. >>> and joining me now is john cox and our analyst, long time veteran pilot, john, let's talk aboutwe know about the air bus 320 and the possibility that this was some catastrophic mechanic there. >> well, the air bus 320 has been in service since the mid 1980s. it is a safe and reliable airplane and with safety errors. so the investigators are going to look at maintenance -- first, we got to find the debris. we are starting to hear some indications, that's the first step. >> and still with us is michael, former chief of staff with the faa. the level of cooperation with the egyptians, of course, is always a concern. >> we have a bit of a cultural clash here. we have french and the russians and egyptians. we are going to have maker of the aircraft itself and ntsb will have to be invited in. you may remember the crash of new york. egyptair 990 where ntsb is clear from everything. egyptian from this day will not admit the cause. while the good news is we have a debris feel and we'll get the black boxes and deflect data. that's the good part. the second part is once again are we going t

john cox, who is now an msnbc aviation analyst was an investigator for the airline pilots association. >> as an investigator, it is one of the tougher ones i had worked, because there were still some of the bodies were still in there. these things are always catastrophic to work. but it is absolutely vital that a group of people do this job so that we understand what happened and don't have a reoccurrence. >> while poor visibility from the tower to the runway and glare shining into the tower are part of the problem, investigators focus on air traffic control. >> air traffic controllers, as a matter of routine, multitask. they are issuing landing clearances, takeoff clearances, so the multitasking on that evening would not have been unusual. it is very unusual for a controller not to remember that they have an airplane in position on a runway. >> but according to the ntsb, that is exactly what happened. it turns out that the local controller simply forgot that skywest was sitting on the runway intersection. >> there were some things that were going on that did get her distracted. 1493

captain john cox is an aviation analyst for nbc news and msnbc.oing to talk with him in just a minute. but i see tom costello sitting there. tom, always good to see you, too. give us a sense. one of the things that has come up is the tracking, being able to find things, having radar on the plane. it's not as easy to locate a plane as one might think, especially in the u.s., people who fly a lot are used to things like wi-fi. even those connections that we're used to don't necessarily exist on many of the planes. >> i think the real concern is when planes are out of radar range, if they're out over bodies of water and they're not covered by radar, and the concern has been, how do you track a plane that is no longer being covered by radar? we've seen that with malaysia flight 370 out over the south indian ocean, that apparently vanished. we still haven't seen or heard from it, really other than pieces of debris over the last two years. and isn't there a better way to track specific locations? what they're talking about now, is whether they can strea

. >> joining us from tampa, retired airline captain, ntsb member john cox. , you've had a lot of experience flying this a-320. it's a reliable plane, one of the most commonly used aircraft, manufactured in 2003. this crew at cruising altitude of 37,000 feet. based on all you've heard about this, what are your impressions here? >> first, let me make one impression. i've never worked for ntsb. i've worked with them extensively. actually working with them, i have not. my experience after flying the airbus for six years is that it's an extremely reliable airplane. what we know so far is very little. it says investigators are looking to gather data. the airplane at 37,000. it stops transmitting data. that says there's an electrical problem. and if you go one step further, there's no secondary radar information. it says that an in-flight breakup is certainly a high possibility. now the question arises what caused the breakupf, in fact, that occurred. that's kind of the steps the investigators are going to take. as a pilot, the fact the airplane is at cruise altitud

let me turn to john cox and greg. greg, let me start with you. your history as being a crash investigator. i want seems as more and more we turn to you when there's these incidents that turn out not to be accidents. you look at this. are you one of this if you look at the facts that you know you think this is not an accident but something nefarious? >> i do. airplanes such as this airbus had no history of structural failure that toledo a serioled accident or incident. the airplane had flown successfully on four other legs. this is the fifth leg. 37,000 feet. cruise environment. nothing taking place. the flight crew is not maneuvering the airplane. it's very benign phase of flight. yet the airplane goes into a very high rate of descent and most likely broke up and the question is why. it was probably not because of anything the crew did, but probably something that occurred on board the airplane and with the new intel from the u.s. that there was an explosion, now the question is was it a mechanical type explosion such as a twa 800 or was it of co

