us to put human rights and labor rights on the agenda and to advance legislation on that topic john curtin before i get into basically the nuts and bolts of g. 20 and the issues that are being talked about or even being missed i want to talk about that one of the comments you've made in the past and the whole point of originally of the g. 20 was to resist protectionism do you think this g. 20 summit will be able to follow that mandate. well i certainly am not predicting that they will repeat the tack traditional trays the anti protectionist leggett's known we will refrain from the new protectionist measures and then later they added in their redress which means reduce or removes the ones we've already taken but i am expecting similar language of pointing in the same direction affirming the value will open international law trade are recognizing that trade is a source of but you know my growth highlighting the importance of a rules based trade and indeed doesn't need to urgently reform the world trade organization which many see as being at the center of the global trade system so i think t

and human rights resource center that's a non-governmental organization and on skype from osaka john curtin is the director of the g. 20 research group that's an independent that work of global scholars providing analysis on the g. 20 and in nairobi. economist and c.e.o. of rich management and investment advisory company in kenya welcome to all of you thank you very much for being on the program i want to start with john curtin yarn a sockeye you've been following the developments at the g. 20 very closely my question to you 1st is war he is the g. 20 summit so u.s. centric how come there's so much focus on america's dealings bilaterally with different countries has it always been so u.s. centric or is this a triumph factor. well certainly when the g. 20 summit 1st started it tyros as a consequence of the american turnout lobel financial crisis the day lehman brothers died in downtown new york city september up 215-2008 george bush's united states hosted the 1st rock obama as the united states hosted the 3rd g. 20 summit so much for that reason the united states loomed very large even when

against this g. 20 idea that was there for the last 2 decades and has been disrupted begley and john curtin why do you seen at the summit that gives you some the sense of optimism or at least some sense of optimism that there can be agreements that will benefit the global economy. well it's the trend and before the summit started out when i last saw it was real free trade deep economic integration new free trade deals breaking out in many places of the world when donald trump came into office for example he said i'm going to withdraw from the trans-pacific partnership his 2 closest partners japan and canada said we're not they went ahead and that's why we've got a comprehensive progressive trans-pacific partnership that's why the non is booming we have seen donald trump who said nafta was the worst free trade agreement in the world a shining one now pushing to get it ratified congress a bigger better and more progress and i deal about a week or so ago he threatened to put tara sign mexico but. within a few days we see japan having concluded a bilateral free trade agreement with the european

against this g. 20 idea that was there for the last 2 decades and it's been disrupted begley and john curtin when i do you seen at the summit that gives you some of the sense of optimism or at least some sense of optimism that there can be agreements that will benefit the global economy. well it's a trend and before the summit started now when i last saw it was real free trade deep economic integration new free trade deals breaking out in many places of the world when donald trump came into office for example he said i'm going to withdraw from the trans-pacific partnership his 2 closest partners japan and canada said we're not they went ahead and that's why we've got a comprehensive progressive trans-pacific partnership that's why the non is booming we have seen donald trump who said nafta was the worst free trade agreement in the world a shining one now pushing to get it ratified on various a bigger better on more progress and i deal about a week or so ago he threatened to put tara sign mexico but. within a few days we see japan having concluded a bilateral free trade agreement with the eur