national security at the justice department, here with "the atlantic" steve clemons. [ applause ] >> greetings, everybody. john, thank you so much for joining us today. earlier today we had a conversation with a number of players, and i asked one of your former colleagues, matt owen, i guess, to judge if the united states was on a scale of ten and our next biggest adversary were to be judged on a scale of one to ten, where would he put them? and he said he'd give the next biggest threat a seven. and as you're out there prosecuting terror case and sort of like "the wizard of oz," you know what's going on around the world, what russia's doing, what isis is doing, what domestic players in the united states are doing. how would you rate the biggest threat to the united states on a one-to-ten scale? >> i think when you think about what the threat picture is now, that we are facing more complicated threat picture than we've ever faced before, and that's a consensus across the int

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i am pleased to have john carlin at the table. welcome. mr. carlin: thanks, charlie. charlie: why are you leaving? mr. carlin: it seemed like a natural break point. it has been nearly 20 years with the justice department. loved every job that i had there. charlie: tremendously influenced by 9/11? mr. carlin: i am a new yorker, my family was in new york that day. i remember my father was underneath the world trade center in the subway on his way downtown. my brother-in-law was right across the street, looking out. charlie: he saw people jumping out? r. carlin: he did. he was in the reserves at the time. he got called up as one of the people helping to clean up the site afterwards, and i remember the feeling, as many do come out of wondering if your family members are safe and trying to call frantically to reach them. we were lucky that day. many others were not. charlie: have we learned the lesson? mr. carlin: i think we have learned important lessons from not day, one of which is to forget what happened that day. the division i lead was created as post-9/11 reform bec

. >>> as head of the justice department's national security division, john carlin othersaw thon -- boston marathon bomber. smalledder in scale than what happened 15 years ago in new york, washington and pennsylvania more complex and still devastating with a new digital component. groups like isis are sending the duel jihad out, electronically on the internet. >>> and the threat we face now is crowd sourcing terrorism. it involves individuals who are inside the united states, but inspired by terrorism causes overseas. >>> at 43 years old he's the youngest and longest serving head of the national security division. >>> it used to be the realm of science fiction. >>> spoke at a security forum at m. i. t. and granted seven news a rare tv interview. >>> there have been hacks are the rnc, dnc and some so people are out there saying, could these cyberterrorist, these terrorists influence our presidentiam election? idea that a foreign power might try to influence even if they can't, but even if they just wanted to try to influence our election, take that very seriously. i know it would demand a r

i want to bring in assistant attorney general john carlin. much for taking the time today. >> thank you. >> as we approach election day, an enormous level of concern about hacking of parties involved, candidates, but also the u.s. election system. are ayou closer to making a har identification of who is behind these hacks? >> well, i'll say that. for a long time people thought if you did something through cyber-enabled means, you would be anonymous. if you did it through the internet, you would get away scot free. we've shown time and time again that although investigation is hard, we can find you and we will. we've done it whether you're operating under the flag of china, iran or north korea. >> you're kfconfident you'll be able to find and charge those responsible for these election h hacks? >> i wouldn't necessarily say in every case we'll use the criminal justice system. it must be one of the tools we bring to bear charges. but i will say this. to those outside our borders who are thinking they can mess with fundamental american instituti

charlie: john carlin is here, he is stepping down as chief of the justice department's national securityr 15. he oversaw the prosecution of cyber criminals and 110 people on terrorism related charges. his prominent cases are prosecutions involving chinese military hackers and espionage. the u.s. is weighing in response to russia after accusing it of

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. >> reporter: as head of the security division, john carlin oversaw the prosecution of marathon bomber dzhokhar tsarnaev. he cites that attack as the new less sophisticated terror threat. smaller in scale than what happened 15 years ago in new york, washington, and pennsylvania. more complex and still devastating with the new digital component. groups like isis are sending the call to jihad out through the internet. are inside the united states but inspired by terrorism causes overseas. at 43 years old, he is the youngest andlonging serving head of the division. >> it used to be the realm of science-fiction... >> reporter: he granted 7 news a rare tv interview to discuss some of the most imminent terror threats we face today. including cyber-terror. >> there have been hacks at the rnc, the dnc and i think some people out there are saying could these cyber-terrorists, these hackers presidential election? we take very seriously the idea that a foreign power might try to influence, even if they can't, but even if they wanted to try to influence our election, we take that very seriously: i

i spoke to the department of justice official john carlin and he named a number of different ways thespond, a number of different consequences. listen to what he said. >> consequences can range from these are all legally available tools, prosecuting someone, using the treasury department authority to sanction individuals or companies or nation states responsible, it could be diplomatic, it could be military if it's a case where it's caused death or destruction, could be covert action. then the way we have done it with terrorism or weapons of mass destruction is we sit around the situation room and construct a strategy that will cause pain to the adversary, that will cause them to change their behavior. >> what he said to me was also look at the chinese hackers a couple years ago, they put five chinese hackers behind bars. he said we will come after you, we will find you, we will put you behind bars. they want to make a statement with this. >> when you look at what the next administration can do, they are going to face this again, no question. did he say there's anything the next presi

john carlin, walter, andrew mccabe, michelle reagan. >> some of the old m.i.t.fessors who probably taught joe. >> i want to talk about, we were at a dinner last night, you appreciated how insecure or unsecure our cyberworld really is. people talking about attacks literally happening as we're speaking. >> yeah, at dinner somebody is getting word that they're being attacked. >> it's an amazing thing. >> they're sitting with an fbi person. okay. am i supposed to tell him? >> you have an idea which is to separate out the current internet we live in today and to create almost a parallel internet. >> i don't think it's a physical parallel internet, but something that darpa, which helped create the original arpa internet, which created clean slate, you can have a part of the internet, a set of protocols, in which not only do you know where the packets are going to but you know where the packets came from. that's one of the genetic flaws built into the original internet in the 1970s. you never know where the packets are coming from you can be anonymous, a hacker, a bot.