they can't do that much to help you. >> part of my aefrl conversation with john cox. >>> a bit laterhis hour we'll go egypt for the latest from investigators there and for the latest on egyptians and how they are coping with this latest air tragedy. >>> now to politics. donald trump is off the campaign trail today after picking up the coveted endorsement by the nra. in addition to attacking hillary clinton he made this promise to its members while talking about san bernardino and other recent shootings. >> if we had guns on the other side it wouldn't have been that way. boom, free zones, we're getting rid of gun free zones, i can tell you. [ cheers and applause ] >> former president bill clinton is shifting into general election mode with his attacks against the presumptive republican nominee. here's what he told supporters in montana last night about donald trump's rhetoric. >> we're going make america great again that's code for you have been shafted, i'll make at any time way it used to be. what he's really saying to people in the white working class who have a legitimate beef, i'

. >>> let's bring in aviation analyst and former pilot john cox. talk about these smoke conditions, the data that we're getting in the lavatory and the compartment. what does that tell you? >> the thing that's probably the most of the greatest interest to me so far is this event unfolds much more slowly than it initially looked like. there's a three-minute period there's six faults that are generated and that are transmitted to the maintenance facility. there are two smoke events, but also indications of overheating on the wind screens on the right side of the airplane, as well as flight control computer issue. but after these six faults, after the last one of these six faults, the airplane flies on for a period of about four minutes before it starts down. and we know there's electrical power to the airplane. so this event unfolds over a much greater time frame than we initially thought. this tells me as an investigator for something over 30 years that we need to keep every option on the table, it may or may not have been an explosive device, it ma

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and i believe john cox with us, he's an a 320 pilot, as luck would have it. it suggests something was going on in the nose of the plane, right where the flight attendants work, you have the cockpit, the windows, the circuit breakers, the avionics, the flight control system. it would appear there was something going on, probably involving smoke, maybe fire. the question is, was there a fire involving the circuit breakers, or was it an explosion of some sort at the front end of that plane near the galley, near the lav that might have caused a series of cascading events that might have led to tragedy. >> for people who just saw the information on the screen, repeat again the source that is using this information on the web. >> nbc news has now confirmed the authenticity of this information. it originally came from av herald.com, which is a website that a lot of aviation geeks like to go into, they call themselves that lovingly, i think. that was the first website to report this data, now authenticated by nbc news. and u.s. intelligence sources have said they hav

let me bring in nbc news aviation analyst captain john cox, a pilot with u.s. and expert in international aviation safety. thank you so much for your time. there's been a lot of back and forth over whether or not the aircraft swerved, did it drop suddenly at nearly 37,000 feet when it vanished. but when you hear that potentially there was a swerve sudden swerve, what does that sound like to you? >> well, first i want to validate the data, it would be very unusual to have an airplane maneuver in the way that this description is. it sounds as though someone has been briefed and they are trying to put it into terms and in that translation something is getting lost. as an investigator, i would want to look at the data and see what type of event could cause that and also to validate the radar data itself. it is not always precise, you need to be very careful about it. until we have a little bit more information, i'm a little skeptical of that. it's certainly possible but i want to see some validation of that. >> what we do know is the history of the airbus, seen as

i want to bring in msnbc aviation analyst john cox. good to see you this morning. >> good morning, jose. >> let's talk about what is going on. egyptian officials are making a concerted effort to say the plane is lost, not that it possibly crashed. do you believe we'll find out what happened in short order or could this be a long-term process like mh-370 was? >> i think it will come together pretty quickly. they've got a good radar track on the airplane. i expect they're going to be finding debris pretty quickly. that will lead us to the wreckage field. they'll at that point, their pingers on the two important roirders, the flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorder, those two boxes will tell the tale. i agree with tom costello in a couple ever places. one, the track of the airplane having been so abruptly stopped almost and if they find the debris pretty much underneath that last radar position, that will lead investigators to look very seriously at the possibility of an in-flight breakup. this airplane type has been in service si

