host: john cribb joins us for this discussion, from florida this is mark.r: thank you, good morning. i looked you up, we have many things in common. the one thing i am sure we have in common, we both like boiled peanuts. i grew up in central illinois, lincoln's so-called hometown even though he is not from springfield. my age, born in 58 come before springfield came touristic --which they've done a great job with the old neighborhood, i would ride my bike from one part of town, it was very peaceful. i had a connection to abraham lincoln, it drew me toward him. you being from spartanburg, i spent most of my time in the marine corps in the south, voted for president carter. my question to you would be two questions, one is if you could explain to us abraham lincoln's take on slavery maybe goes back to his childhood as a child labor working for his father, john i believe, on the farm, and being sympathetic to the slaves from his own childhood experiences, looking at them and not seeing much difference. on the river just south of him in indiana. also, if you co