board and the petition isn't worth a response from john cato. reporting several obviously false names among the initial 80 petition signatures from hulk hogan and i am nuts. it is unclear who added these names but it is clear the poster of at least one was deliberately trying to undermine the petition. as for john cato, they may be saying it is not worth their time to comment on this petition but they do say he cares deeply for the metro riders and personally road trains over the past week to see what they are going there. andrew stack, 9news now and wusa9.com. >> thank you, andrew. >>> we have got a deal for you. all you can supply for $599. you'll want to stick around for that one. nasa and things that go bump in the night. are we sitting ducks? you won't want to miss this story. we will be back in two minutes. f karl, don't you have friends coming over? yeah, so? it stinks in here! have you smelled this chair? or these curtains? you've gotta wash this whole room! are you kidding? wash it?! let's wash it with febreze! whoa! [ sniffs ] hey mrs.

moat of the metro's problems stem from a lack of money and general manager john catoe said without helprom the government, your safety is on the line. >> catoe said congress should approve the money right away. sarah simmons has more on catoe's pleas for more money. >> reporter: good morning. general manager john catoe made that plea before a senate subcommittee on banking and housing. in his appearance, he said the money is needed now in order just to keep the system safety point. he is saying that the lack of money is really metro's main problem at this point. transportation officials y more than $7 billion is needed in the next 10 years for capital projects and $150 million for the next fiscal year just for capital requests. at a request that has been approved by the house. d.c., maryland and virginia have already agreed to match that money. metro has stepped up its efforts to get the federal money because budget issue are a big problem for local governments that do fund metro already. general manager john catoe spoke before the senate subcommittee yesterday. >> the funding provided

. >>> we begin with a plea for help from metro general manager john catoe he says they need $150 million in federal funding for exam projects. 9 news now digital correspondent, armando trull , is live outside of the fort totten metro station with more. >> reporter: that $150 million is a drop in the bucket when you look at metro's long-term financial needs. and that's why metro's top man was on captiol hill yesterday singing that old depression era song "pro brother can you spare a dime." >>> metro is seeking $7 billion to make the movements needed to remain tape safe reliable service. the general manager is hoping a big chunk of change will come from uncle sam. he ask the senate to follow the house's lead an approve $150 million for capital improvements next year. that amount, cato said will be matched by maryland, virginia and the district. the meeting lasted 75 minutes and a good deal of the discussion centered on june 22nd fatal crash and what steps could be taken to prevent similar accidents in the future. now, andrea, it is very likely the senate will move quickly tie prove the $15

but a senior member of the metro board is rallying behind metro general manager, john cato. tom sherwood explains why. >> reporter: from the major wreck in june and its investigation, to worker death, track suicides and transit operators talking on cell phones, it's been a rough year for the aging metro system. >> are you worried at all that it's losing its luster? >> of course. any time there's a period, from time to time things happen that create the kind of problems. and certainly on the level of perception, everyone involved has to be concerned. ♪ >> reporter: on the wamu radio program friday -- >> today we'll be talking about metro's problems. board member chris zimmerman. >> reporter: arlington county's chris zimmerman gave an unqualified endorsement of metro general manager, john cato, in the midst of all the system's troubles. >> those who know him throughout the industry where he's been prominently through the decades now, generally regard john cato if not the best, among the very best general managers in transit that this country has. >> reporter: cato earns about

metro's general manager john catoe is hoping a chunk of change will come from uncle sam. he asked the senate to follow the house's lead and approve $150 million for capital improvements next year. that amount would be matched by maryland, virginia and the district. the meeting lasted 75 minutes and a good deal of the discussion centered on june 22nd fatal crash and what steps cokebed tan tobe taken to preve similar accidents in the future. catoe said that lack of money were not the cause of the accident but had there been money to replace some of the cars the damage would have been less. >>> after 20 years of debate it is full speed ahead for the purple line project to connect montgomery and prince georges county. governor o'malley yesterday announced what he calls the locally preferred option, light rail. he said it is a good idea for three reasons. >> it is the cost cost effective. number two, it is the most sustainable. number three, it is the more efficient and rider-friendly option available to us. >> reporter: however, some residents voiced environmental concerns be

