i've asked john dean to start. if you don't know what the crime was, you don't know why there was an investigation. john, would you tell us a little bit about the first week after the june 17, 1972 bungled break-in here in this building? >> as you know, tim, i have trouble looking at that week from the time i lived it to the time i look back on it. today i know a lot more about that week than i did at that time. so i can't help but look at it from hindsight. the cover-up really starts within moments of the white house learning about the fact that five men had been arrested here in this building wearing business suits, rubber gloves, money stashed in their pocket and that they're from the reelection committee. jim mcgruder, the deputy director of the reelection committee, calls bob haldeman who is in florida with the president who happens to be in the bahamas. gets an update very quickly as to what's going on, tells mcgruder that he's got to get back to washington immediately. does that. they put out a press release

richard, how important was john dean's testimony? >> well, it was very, very important. but to fred's litany, i would add two other things. you had to have an opposing party controlling the senate, and you had to have a judge like john sericka, who was willing to follow the evidence and to be aggressive in in not allowing his courtroom to be used to steal further cover. so i watched john dean's testimony before i was appointed to the special prosecutors' office. i saw this young man only four years older than i. i was an assistant u.s. attorney in the southern district of new york at the time. and i saw him drone on and on in that john dean monotone for hours and hours, and i listened to the content and i absolutely couldn't believe that richard nixon, the arch-strategist, whether or not i had other opinions about him, i certainly didn't think that he would be the type of person to allow a young man, inexperienced as john dean was, to have as much authority as john dean seemed to have, according to his testimony, and certainly not to have richard nixon incriminate himsel

and interview john dean. and i felt he was -- i felt he was truthful but looking out for himself is the way i felt about john dean. and, of course, his performance giving that account from memory and then when it was compared to the tapes being so accurate was rather -- my memory is not like that at all. i could not have done that. i just have -- but the tapes did corroborate what he said, but still meeting him, i felt that he was, you know, focusing on his own interests but his own interests coincided with his accurately recalling the meetings he had been in. >> how helpful were the materials from the watergate special prosecution force? >> they were somewhat helpful, but the special prosecutor had a slightly different take on things than john did. john was very good friends with hank rose who was a very important person on the special prosecutor staff, and they'd gone back to civil rights days i think it was, maybe even the neshoba county case together, they knew each other very well, and ruth liked john. i

you have john dean giving testimony. john dean versus president nixon. everything will change, however, when another dramatic moment of testimony occurs before the senate. that is this testimony. rather than me say it, why don't you listen to it. >> are you aware of the installation of any listening devices of the oval office of the president? >> i was aware of listening devices. yes, sir. >> when were those devices placed in the oval office? >> that changes everything. now it is no longer a question of he said/he said, but you actually have -- potentially have evidence. you've got tapes of the president's conversations. now, this is -- this space is designed so you can move around. so i'm going to -- we are going to leave the timeline wall and i'm going to show you the taping system. because we have never had as well documented a presidency in american history and we probably will never have one as well documented. let me show you why. first of all, president nixon was not the first president to tape. franklin roosevelt was the first president to tape.

in any case, peterson did tell john dean. john dean did tell haldeman, nixon's chief of staff, and that's how nixon found out. now, the reason they didn't fire felt right away is because felt, they believe, knew too much. this is just before the election. and even after the election, watergate isn't going away, and they're worried that if felt were, let's say, transferred to butte, montana, which is hoover's favorite tactic, know that he might spill his guts on national television. so they try and tell pat gray he's not to be trusted. in fact, when nixon decides against all the odds to appoint pat gray as the permanent director, he says the first thing i want you to do is put mark felt on a lie detector, and if he fails, i want him fired. yes? >> you said about a third of the things mark told bernstein were incorrect? can you give an example, and did that have an effect on the coverage? >> at one point felt alleged that the reason john mitchell had resigned from the committee to reelect the president is because each of the to

and he said, what shall i tell john dean when he asks me how it is going? tell him he reports to me. if he has a problem, he's got a problem with me. so they never brought it up with me although on the tapes there is discussion between the president and john dean. but it was an improper use of the irs and i wouldn't do it. >> in the 1971 pors of the timeline we include something that people don't associate with watergate. it shows the president's mindset in the summer of 18971. this is when the president ordered halderman to find out the number of jewish americans in the department of labor, bureau of labor statistics. you can listen to the president ordering this from the white house tapes. this led to an illegal action which was an investigation to determine the ethnic background, religious background of members of the united states government. discrimination on the basis of religious affiliation is illegal in our country. this form of governmental power was decided by the house judiciary committee when it described the misuse of power. we include it beca