but the assistant attorney general for national security, john carlin, told you yesterday that there's lesson here for businesses that have to protect their own secrets. >> for businesses watching today, the threat of insiders is real. what can happen is that you have amazing defenses to protect your intellectual property, other secrets from those who are trying to obtain them outside the company walls, but you forget to have a program where you watch those who you trust. those -- the abuse of that trust is within of the most serious threats a company could face. >> the "new york times" reports that martin is suspected of taking the highly classified computer code developed by the nsa to break into the systems of adversaries like iran, north korea and others, but it's not clear what he did with that data. they said they found it in his house. did he pass it on to a wikileaks or a shadow broker entity? was he working with a foreign intelligence service. all of that still to come. we had a lot of nsa officials in the room yesterday in cambridge, massachusetts as this story broke. i talke

john carlin is u.s. assistance attorney general. >> what can happen is you have amazing defenses to protect your intellectual property. but you forget sometimes to have a program where you're watching those who you trust. >> reporter: booz allen says it fired martin immediately once it learned of his arrest. and that it is cooperating with this investigation. martin's record shows a past harassment in 2003, which was later dismissed. charlie? >> jeff, thanks. >>> donald trump and hillary clinton are starting to focus on sunday's second presidential debate. both sides claim victory in tuesday's vice presidential debate but trump and his running mate mike pence say they got a bigger boost. nancy cordes has the candidates' reaction and looks ahead to this weekend's rematch. nancy, good morning. >> good morning. at the very least it's a psychological advantage for the trump campaign after one of in nevada trump said pence's performance showed how great his own judgment was for choosing pence as a running mat

john carlin is the u.s. assistant attorney general. >> you forget sometimes to have a program where you're watching those who you trust. >> reporter: booz allen said it fired martin immediately once it learned of his arrest and is cooperating with this arrest. martin's record shows a past misdemeanor charge for computer harassment in 2003 which was later dismissed. >>> donald trump and hillary clinton are starting to focus on sunday's second presidential debate. both sides claim victory in tuesday's vice presidential debate. but trump and his running mate mike pence say they got a bigger boost. nancy cordes looks at the rematch. >> reporter: one of trump's roughest weeks in nevada. ed pence's performance how great his own judgment was for choosing pence for a running mate. >> didn't mike pence do a great job? >> some people think i won. >> reporter: mike pence and donald trump did a victory lap through three battleground states on wednesday. >> from where i sat, donald trump won that debate. >> reporter: tru

. >> senator john carlin was on "power lunch" and he spoke about this recent arrest. >> this was donententionally, and when you're a government employee, you swear an oath to protect information, knowing the damage that the disclosure of sensitive sources and methods can do to our ability to protect ourselves against all sorts of foreign threats. so we take this type of case very seriously. >> joining us right now from the cyber summit, david kennedy is ceo of trusted sec. he himself is an employee of the nsa. howard martin, is that the suspect's name? >> that's right. >> what do we know about him, and do we have a notion of why he was stealing this? he didn't seem to have the same kind of political motivations that edward snowden did, right? >> we actually see a long lineage of this happening all the way dating back to world war ii where you had folks who would defect to other countries, such as russia and china, to sell these secrets. these type of tools that are used to infiltrate and attack other countries are very valuable to this country, so you can get millions and millions of

with house homeland security committee chair michael mccalcc john carlin, and white house homeland security advisor lisa monaco. >> please welcome to the stage karen greenberg, director of the center of national security at the fordham university school of law and henna shamsey, the director of the national security project at the american civil liberties union. please welcome back the "atlantic's" steve clemens to lead the conversation. >> greetings, everybody, i'm back and don't forget you're going to get to ask the first question so -- back here. karen greenberg is the author of rogue justice, a book -- and we wanted to note for you in advance because she's cool, you'll be signing your books for those who want them after. so we're thinking 15 years, what has happened and a lot of our discussion has focused on getting the bad guys, i'm interested in what the state of our soul is. part of the equation was targeted killings, rendition, drones, a whole new infrastructure of dealing with detainees in guantanamo and, karen, i want to ask you, you know in the waves of fear that drove a lot of d

john miller reporting 49 degrees in santa rosa. happy friday. it's dark, with a chance of light. ah, well, gosh, that's a little george carlin-like, isn't it? the hippidt dipety weatherman. it's the shield of clouds and return of the marine layer. it's poised offshore. we'll be pushing back onshore later this afternoon for the first half of your day sunny and brighter than the second half at least along the seashore. tomorrow partly cloudy skies. unsettled weather in your forecast from sunday through wednesday. here's futurecast. here's lunch hour. you see the clock there? okay. so we have the marine layer now playing tag with the san mateo coast. that's going to resort to more of a, um, west flow 10 to 15 miles per hour some cooler temperatures. then we have this right here, a swath of clouds all associated with an area of low pressure that was tapping into atmospheric river conditions. so the bottom line, we will turn partly to mostly cloudy on saturday with the clouds also on sunday. and now we're delaying the rain chances until monday and, in fact, it's looking strong that we'll have the rain on monday and tuesday. until then under the