problems, a senior member of the metro system board today strongly backed metro general manager john catoe. arlington board member chris zimmerman says that metro should re-sign catoe when his three-year contract expires next january. tom sherwood reports. >> reporter: from the major wreck in june and its investigation to worker death, track suicides and transit operators talking on cell phones, it has been a rough year for the aging metro system. are you worried at all that it is losing its luster? >> of course. any time there is a period -- you know, from time to time things happen. you know, create the -- this kind of problem and certainly on the level of perception everyone involved has to be concerned. >> reporter: on the wamu radio program friday -- >> today we will be talking about metro's problems with wamata board member. >> reporter: arlington county's chris zimmerman, member of the board, gave an unqualified endorsement of metro general manager john catoe. in the midst of all the system's troubles. >> those who know him throughout the industry where he has been prominent leader

el principal problema que enfrenta el metro es la falta de plata, segun su gerente general john catoe el ejecutivo durante una audiencia de un subcomite senatorial dijo que se necesitan 7- mil millones de dolares en los proximos 10- anos para mejorar el mantenimientdel sistema que se ha visto plagado de problemas en los ultimos meses...si no se reciben esos fondos el servicio y la seguridad corren peligro sentencio, catoe... pero por otra parte, el metro dice que su policia ha recibido mas de nueve millones y medio de dolares para organizar equipos especiales contra el terrrorismo... esos equipos aumentaran su patrullaje en las estaciones y otras dependencias del metro... tambien seran contratados nuevos oficiales de policia... el metro tambien ha recibido casi dos millones de dolares para mejorar sus equipos de deteccion de agentes quimicos y para mejorar la comunicacion e tuneles y estaciones en prince george...mientras tanto en prin willam un reporte recientemente divulgado dice que solo un 3 por ciento de los arrestados por delitos serios son indocumentados esos delitos incluyen a

that's the message from metro general manager john catoe to a group of lawmakers. he is pleading for more medal dollars -- federal dollars to keep commuters safe. sarah simmons joins us live from downtown with more on the metro money matters. >> reporter: he made the plea before a senate subcommittee yesterday but lawmakers on capitol hill are paying attention to this after the june 22nd crash on the red line. now catoe was saying that the money is needed for improvements but not just that, but just in order to keep the system safe. he is saying that the lack of money is the main problem at this point and the transportation officials say that more than $11.4 billion is needed over the next 10 years and $150 billion for the next fiscal year. it's a request that has been approved for $150 million. d.c., maryland and virginia have agreed to match the money and metro has stepped up efforts to get the federal dollars because budget issues are a problem for local governments that do fund metro. john catoe spoke about the need for funding over the next decade before the s

the onli petition calls on the wmata board of directors to remove metro general manager john catoe. it has fewer than 100 signatures at this hour but its dakoeur mem some serious alga s.on s.e petition states in the wake tofhe horrificunnd, h ascron 9, crasoned re linh meo'seds r lins me laco armyinlaar cglletha t current managements unable to safely administerilra mroetil so ems.sy the petition notes a failure t . ta es blish and maintain a culture .ffety as the public face ofo, trmetr tys the rpoitnsoibil ty operate a safls aln sto sherlds.s. finally, it claims heas hleasaid to be airthcndfo ag ransparent about the curre state of the system. for mr. catoe's part when asked about remaining at his post, he has repeatedly said he wants to focus on finding the cause of the accident on june 22nd, implementing change and continuing to earn the confidence of metro riders. catoe was named the nation's 2009 top public transportation manager by the american public transportation association for making outstanding contributions to the public transportion industry. the metro board of director

