and i asked john connally, what "none out" meant.n said, "he was never going to get in money from lyndon johnson. lyndon johnson never forgot and lyndon johnson never forgave." now where did johnson get any of this money to distribute to congressmen? i found documentation of that in the papers. the money came from brown and root, and from other businessmen who needed favors, the oil depletion allowance from the federal government. lyndon johnson was a political genius. he was a junior congressman without any power. how was he going to get it? what is the only thing that he has that no other congressman has? he is the only congressman that those two groups of people, liberal congressmen, many of them who needed money for campaigns, and texas oilman and conservatives who wanted federal influence and were willing to give money to get it. he said, "only give it through me," the money, and all of a sudden he had national political power. host: one of the things i did in preparation for this interview was go back and look at the dates on a

there is a document there, a typed list, both john connally, one of johnson's aides, i think he typedt. there were two typed columns. on the left column was the name of the congressman. the second column was how much money he wanted, and what he wanted the money for, for the campaign of 1940. the amounts were so small in terms of today's politics, you wouldn't believe it. lyndon needs $1500 for last-minute ads. lyndon to try to cheat at the polls needs $500 for poll watchers. but in lyndon johnson's own writing was what he decided to do with each request. if he was going to give the guy the money that he asked for, he wrote, ok. he was going to give them part of the money he asked for, he would write, ok, $500, or ok, $300. sometimes he wrote, none. sometimes he wrote, none out. and i asked john connolly, what "none out" meant. john said, he was never going to get any money from lyndon johnson. lyndon johnson never forgot and never forgave. now where did johnson get any of this money to distribute to congressmen? i found documentation of that in the papers. the money came from brown a

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