john cox is an airbus pilot. >> we don't know exactly what it is. but it's a clear indication something was terribly wrong on flight 804. >> reporter: perhaps a sudden fire or electrical failure or even an explosion near the galley. and if it was a bomb, how did it get there? investigators are looking at anyone with access to the plane while it was sitting on the ground, including ramp washers and caters and fuel truck workers. the former heads of tsa global security. >> if it's an insider and he put a device, if it was somebody who had knowledge and put it in an area that could be close to a fuel line, or in some other area that they knew it would be catastrophic, that's very troubling. >> reporter: if it was a bomb, it would be the third attempt in seven months. in february, a bomb in a laptop blew over somalia. last october, a russian jetliner blown out of the sky over egypt. isis released a photo it claimed showed the bomb packed in a soda can. at charles de gaulle airport in paris, dozens of employees with alleged ties to islamic extremism have

i'm going to ask you to stand by, keir, because we want to bring in john cox, the former u.s.ys pilot who joins us by phone. as you're listening to all of this, it seems like they are zeroing in on some debris that may really provide a clue and as keir was saying more importantly, the black boxes hopefully they can find those. that would really answer a whole lot of questions. >> well, finding the debris is certainly one of the first steps because the debris can lead us to the wreckage itself. and within the wreckage of course is the recorders. also, the wreckage will provide some answers to some questions about for example how quickly the airplane came down, some things like that. so this is a -- one of the next steps in the process is finding the debris. we have been looking for it -- for it since yesterday and i'm hopeful that in fact they have located the debris because we need to find those recorders and we need -- for the investigators to have access to the wreckage so that they can understand what happened in the tragedy. >> so what happens if indeed this is the debris,

. >> captain john cox with us from tampa florida, always a flsh to have y-- pleasure to have with yousa is here with us. as a veteran in this line of work, what do you want to see next? what are the questions you would ask if you are task with this investigation? >> well, from the ground perspective, who had access to the airplane and trying to take issues off the table so if you think that somebody got something on the plane, what's the access to the plane and what types of background do they have? what is the aviation security posture is like at charles de gaulle. and it takes us back to the february bombing in the somalia area with the plane and the laptop. could someone could have taken on with their personal items, of course, the last is is there something else that says this is not a terrorist event. it is really important as the captain said to let the evidence and the investigation lead you to where it leads you. that raises the question of why are people not taking credit for this right now. that may one of the reasons. there are reports and you cannot verify these necessaril

aviation consultant john cox showed us at evergreen international, an airplane maintenance and storageity outside tucson, arizona. >> you can see up here the pylon assembly, in which the engine rests on the pylon and then it's attached to the wing. >> it looks like an arm that the engine is hanging off of. that's a very complicated piece of structure. it has to be designed to take a heck of a load from the engines. >> investigators also scrutinize the plane's service history. and that's where the puzzle pieces start to come together. it turns out not to be a design flaw. it's a troubling maintenance practice. >> the whole issue of that accident centered on the maintenance practice of changing an engine with this pylon attached as opposed to the more correct and approved procedure, to take the engine away from the pylon while it was still attached to the airplane. >> to change an engine on the dc-10, the manufacturer recommended detaching the engine from the pylon but leaving the pylon attached to the wing. at the time, engineers from several airlines were using a shortcut. they found i