that is why general manager john catoe was before the senate subcommittee yesterday on banking, housing urbana fairs talking about the fact that if they do not receive sufficient funding, metro, that is, that safety and service will decline. now, catoe expressed that the lack of ney is really metro's biggest problem at this point. officials say metro needs more than $7 billion for capital projects over the next 10 years. catoe also was pushing for $150 million for the next fiscal year, a request that was already approved by the house and having to go before the senate. metro officials are considering this just a first installment with d.c., maryland and virginia having to agree to match that amount as well. catoe says in the hearing before the subcommittee yesterday that they need the money asap because metro is feeling its age. >> to use a comparison that any house owner would understand or relate to, our crowded house is now 33 years old and our nodes go far beyond the spring cleaning and a fresh coat of paint. we have a wet basement, rusty pipes, cracked tiles, old electrical wiring

without the money, john catoe said that safety will decline. metro says it needs more than $7 billion over the next 10 years in order to keep things going. the house has approved it and the senate is considering $1.5 billion over 10 years. that money would be matched by d.c., maryland, and virginia. this could be the last year seven fairfax county elementary schools could go year round. the county school board had to trimts budget this year by $150 million and faces a budget deficit of at least that amount next year. by returning the schools to a traditional school calendar, the school system would save $2.5 million. >>> let's talk about the weather. the skies could open up a bit today. we might actually see some severe weather. adam caskey joins us now. >> there is a slight chance of seeing a few severe thunderstorms, mainly south of the metro area. these will be run-of-the-ml thunderstorms very fast moving. t'l's look at thileshi -- let's soe esof they are in and arond luray, north of harrisonburg. that action will continue to push to the nor

. >>> a local blogger started a one man campaign on-line to bring down john catoe. he rides the metro's red line every day and he says metro's inability to point a finger at a person or thing responsible for the crash can only mean one thing. >> is john catoe the man that should be running this system when a lot of work needs to be done. i am sick of excuses and want there to be result and real change. >> they say the petition isn't worth a response from catoe. they point to several obvious false names among the signatures like hulk hogan and i.m. nuts. >>> today the kennedy family is holding a wake for shriver. thousands are expected to pack the church. mrs. shriver who founded the special olympics died tuesday morning at age 88. the family will hold a private funeral mass tomorrow. >>> tonight the environmental protection agency will ask your opinion on how president obama should tackle cleanup of the chesapeake bay. agency officials are holding a town meeting in frederick, maryland and met with bay advocate groups in annapolis to explore what methods are helping

. >>> john catoe has been sharply criticized especially following the deadly crash in june.logger has an on-line petition to get him fired. david stroup is the blogger and daily rider of the red line. he admits some signatures are fake but says the message is real. >> i wanted to raise awareness. i want people to say someone at metro should be accountable. i want people to think, i want them to think should john catoe be running the system at a point in time when a lot of work needs to be done. >> reporter: say they stroup's position isn't work a comment. >>> the nationals and braves wrapped up their series last night. ment is' adam laroche had a pair of home runs and a the nats lose 6-and visit the reds tonight effort team usa's winless streak in mexico is up to 24 games. the goal in the 82ened minute broke a one-all tie yesterday. mexico topped the u.s. 2-1 in the world cup qualifier. >>> our time coming up on 5 6:51. 73-degrees here in northwest washington. another military find in the spring valley neighborhood of the district. in three minutes, what the army corps has f

the general manager, john catoe worked the crowd handing out informational pamphlets to the riders. >> the agency has been handing out wires the last few days to the customers on the red line to have them understand some of the disruptions that might go on and for notice apologize for that and to give them some information when we think the system is going tcome back to the normal schedule. >> metro's web site has a page dedicated to keeping customers informed. it's not your grandfather's light rail. that's what maryland governor martin o'malley says about the state's proposal for purple line. a project dogged by protests since day one. announced a light rail, not a bus system is the choice of travel from bethesda to new carlton. sarah simmons has the news edge on that one. >> reporter: the purple line is 10 years in the making. today the governor announced the plan is n place for light rail. thnext step is asking for the money in order to do it. the dream of the purple line is on paper. after years of debate over bus or light rail, martin o'malley made the announcement today. >> we a

