cameras coming out there's also individuals in there john charles de menezes. who was murdered. by the british police without any apology and his death followed straight after the well they called the seven seven bombings in london that was in two thousand and five. and his death is kind of like evidence of the the disaster of intelligence being built out of i mean in a panicked way this was the pieces were representing the destructive nature of reactionary reactive behavior by the authorities and you could say the same thing about the u.s. response to nine eleven as well i mean that reactive is it just is ended in such a huge monumental the ongoing unfolding disaster that we're still living with. the long terror came every day to valid killing machines with a reported fifteen thousand civilians killed when american drones around the world i spoke to jim bricks in mexico about why he depicted a drone on an afghan rug the project really started years ago i thought i was interested in this and i'm going to start on with. kind of really distancing the experience of war is something