. >> i'm going to ask you to stand by because we have john cox on the phone.e's a former pilot and hopefully can shed light on what possibly might have been going on in that cockpit at the time. of course, we don't know a definitive answer. john, listening to the situation and the fact it was at 37,000 feet over the mediterraneany di radar, give us an idea what is going on in your head. >> the idea the airplane is at cruz and suddenly disappears makes me question a number of things. is it a communications loss? is it something that is a communication issue? or in fact is the airplane down? we don't know that yet. until we first ascertain that, i'm not sure we can really make any evaluation. if the airplane is down, if in fact it came down from 37,000 feet, it makes us look at in flight issues, whether a breakup, explosion, something like that but one of the safest parts of a flight is during crew a cruise. it's unusual and something the investigative agencies will look at closely. >> let me understand what you just said. are you saying it's possible this plane

let's bring in pilot john cox as well as former senior air and safety investigator with the ntsb, greg fife. john, french investigators confirming smoke conditions aboard this plane. sensors detecting smoke in the front lavatory as well as the avionics compartment. what kind of steps can a crew take to fight a smoke or fire condition on board? >> well, alex, in-flight fire is something that is one of the most terrifying things that can happen to a pilot, but we know a number of things. over three minutes there is smoke indications first from a lavatory which is on the left side of the airplane, and then the avionics bay. there's never been a fire confirmed in the avionics bay of an a-320. there's been short circuits in boxes but never a department fire. this is very, very unusual and something the investigators are going to look at. if the crew did get smoke warnings, which i would expect that they did, they're going to start first and foremost protecting the air that they're breathing. they're going to put their oxygen mask and smoke goggles on, they're going to start down the checkli

the fourth day, let's bring in our aviation analyst and former commercial airline pilot captain john coxknow what they're doing differently today. starting yesterday, the submarines. submarine today trying to find the key black boxes. and when we talk to analysts as such as yourself, they're saying that's what we're looking for right now. we have one piece of information. we want to get that data coming from the black boxes. what will these submarines be doing and how fast might we expect some progress base ond what they're doing? >> well, the submarines are part of the next phase of the investigation. they're looking for two things. first, they have side scanned sonar. they'll be looking for wreckage on the sea floor. secondly, they're going to be listening for the acoustic pingers. it's a clicking sound, actually, more than a ping. they're going to be listening for that very specific, very regular about once a second, once every other second and a half clicking sound. and if they find and hear that, then they'll able to hone in on it and locate those two very, very important recorders.

moments ago she and she says, chairman of the house oversight committee introduced john cox denies resignationr removal and requires the forfeiture of his pension. this is john costigan, head of the irs, the commissioner so deeply involved over targeting of conservatives that the debate were not for two years. the latest headlines still coming out i'm not. what jason tran 11,000 told me just moments ago was that this is a precursor to impeachment. the resolution would have to be passed by the house and the senate to go over and tran 11 -- tran alive and said he's been unsuccessful in this. simply many disapprove of. what they say in this document is that someone failed to comply with subpoenas but the destruction of evidence we've got to testify truthfully under oath. lots of questions about john koskinen. his resignation being called for at this time as a censure. that is what jason chaffetz is now speaking from both houses of congress. we will continue to follow this story. again, koskinen's resignation or removal following the forfeiture of his pension. that is ahead right now. neil: thank

leadership award, please welcome our good friend, joe gregory. >> chris cox is introducing another speaker here, joe gregory. back out to johnit for donald trump. i assume that trump's coming up next. >> he will be up in just a minute here. a couple of speeches yet to be made, then chris cox will back up, he will offer the endorsement, then donald trump will come out. interesting to note that this -- the crowd in freedom hall here, it's almost full to capacity. the only reason why it is not is because there is some seats up in the nose-plead section that they weren't going to sell. but with the thousands of people who are waiting outside to get in, they, a, delayed the program, and b, decided to open a lot of those seats up. really you couldn't put anymore people in here than are already in here under the way that it was structured. maybe put another tho thousand people in here but for the most part the place it full and it holds well over 10,000 people. a lot of people have come out to see donald trump today. really interesting to note, too, folks that i talked to earlier -- i probably talked to 10 or 12 people -- none of t