. >> reporter: metro general manager john catoe says the good news is metro will start replacing track circuitry, including several thousand feet of cable and track and circuit- related hardware. that process is expected to take 30 days. the bad news? passengers will continue to experience delays on the redline. >> the trains reach that point in either direction, they have to slow up and slowly proceed through that segment. once we do these repairs, they will be able to operate normal schedule. >> reporter: to help passengers through the process, metro will assign additional workers to high volume redline stations during rush hour to assist with crowds. they will also distribute flyers to passengers getting on and off the trains. meanwhile the n.t.s.b. is still trying to figure out exactly what caused the accident. >> the ntsb has indicated in their release they have several modules from our control room and they're running various tests on those modules -- [ inaudible ] i do not have any other information when those tests will be completed. >> reporter: the ntsb investigation may take

. >> reporter: a plea for help from metro general manager john catoe. the head of the region's transit system says it needs $150 million in federal funding for capital projects. our 9 news now digital correspondent armando trull has more from metro's fort totten station. >> reporter: metro is seeking $7 billion over the then next ten years order to make capital improvements needed to maintain safe, reliable service. >> i think they can get everything they can get because it has been really rough. an hour each way and a lot of repairs need to be done. whatever congress will give them they need. >> reporter: metro's general manager is hoping a big chunk of change will come from uncle sam. >> bring it on. because it is such an important part of our city here in dc and most of the people are federal employees that ride it so it is helping everybody. >> reporter: catoe has asked them to approve the senate's lead and approve $150 million for next year. the amount will be matched by maryland, virginia and the district. the meeting with three senators from the

john catoe is asking a subcommittee to approve federal funding for capital projects which would be matched by maryland, the district and virginia. in a hearing yesterday, he acknowledged damage to the striking train in june's deadly rail line crash would have been less had it not been one of the oldest models. >>> authorities say the gunman who opened fire at a pittsburgh health club used several weapons. he killed three women before killing himself. nine others were injured including one who witnessed it. >>> two american journalists are on their way home this morning. former president clinton left north korea with ling and lee. happy news for their families. what about for us? are we in the pink as your tie suggests. >> the next couple of days temperatures will be down. showers and thunderstorms in the forecast which will help but by the weekend not going to show you the seven day but let me tell you the second half is wow as it gets warmer around here. high, thin clouds has kept the fog away overnight. showers in pennsylvania an outstrnwe virginia. of town. e a better westch stu this of

john catoe says they will stay that way until he is satisfied that all problems related to the crash are fixed. the red line trains are expected to be on schedule. a cracked rail was discovered yesterday. trains took turns sharing one track. that track was repaired overnight. >>> president obama bowl welcome some nascar stars at the white house. then he will take his health- care plan to religious leaders in a separate conference call liberal democrats say it is reform bill cannot pass unless it does incle the government- run insurance option. there has been criticism about this. another -- they are seeking in detail financial records from dozens of insurance companies as part of an investigation into compensation packages. >>> 8 minister after the hour. >> still to come, it looks like the reign of the cd is almost over. we havthe latest numbers. >> it is a difference "rain" we could be seeing with hurricane bill. we will have a all coming up for you. >> lisa baden will be back with another look at your morning commute. you're watching "good morning washington." ." >>> welcome back o

metro general manager john cato says that trains will not run automatically again until problems related to the crash are fixed. when operators are controlling the trains, they spend more time at station platforms and take more time to accelerate. >>> a 14-year-old girl hit by stray bullets inside her own home is talking about the experience. it i a story we first brought you yesterday morning. the gunfire came from outside the girl's home in the hanson ridge neighborhood of southeast washington. she was hit twice in the back while getting out of the shower. several other bullets came through the walls of her home, some hit the pillow on her bed. >> i heard a popping come through my window in the wall and it just struck me in the back. >> did you know you had been shot? >> i was grazed. they say if she was laying on her bed on the pillow she would have been shot in the head twice. >> neighbors assay the neighborhood has been plagued by crime within the last couple weeks. >>> we are learning more about a meeting between presibant oma fo ba o and former president bill clinn. iwe en m sat d

