same writer, john cassidy, new yorker, this week six years later, portrays you in a diaper and he saysell, the gop pushed grover over the cliff. if you were a stock i would sell you. >> again, something was said to years ago when we are coming up on the fiscal cliff in and people trying to make -- if you're trying to argue we should raise taxes and you can attack me personally because the tax issue is a little bit bigger -- >> it's not attacking you personally. it's thing, it's not so much a mathematical argument that it's an argument has been a tectonic change in weight these issues are recorded, even by a lot of top republicans. >> that would be interesting except it's not too. the same six guys, republican the talked about maybe raising taxes at the same six people they have brought out two years ago saying the same thing. and again, they didn't raise taxes before. they just thought about it. i don't want to be too rough on the saxby chambliss but he's never voted for taxes. he just talking out loud about maybe someday doing them. again, we have 92 plus guys in the house and senate

john cassidy in "the new yorker"." how grover norquist keeps the conservative movement together. same writer, "new yorker" this week, six years later portrayed you in a diaper and says "will the g.o.p. push grover off the cliff"? >> again, we were on the fiscal cliff then. and attack me personally. >> there has been -- not so much a math argument but an argument that there has been a change in the way these issues are regarded, even by a lot of top republicans. . >> they are the same six people they brought out two years ago. saying the same thing. and again, and they didn't raise taxes before. they just thought about it. which is why you got into the impure thought. i don't want to be too rough on chand less. he talked about may be someday doing the tax increases. again, we have 92-plus guys in the house and senate who have taken the commitment. we have governors and state legislators who have taken the pledge. the reason why it's easier for me, i mean, you could have said, you could have written a story in 1990 when bush broke the pledge, first president to ever sign the pledge

john cassidy in "the new yorker". how grover norquist keeps the conservative movement together.ame writer, "new yorker" this week, six years later portrayed you in a diaper and says "will the g.o.p. push grover off the cliff"? >> again, we were on the fiscal cliff then. and attack me personally. >> there has been -- not so much a math argument but an argument that there has been a change in the way these issues are regarded, even by a lot of top republicans. >> they are the same six people they brought out two years ago. saying the same thing. and again, and they didn't raise taxes before. they just thought about it. which is why you got into the impure thought. i don't want to be too rough on him. he talked about may be someday doing the tax increases. again, we have 92-plus guys in the house and senate who have taken the commitment. we have governors and state legislators who have taken the pledge. the reason why it's easier for me, i mean, you could have said, you could have written a story in 1990 when bush broke the pledge, first president to ever sign the pledge, reagan he