i'm john curie onto we're speaking with american railroad whistleblower, michael paul lindsey the 2nd about his very unique experiences and about his whistle blowing on safety and corporate greed. paul, welcome back to the show. paul. i grew up 15 miles from east palestine, ohio, which was the sight of an absolutely horrible train derailment and chemical spill earlier this year. literally, the entire town was evacuated. farm animals died for miles around, and the ground water was contaminated. the government was very slow to react, and in the end, railroad executives promised a few dollars to those families who had been effective and the router and announced that it would build a park a park. this is a disaster on so many levels. first, tell us how a german and a spill like this could happen. and 2nd, tell us how the railroads get away with causing such destruction as well the cause of the east policy and the roman is, is very simple. and i was just an overheated bearing. you figure if you've ever pulled a trailer or something you just got to watch out for you and all you get bearings