metro general manager john catoe says trains won't run automatically again until problems related to the crash are fixed. >>> may be easier for some folks to afford a getaway this fall. amtrak is extending its discounted fare promotion through december 16th. prices for one-way train tickets in the northeast are reduced 25%. that means round trips are available for prices as low as $66. places like philly, new york, and even boston. amtrak says plenty of customers have already taken advantage of the promotion which is why it is being extended through the fall. >>> when "news4 at 4:00" continues, in car dealers hit the brakes on cash for clunkers. they say they are not getting paid. >>> "survivor" richard hatch is behind bars. his sister is speaking out now about his arrest. > a case of day jew view for a paramedic. the surprise he got when he was dispatched to help deliver baby. >>> should she or shouldn't she. latest controversy surrounding michelle obama and her casual wardrobe. >>> we have breaking news right now out of great falls, maryland. that's where six hikers are apparently

we asked john catoe that. he wasn't sure but promised he would find out for us. so far his public lations department has not gotten that out. >> iorking overtime b, auecw ngkise overtime becauoeki d g'tsn etnyt oed g't any better. >>> a metro worker s been killed in an a n enna. s wat a man was hit by a regulator while replacing part of the track on the orange line last night. it spreads gravel and rock on the track to keep it stable. the man hasn't been identified yet. service between west falls church and vienna stations were shut down overnight. they are back open and running by 5:00 this morning. >>> now to new developments in the tragedy on the hudson. divers just found the body of a man in the wreckage of a collision in the water. debris was also found there. the site is in 60 feet of water in the middle of the river. that means the current moved to the new jersey side of the hudson. laura is live with the latest on that search. >> right now we are getting an update and letting us know what has been found. a small plane took off just before striking that he

general manager john catoe pleaded for money to upgrade the system. the house has approved $150 million for the next fiscal year but the senate is still considering the request. overall metro needs about $11 billion over the next ten years, catoe says, for safe and reliable service. >> if we do not receive sufficient funding now, service as well as safety will decline. >> if metro gets its first installment of $150 million, maryland and virginia will all match it. >>> during the height of rush hour monday, metro recved a complaint that a door may have opened on an orange line train. it's out of service right now. this happened as the train moved between the federal center and lafonte plaza stops. nobody was hurt. it's not clear why the door was open. >>> mayor adrian fenty made good on a promise to change his children's school. he confirmed that his twin boys will attend d.c. public schools but he hasn't said where. reports say it's between aeton -- eaton and several other schools. there's no word on an official decision. west elementary is closest to

general manager john cato is promising a thorough investigation. and new questions are now being raised about the safety of the metro trains. "the washington post" reports that metro's destroyed avoidance system may have malfunctioned on march 2 and two trains nearly collided at the potomac avenue station. the operator useless would the emergency brake to avoid hitting another train. a failure of that system is also suspected of contributing to the june 22 crash that killed nine people. these glitches have riders concerned. >> yeah, one episode already, so they need to let us know so we have a righto choose to get on the train or not. >> this is part of a daily life going to and from work, and we should be able to make those decisions on how to get there. >> metro says the two not are not related. the ntsb says investigators are looking into the june 22 crash and learned about the march incident only last week. and a little known local channel called the tristate oversight committee notified investigators about the march incident. that panel has pr