. >>> i'm john clark from comcast sports net, and eagles workout, only bird not there is cox, sitting out the voluntary sessions waiting for a new deal. bradford is back. former eagles quarterback joined us in studio saying this puts more pressure on sam if he does not play well. he says we'll see carson wentz or chase daniel. here's jaws sinking teeth into bradford missing the last two weeks. >> the fact that he did not show up at those -- although voluntary -- he didn't show up, i think it's insulting to the city. it's insulting to the eagles. it's insulting to teammates, but i can't imagine he would be welcomed back with open arms. i think when a player walks out on the team, he's got apologizing to do when he walks back in the locker room. i'm sure he has done that. he's a standup dpguy. peterson will give him a long leash, but i'm not sure the fans will. >> jaws knows. temple's defensive player of the year, and he had to wait until the seventh round to be drafted with the steelers. here he is at the rookie camp, most decorated player in owls' football history, turned around the p

up with an idea after sirrica says cox is entitled to the tapes, that would be sort of a meddling deal. he said, i will make arrangem t arrangements for senator john stenis, a former judge, someone in the senate who nobody would question his integrity, that he can listen to the tapes, make transcripts of the tapes, and give them to cox. and that is what he wants cox to accept. there is a real flaw -- a couple of flaws in this plan. first of all, it was well-known that john stenis was almost deaf. a little problem to listen to these very difficult-to-hear tapes. and more important, for stenis to make a record of them and then pass them -- the special prosecutor, they were useful to the prosecutor because they were hearsay at that point. they were not -- they were not the tapes themself. they were a -- a version of what stenis had heard or not heard and passed on and really not admissible in evidence, probably. as a result, cox decides -- excuse me -- cox decides to hold a press conference. at the press club on says to the press, i'm going to not accept the compromise. it's unacceptable, and he explained the reasons why he couldn't accept it. it was

. >> john: he didn't electric look like he missed any rhythm from the travel, thrust into the game. that's something bobby coxim in. >> joe: the twips' bullpen is so good they don't need a guy that can throw 95? >> john: i take it there's been adjustments made. the mechanical tip or two. sometimes a new organization, you bounce around and you get something that work and feels good. >> joe: check swing by reynolds. who recently got his first major league hit when he replaced asdrubal cabrera who checked out of the game this week with a bad back. reynolds, the young prospect. 1-2 pitch. two out. 95 again for fien. and the bases are momentum. -- empty. the final batter, possible, walking in, eric campbell. >> john: impressive. wearing an old ex-teammate's number for the dodgers. >> joe: minnesota, by the way, 13 and 34. 13 out in the central at the start of the day. there's a slider from fien. strike 1. nothing but strikes. it's not as if the dodgers are locked down in their bullpen where everybody as a set role and they are effective. all he's done, come in and strikes out the first. eight pitches, all strikes.

john walker, picks up the narrative. >> walked up to the gentlemen and asked him for the time. he looked at his phone. the gives him the time. while he is doing that the young man cold coxin the the jaw and knocking him to the ground. he fell to the side. he didn't hit his heat. >> reporter: video shows at assailant jump on top of the man and took his cell phone. >> the doggies so small, he is trying to bite the ankle but he is unable to. >> reporter: police isolated this video of who they believe is responsible. he is in shorts and light colored hoodie and backpack. they think he is a teen living nearby. >> we are asking neighbors in that community to clearly identify these kid and call our tip line anonymously at 215686-tips. actions like this make bad behavior by young kids unacceptable. >> reporter: thinks person police believe assaulted the dog walker. he was with larger group of kid roaming this area on saturday. sixty-six and malvern is an intersection just behind me here. detectives are hoping that people who live in this area take a very close look at that video, and the hope is that they will know who those kids are or they can give the police some clues. that

john roberts joins us from louisville. >> reporter: we expect donald trump to take the stage in the next few minutes to some breaking news. the nra and executive director chris coxuces donald trump today will announce the full-throated endorsement of the nra to donald trump. this is the first time that i can remember that the nra has ever gotten behind a presidential candidate this