john casek is fun to deal with. as fallout with serving with him, his wife got pregnant with twins, i was still practicing. i got the update every week about how the twins were progressing. i think there is a loss. the coo was about not being true to what you say. wasn't about being angry. it was about here is the team i came to sign up for and the team's leadership is not how they recruited all of us. if you don't trust people to do what they say you are not going to follow and we had come to a point in time where we saw the politics was more important to our leadership than the principles. >> host: what is your current relationship with newt gingrich and dick armey? >> guest: it is interesting. the observation and dick armey as soon as he announced he wasn't running again, in other words wasn't going to run for congress again, look at his voting record. once you are in leadership, your job changes and you start seeing how it is important to make the trains run on time and for the life of me, be in leadership and s