john catoe said the goal is to make sure that metro has the strongest applicants for every open position. undewthannee irne hgin stabdard job aslintcagill be disqualified from the applican pool if they have one or more moving violations withinhe t last three years, more than two points on thrng d t rivirdcore, and any cases ofrivicong under ge influence ofniorf i ifyionse y tnyul a rf assault or any other csrime against people. under the previouir hgin dastobrdan j adacaligupps ntilt s violations were violations were nsidered and icoyprd ul could prove that they had been rehabilitated. >>> there were new promises today the federal government will press on with a cleanup of world war i munitions discovered in an affluent washington neighborhood over the past 16 years. remnants of weapons and traces of dangerous chemicals had been found in the upscale neighborhood of spring valley in northwest d.c. tom sherwood is here with more. >> dooesz congresswoman eleanor holmes norton toured the area today. and she took federal officials with her. in the wealthy spring valley neighborhood of northwe

metro general manager john cato said the repair work will take 30 days. >> once we complete the repairs, we will be able to operate the service at normal speed. and keeping normal schedule. >> reporter: currently, metro trains are required to run at a greatly-reduced speed, about 15 miles per hour through the affected area. riders have been patient, well aware of the reason for the delay. >> very slow sometimes. not very reliable getting downtown. >> reporter: metro's gm said ntsb investigators have removed train control modules from the affected area for examination. >> i have nonformation of the results of those tests. when that is decided, and if any problems are found or any areas that they wish for us to do additional work, they will communicate that to us. and to the public at the same time. >> rorter: metro says it will keep riders updated on the red line repair work through website.ab website. "ws4 today.", >>> this weekendetroet riders can expect some delays, not because of the ongoing investigation, but because of track work. metro is making repairs to the tunnel and replacing

the agency's general manager to step down. 100 or so folks signed an online petition asking for john catoe to resign in the wake of the deadly crash in june. the petition claims that catoe has not done enough to make safety priority. t when asked about his future, catoe said he's focussing on the crash investigation. meanwhile, the american public transportation association named catoe the top public transportation manager of 2009. >>> police questioned the driver after car that flipped over in silver spring this afternoon around 3:30. the police say the driver told them a second car was involved but the second car was not there when police arrived. so far no word on injuries. the crash shut down the southbound lanes of second avenue between 16th and grace church road. >>> a 12-year-old boy is fighting for his life tonight after a serious crash inom germantown. late yesterday afternoon at ridge road and morning star drive. the police say a pickup truck rear ended a car that was trying to make a left-hand turn. four young people were inside that car. they were all taken to the hospital. the

an online petition says john cato hasn't done enough to make safety a priority it states in the wake of the merrific june , 2009 crash on s o' ntrdreline, it has becomed alarmingly clear that the currtan menagemt is t ly feinsaagun adm to safely administer the et mus bra an metro busemsyst. thme transportation asyiassoc op t2009's top public 009 orsption manager.or whensk about whether he'll resi resign, cato says he's focusing on the crash investigation. >>> the ntsb is changing its tune about when metro reported a close call on the tracks. it happened in march at the potomac avenue station. metro says the train safely -- the train's safety system failed. an operator had to usage emergency break to avoid hitting another train in this incident. the ntsb initially said it didn't learn about the incident until last week while it was investigating the deadly crash that happened in june. however, investigators now say metro told them about the close call right after the deadly collision. >>> to the money crisis now. finally good news to report about the econom the federal reserve announc

now there is a push to get rid of general manager john catoe. a petition circulating on facebook and on local blogs is calling for catoe's termination. question to you all this morning is how serious is this effort, and is john catoe becoming a scapegoat for all of the problems that metro is experiencing? >> the answer could be yes and yes. he is, obviously -- he's the obvious scapegoat because all of this has happened. he's the head of the metro operation and we've had all these problems, deadly, serious problems. is question is, how has his watch been? has he failed? there's a debate about that. on the other hand, he inherited the system that had these problems in them before he got there, and tight budgets, less oversight, it all came up in a cropper one time and had really caused a problem. >> i think ultimately, this comes down to what the national transportation safety board determines ultimately was the cause of that wreck and when did they know what, when? there's been some confusion about the reporting of -- they said, well, there have

