next is john carlin, he is the recently former, he was the assistant attorney general for national security until only a few days ago. he is the nation's top national security attorney overseen 400 employees. that's responsible for protecting the country against international espionage, terrorism, cyber breaches, and other and other national security interests. we have susanna who is director of common causes voting integrity campaign which is aimed at repairing and strengthening voting systems at the state and national level. she is co-author of an important report called secret ballot at risk, among various other writings

next is john carlin, he is the recently former, he was the assistant attorney general for national security until only a few days ago. he is the nation's top national security attorney overseen 400 employees. that's responsible for protecting the country against international espionage, terrorism, cyber breaches, and other and other national security interests. we have susanna who is director of common causes voting integrity campaign which is aimed at repairing and strengthening voting systems at the state and national level. she is co-author of an important report called secret ballot at risk, among various other writings. finally we have trevor potter, former chairman of the federal election commission, appointed in 1991 by president george hw bush. he hw bush. he served as general counsel to senator john mccain in 2,002,008 presidential campaign. he is our go to election lawyer. he was was very involved in the reports that we had back into the 90s. also he is known to many of us as the lawyer for stephen colbert's america's for a better tomorrow, tomorrow. [laughter] our moderator is da

let's bring in john carlin. together, we were at the cybersummit in boston before you left public service. if you had three things that you would like to advise the new administration to do, in in terms of cybersecurity, what would they be? >> let's start with the backdrop. the threat is real. whether it comes to terrorists who through cybermeans broke into a major retail corporation, stole names and addresses, handed it to a terrorist group to create a kill list that was then pushed back to the united states through twitter, or iranian affiliated actors li s d to the revolutionary guard core there who hacked into a dam here in new york area, and if that dam had been working, would have been able to lift this loose control system and cause flooding. this -- the threat is here and only going to go worse. we made progress against it. but not enough given the speed with which the technology is changing and where we're adapting to it. >> number one -- >> recognize the problem. and then bring deterrents to bear. offe