john casic raised $1.6 million last month and ed fits gerald, in the thousands. but i think he is going to run for president and going to run up the margin this year. he doesn't want to talk about it but he ran for president in 2000 dropped out when bush became the nominee. but he has the right kind of profile. he has a record he can point to in ohio, obviously a presidential swing state. in congress, chairman of the house budget can he in the 90s. so i think he is not on a lot of those 2016 lists, he's not in washington so we don't talk about him as much as a marco rubio or rand paul but john is someone to definitely keep an eye on. host: that's a good point you bring up, which is what does the outcome of these elections sort of say about which party will sort of have momentum going into 2016? guest: in a lot of ways the governors races are more important than the senate races for deciding the 2016 dynamic. and really, because there's going to be gridlock in congress no matter what, the republicans are going to control the house so obama is not going to advance

john casic or ed fitzgerald? the fact is if you are a pragmatist and don't care what happens in the state, you are going to care in november of 2016 and what kind of political apparatus they set up and the governmental apparatus they set up to ensure a full and fair election in 2016. all those things are important. >> they sure as hell are. it's amazing how governor christie came to the conclusion on teachers he got rid of. he's now an ebola expert and come to the conclusion that everybody who is running for governor against his z people are so damn corrupt he could not run an election. rick scott, john casic, walker and snyder are overlooking the elections. that's the only way it's going to be fair. he can't find one democrat in this country who has gone along with the voter suppression the republicans put up state by state. christie is right. it's an incredibly important election. republicans want to make all the rules and the governors christie listed in the soundbyte, they have led the charge when it comes to

john casic raised $1.6 million last month and ed fits gerald, in the thousands. but i think he is going to run for president and going to run up the margin this year. he doesn't want to talk about it but he ran for president in 2000 dropped out when bush became the nominee. but he has the right kind of profile. he has a record he can point to in ohio, obviously a presidential swing state. in congress, chairman of the house budget can he in the 90s. so i think he is not on a lot of those 2016 lists, he's not in washington so we don't talk about him as much as a marco rubio or rand paul but john is someone to definitely keep an eye on. host: that's a good point you bring up, which is what does the outcome of these elections sort of say about which party will sort of have momentum going into 2016? guest: in a lot of ways the governors races are more important than the senate races for deciding the 2016 dynamic. and really, because there's going to be gridlock in congress no matter what, the republicans are going to control the house so obama is not going to advance

>> i'm here in ohio, rob portman, john casic.se are two people here in one state. >> it's great to see you always. >> my car, good to see you. >> take me riding again. i'd go. that was so much fun. >> have you ever been on a horse, joe? >> i have. >> yes, i have. its quite a sight. >> are your legs dragging on the ground? >> we'll get you a big one if you come our way. >> he was very nice. >> nice. >> and actually, before he did some stuff on stage yesterday, my mom called and they talked on the phone. >> pretty remarkable. >> my mom likes him very much. >> she has moved on mitt romney. >> they were chatting. i had to pull the phone away from him. i wasn't sure who i was saving from whom. >>> coming up, the big.and politics, why this is the year the political ad lost its soul. we'll be right back. how much money do you have in your pocket right now? i have $40, $21. could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement? i don't think so. well if you start putting that towards your retireme

we're going to be asking the governor john casic about that when he has a news conference about an hour from now. >>> the cdc says it is going to roll out new clear guidelines on protective gear for healthcare workers. and that could happen as soon as today. nick valencia joins us from dallas. and doctors are going overseas to help contain ebola. what kind of training are they getting. >> reporter: earlier this week i spent time in aniston alabama. cdc is training the doctors and nurse there is on their ways to countries in west africa. they are training them. a lot is about muscle memory. it is very meticulous. and it is also about the buddy system. >> in an abandoned building in aniston, alabama healthcare workers are getting a the crash course on treating ebola. this group of doctors and nurses will soon head to three countries affected by the ebola outbreak. he says the training he gets today will mean the difference between life and death. >> we saw you struggle a little bit. >> yeah it's not easy. and that was a large size. and i'm not a large guy but still i could not get those k