john catoe is the general manager of the washington area metro authority. it serves the federal government and has recently suffered from tragedy. the subcommittee appreciate you taking time to appear before us during these challenges -- during these challenging times. we look forward to your testimony. please accept our condolences for the tragedy that happened in june and our willingness to work constructively to help move it forward. richard sarles is the executive director of new jersey transit and has a compelling story to tell about its efforts in repair efforts. my home state system has efforts to share. we look forward to hearing those. dr. beverly scott, the general manager and chief executive officer of the metropolitan atlanta rapid transit authority and chair of the american public transportation association. she will bring the perspective of an agency that was not in the april 2009 fta study that has substantial needs. we readily recognize the rail modernization needs exceeds those stated in the study. she will be able to give some thoughts as

john catoe is the general manager of the washington area metro authority. it serves the federal government and has recently suffered from tragedy. the subcommittee appreciate you taking time to appear before us during these challenges -- during these challenging times. we look forward to your testimony. please accept our condolences for the tragedy that happened in june and our willingness to work constructively to help move it forward. richard sarles is the executive director of new jersey transit and has a compelling story to tell about its efforts in repair efforts. my home state system has efforts to share. we look forward to hearing those. dr. beverly scott, the general manager and chief executive officer of the metropolitan atlanta rapid transit authority and chair of the american public transportation association. she will bring the perspective of an agency that was not in the april 2009 fta study that has substantial needs. we readily recognize the rail modernization needs exceeds those stated in the study. she will be able to give some thoughts as

john catoe is the general manager of the washington area metro authority.it serves the federal government and has recently suffered from tragedy. the subcommittee appreciate you taking time to appear before us during these challenges -- during these challenging times. we look forward to your testimony. please accept our condolences for the tragedy that happened in june and our willingness to work constructively to help move it forward. richard sarles is the executive director of new jersey transit and has a compelling story to tell about its efforts in repair efforts. my home state system has efforts to share. we look forward to hearing those. dr. beverly scott, the general manager and chief executive officer of the metropolitan atlanta rapid transit authority and chair of the american public transportation association. she will bring the perspective of an agency that was not in the april 2009 fta study that has substantial needs. we readily recognize the rail modernization needs exceeds those stated in the study. she will be able to give some thoughts as t

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john herrmann, president of herrmann forecasting. and jeff myron, director of undergraduate economic studies at harvard university and senior fellow at the catoen, nice to have you here. john, let me start with you. you do think that perhaps this was the appropriate way to stem the blood not only on wall street but on main street. >> i had an unusual -- economists at merrill, and i sat on the floor while we basically watched all these grenades go off all over the financial market. >> last september. >> last september. and it was just tremendous wounds being inflicted in everything from commercial paper to repo to the municipal bond market to the credit market to every form of collateral. it was unbelievable. it led to the nastiest recession since 1948. >> so you can definitely tie that -- because some people are saying you can't tie that to the recession that's followed. >> no, we just basically shut down the avenues of credit throughout the economy, and without some kind of temporary boost there would be no way to get a loan. i did some numbers. we actually were on your show back in december. we ran some numbers, and we looked at things and

objectivism my also worked at the cato institute at the same time you were there and a committee of congress and the chair did today shin. >> we will now begin with mr. john mackey. >> i never should have agreed to go first right after lunch since nobody is here you do that or they put us in the wrong room. i only have five minutes so i really have to raise the long. someday historians will go back on the 20th century and seat as a great battle that was fought between capitalism and socialism capitalism one by any objective measurement of prosperity want to compare capitalism but yet despite its great victory it did not capture the minds of intellectual or the parts of the people corporations today are the most influential institutions in the world but perceived as selfish, greedy, in explicative, and not trustworthy. the current crisis or recession we are in is being blamed greedy financial corporations in the regulation and free-market as opposed to the bad monetary policy and widespread government incompetence and corruption capitalism one and yet we're in this crisis and capitalism is being blamed for it. they have serious marketing and printing chall