john chapman had scripture urging him on. all things in the world exist from a divine origin clothes with such force in nature has enabled them to exist and perfect their use and correspond to higher

well, if jackson of course is kind of the saintly bully, the person who is a saint is john chapman. very much enjoyed your chapter on johnny appleseed was sort of a disney character i think in our minds, a character of folklore. is there really was a real john shadegg. he really did bring apple to the west. i love the way, you're a poet of course, and a novelist, and i love the way you talk about the apple and its metaphorical power and those the real power of johnny appleseed. >> and for bringing civilization to north america. i had to write about john chapman because most people think he was a creation of all -- walt disney are kind of a cartoon figure. a very real person, john chapman was born in massachusetts in 1774. his father was a minuteman in the revolution, served with washington at long island. the family grew orchard. going all the way back to england. he went into the western force in pennsylvania as a young man and continued across the ohio into ohio, and begin to plant apple trees with seeds. now, even then those orchard us grafted trees. if you planted siege of a one

and i just could not resist writing about john chapman in this book spent another natural man from the same period is of course someone who was warm to the hearts of all taxes, and that is davy crockett. you see chapman as the saint of the westward expansion, but you see crockett as the martyr of the westward expansion but i'm of course, i can barely get past big indicator. chapman was a tinpot on his head. crockett was a dead animal on his head. i don't know what this is about martyrs and saints, that crockett certainly is a fabulous character for what you are doing for the idea of westward expansion. >> well, crockett with a coonskin cap when he was campaigning. when he was appearing as the persona of davy crockett that he had created. i understand that most fancy dress like everybody else. it again his costume. they said he was wearing it when he left memphis coming to texas. but i found crockett a martyr almost from the beginning. if you read his autobiography and his stories, it's a story of failed your. and one of the ways he won votes for people with not only through his humor,

chapman, what is meredith kercher's father saying? >> good morning, alex. johnercher, the father of meredith kercher, has spoken out. he restates some of the points that the family has been making throughout the whole trial, that they believed that their murdered daughter and sister has been forgotten over the four years of court hearings but he goes on to say that this cult of celebrity is demeaning meredith's memory and is disrespectful. he also says that he doesn't think that amanda knox has south veb pretty status. but he says it's more sensitive if amanda knox maintains a low profile. she has maintained a low profile since being released five days ago. she made a statement five days ago and has not been seen since. her family says that she wants to focus on family time together and they wanted to focus on spending time together and also do some simple things that she hasn't been able to do since income prison, walking out in the grass and feeling the grass between his toes. her former boyfriend has been laying low as well. >> there are all of these reports

john brantley and sacked by ed stinson, number 49. >> gary: i think florida has to think about next week. they need to get their quarterback ready for lsu and see chapmanhe road and this will likely be their quarterback for lsu and they need some positive for him in the rest theft game. easy throws. >> verne: there's one. and from the 36 yard line, jordan reed. that's just a really difficult schedule facing the gators. it was with brantley in there and alabama tonight. first time in history they have played back to back regular season games against two top three teams. lsu a big win over kentucky today. >> gary: and back to back to back. you played three national champions from the s.e.c., b alabama, lsu and south carolina. >> verne: personal foul. face mask on the tackle and take another look at the end of play. oh, yeah. midfield at the 49. driskel, nick gentry this time, number 58. >> gary: there's a guy i never talk enough about. nick gentry every time i watch him play and i go why didn't you mention number 58. he's a gamer. he's not a super star but makes plays throughout the whole game. >> verne: and was an important part of one of the key plays

john brantley and sacked by ed stinson, number 49. >> gary: i think florida has to think about next week. they need to get their quarterback ready for lsu and see chapmanhe road and this will likely be their quarterback for lsu and they need some positive for him in the rest theft game. easy throws. >> verne: there's one. and from the 36 yard line, jordan reed. that's just a really difficult schedule facing the gators. it was with brantley in there and alabama tonight. first time in history they have played back to back regular season games against two top three teams. lsu a big win over kentucky today. >> gary: and back to back to back. you played three national champions from the s.e.c., b alabama, lsu and south carolina. >> verne: personal foul. face mask on the tackle and take another look at the end of play. oh, yeah. midfield at the 49. driskel, nick gentry this time, number 58. >> gary: there's a guy i never talk enough about. nick gentry every time i watch him play and i go why didn't you mention number 58. he's a gamer. he's not a super star but makes plays throughout the whole game. >> verne: and was an important part of one of the key plays

john brantley and sacked by ed stinson, number 49. >> gary: i think florida has to think about next week. they need to get their quarterback ready for lsu and see chapmanhe road and this will likely be their quarterback for lsu and they need some positive for him in the rest theft game. easy throws. >> verne: there's one. and from the 36 yard line, jordan reed. that's just a really difficult schedule facing the gators. it was with brantley in there and alabama tonight. first time in history they have played back to back regular season games against two top three teams. lsu a big win over kentucky today. >> gary: and back to back to back. you played three national champions from the s.e.c., b alabama, lsu and south carolina. >> verne: personal foul. face mask on the tackle and take another look at the end of play. oh, yeah. midfield at the 49. driskel, nick gentry this time, number 58. >> gary: there's a guy i never talk enough about. nick gentry every time i watch him play and i go why didn't you mention number 58. he's a gamer. he's not a super star but makes plays throughout the whole game. >> verne: and was an important part of one of the key plays