john carlin. q estion, tragedy all the way around. k you both. >> thank you. >> woodruff: in the day's other news, white house chief of staff john kelly ordered an overhaul the personnel security clearance process. he has taken a barrage of criticism over disclosures that former aide rob porter had access to classified material, despite allegations of domestic abuse and a failure to gain security clearance approval. the "washington post" reports that kelly sent a fie memo to top aides today, saying that the white house "must do better the blame game raged today over l.e senate's failure to advance an immigration b president trump started, on the issue of young people who had been protected from deportation tsder daca, a program he w to end. in a morning tweet, he said, "cannot believe how badly daca recipients have been treated by the democrats." democratic senator dick durbin of illinois shot back, saying, "give a break. you killed daca." former republican partyin presidential n mitt romney announced today that he attempting a politic

john carlin is former assistant attorney general for the department of justice and now with the aspen institute good to have you here. first, tell us your initial assessment as you hear about the indictment >> this is a groundbreaking indictment that lays out the scope and scale of a campaign by the russian government to interfere with our elections, that ranged from making payments to buy political advertisements while falsely claiming to be u.s. persons that included staging political rallies inside the united states while secretly posing as u.s. ground roots or u.s. persons and again, hiding their identities and working on russian interests to communicate with people inside the trump campaign and elsewhere in order to achieve their goal. and their goal, make no mistake about it, is to undermine our democratic system. >> the market is acting in a particular way, mr. carlin, when the news first broke about the indictments, the markets started to fall. rosenstein starts to talk, and says no indication that anybody in the trump administration knowingly talked to russians, they appear t