next encounter was when he was campaign manager for john conley. disliked. he summoned his press secretary and said, get him fired. go to the ceo and get him fired. governor, you know those press pastored's allston together and i got nowhere. calmly replied, those sons of ditches. bithces. jim had called no one. in february, 1980 wanted, judy nine went to dinner with sarah and jim. i was the walk on. judy was the nbc white house correspondent. i covered politics for the journal and i asked a bunch of skeptical questions. finally jim looked at me and right, iley was should've gotten your ass fired. we laughed and drank he was always fun. ,t was a great secretary appreciating the dual demands and the cities of loyalty and integrity. it is so fitting, as joe said earlier, that the press brake is named after jim. his first 40 years were impressive, his next 33, even more so. jim was unlucky that march day at the hilton, in the wrong place at the wrong time. but even more important is how lucky he was years earlier when he fell in love with and married

frank was asked what he thought of john conley leaving the democratic party for the republicans and heaid it increases the intellectual value of both tar pis, which was pure frank. probably thought out a little bit, but probably scored away and saved as well with. he had a keep insight into what was going on, a crazy optimism, i have said it before, but i think that frank thinks that duke cacurse still has a chance, but he was able to oversee some pretty incredible moments in our history. not the least of which was serving as rfk's president. >> he was a very witty guy. well, you know, that was -- there's another instance where his wit and his spark, before we even knew what the wordsnark was, this was frank. he was representing did p.r., he was doing pr for jfk, the film, his association with the kennedys, and they have a list and an understanding outside, and robert who was a real critic of the movie of oliver stone came up to the red carpet to get into the screening, and frank said no, you can't come in, you are not on the list, of course he had said terrible things about the film,

our next encounter was when he was campaign manager for john conley.ley was a bigger than life texan, overpowering. he exercised top-down power. i wrote a profile which he disliked. he summoned his press secretary and said, get him fired. go to the ceo and get him fired. jim told him, governor, you know those press bastards all stick together and i got nowhere. conley replied, those sons of bithces. jim had called no one. in february, 1980 wanted, judy nine went to dinner with sarah and jim. i was the walk on. judy was the nbc white house correspondent. i covered politics for the journal and i asked a bunch of skeptical questions. finally jim looked at me and said, conley was right, i should've gotten your ass fired. [laughter] we laughed and drank another glass of wine. he was always fun. it was a great secretary, appreciating the dual demands and the cities of loyalty and integrity. it is so fitting, as joe said earlier, that the press brake is named after jim. his first 40 years were impressive, his next 33, even more so. jim was unlucky that march