we interviewed the witnesses obviously before john dean and john mitchell and people like that, but we didn't go out to aggressively investigate the facts. which is something i wanted to do. i felt we had to do. this was my background both as a prosecutor and as a private lawyer. doar was much more cautious about doing it. knowing that we send people out, there will be newspaper stories. who knows what we'll get, how we'll be attacked? so he wanted to take it step by step. other people were gathering information or information was coming. let's just put it together and we'll present it in a neutral fashion. that judgment which some of which i opposed at the time i realized after it was all over happened to be a correct judgment. and i think it was very helpful in at achieving what was the ultimate outcome. at the beginning, we weren't sure. i wasn't sure at least, and i don't think doar was sure either although articles have been written contrary to this, that we were going to recommend impeachment of the president. we didn't come in to -- and this is how i remember it and i truly beli

jim has been working with john dean on the ethics training that stems out of the watergate experience and the question that john asked about how did so many lawyers get in to trouble because of watergate? and so, you will hear from his standpoint, on one hand, a convicted defendant. on the other we have -- >> not me. >> a perspective of a lawyer for a convicted defendant, and on the other hand, someone who was cooperating with the prosecution and who pled guilty and has a focus particularly on representing an organization and what that means as to who your client is when you represent the white house or in the case of arnie when you represent the committee to re-elect the president. so you will have very different perspectives from the two of them. jim is now a partner in thompson high in ohio. and has published two books on the history of the american presidency, and it was actually a common interest in president harding that brought john dean and jim together. so that's a pretty interesting little thing. laurel rigartos, is a professor. and she is the professor's professor and the p

the council to the president, john dean, has also resigned.e new attorney general, i have today named elliott richardson, a man of unimpeachable integrity and rigorously high principle. i have directed him to do everything necessary to ensure that the department of justice has the confidence and the trust of every law-abiding person in this country. i have given him absolute authority to make all decisions bearing upon the prosecution in the watergate case, and related matters. i have instructed him that if he should consider appropriate, he has the authority to name a special supervising prosecutor for matters arising out of the case. whatever may appear to have been the case before, whatever improper activities may yet be discovered in connection with this whole sordid affair, i want the american people, i want you to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that during my term as president, justice will be pursued fairly, fully, and impartially, no matter who is involved. this office is a sacred trust. and i am determined to be worthy of that trust.

john dean tells nixon there's a cancer on the presidency. these phrases and expletive deleted was another one and smoking gun. since then a lot of scandals have picked up the gate, billygate, iran-contragate. monicagate. wikipedia lists hundred gate scandals, including bart and homer simpson. so we look up to watergate to remember, people forget, for you it's all distant history. i recall the 25th anniversary there was a man on street interview in champagne, illinois where i lived and they asked the young college student what was watergate about? oh, some president resign. lyndon johnson, richard nixon, one of those two. we can laugh but it's easy to forget. a poll in germany showed that 20% of german college students do not know, had no idea what auschwitz was. the nazi death camp. they had a reason to forget. when we think of watergate as a triumph but not a blemish on our memory. time grows old teaches many lessons. time is passing what are the lessons of watergate. one of the things relate to the people involved in this conspiracy didn't

john dean's testimony didn't secure president nixon's impeachment and i remember john mitchell, he was a tough guy, he wouldn't talk. he was a tough guy. mitchell, he wouldn't give an inch. i guess he testified before the committee too, dean testified, it's similar to the way he testified before the senate watergate committee. everybody was saying, we got to have witnesses, we got to have witnesses. it turned out it was the right instinct. we had witnesses, we had to satisfy the committee. if it was up to dole, we would haven't had witnesses. but the pressure of the committee was we had to have some witnesses, so doar said we had to have some witnesses, so it was my job to prepare these witnesses and the witnesses, which i had hope would have great impact. was these statements of information, one after another, which were boring, plus the tapes. the tapes -- once you heard the tapes, then you could put the tapes together with documents and some of the testimony, that created this impetus for impeachment. >> tell us when you first heard about the tapes. >> i'll tell you when i first she

or call john dean and play the tape. this is the kind ever things i was wrestling with. and we had three articles. how do we prove each of the articles? of impeachment along with the watergate article, article 1, article 2, the abuse of agency articles. one was the break-in. number two was abuse of various agencies and three is failure to turn over documents to the committee. how do you make those presentations? and i was starting to weigh those things at the time. to me it was difficult and important to sort of how do you try a case in the senate. >> did you talk to anybody in the senate? no. no. it ended suddenly. >> did you have a sense of time table? >> yes. i was very concerned about that. that's why i didn't want to leave my office. i thought it would be fairly quick. i thought 30 to 60 days after the articles of impeachment would come down. and that's an important time to prepare a case. and we'd have to prepare the congressman because we weren't really going to be able, and even in the clinton impeachment, you have congressmen present on the floor so we have to p

not just one, not just john dean, all agreeing in one way or another this would be the topic. we didn't have exact words in these cases but -- and the members did get impatient. john's biggest challenge wr, hes told me, was the pressure to do it fast. we ended up taking, as i said, about six months. and there were a lot of people who would want it to be done much shorter than that. but john felt that it had to be done right, that it had to be a thorough look at what the record showed, that it -- and i remember our feeling strongly that whatever conclusion we came to, it was important -- important -- that it be solid enough so that it would attract bipartisan support. and even before the smoking gun tape, we did get significant bipartisan support in the committee for the cover-up article. for some of the other articles, too, although i don't remember them as well. it wasn't what happened after the smoking gun tape came out and basically all of them supported the articles. but we -- this was a -- we wanted this to be -- john wanted this to be as i recall a constitutional process

then finally, the evidence on the tape, as we listened to the tapes for the first time and heard john dean provide in the cancer on the presidency's speech that he gave to richard nixon, chapter and verses giving richard nixon every benefit of the doubt that he didn't know all the things that had happenehappened that quite clearly he did know. and telling the president, look, you've got to stop it now, you've got to quit now, it's untenable. you have to stop the cover-up, perjury has been committed, it's obstruction of justice. people will have to go to jail. you need to get beyond this. and richard nixon said, quite unequivocally, you've got to continue the cover-up. you've got to continue paying the hush money. you've got to keep the cap on it still longer. so listening to this, to me, and then to leon jaworsky, who had followed archibald cox as special prosecutor, became the most decisive part of the investigation. >> john, were you the happiest person when alexander butterfield confirmed that there was tapes? >> what alex and i have discussed over the years, one of the things that prom

but it was conversations between the president and haldeman and president and ehrlichman and john dean had a bit part in some of them. and i thought, boy, everyone keeps their voice down in the oval office. no screaming and ranting and raving. on the other hand, what's being said is pretty amazing. >> tell us about john dohr, working with him. >> he was a dreamboat. dreamboat. he was just so sort of apple pie good. and, you know, i knew that he -- he made a real effort not to socialize with any of his democratic friend in washington. he was quite a good friend with ethel kennedy. at the time, i spent time at hickory hill. and she said, that john dohr, he won't even return my telephone calls. it's really awful. one time, john took exception to the fact that i think it was i had written a memo for mr. hutchison of michigan, the ranking member, at the request of sam garrison, and i think sam asked me to deliver it to mr. hutchison and john said, i didn't know about this. so i got caught in the middle on that. and i was kind of in the middle since i was on both sides. i had a lot of differ

whole campaign against terrorism and here he is you know speaking on behalf of the emmy of howard dean john bolton who you mentioned mitt romney's foreign policy adviser i mean it's just amazing you know. there are do you do you find there are actually there are several advisers to mitt romney who want. to. advocate for this group which i think you know mitt romney was actually asked on the campaign trail in some meeting in i think in iowa or new hampshire was asked about the group and he confessed that he didn't have any idea who they were and yet michel reese john bolton two of his top advisers have both advocated for the group you mentioned. mayor of nine eleven well actually praised the attacks of nine eleven at the camp in iraq they actually they showed footage of it there's. reports that they actually they said you know wait till america sees what we have to offer we need to be organizing on the level of al qaeda even today you know the u.s. one of the. the folks at the state department who are handling the the relocation of the m e k because they're now based in iraq and were basical

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so there was john mercer langston, who was the first dean of the howard university law school and later was the first african-american elected to congress from virginia. but he was family. frederick douglas was someone -- >> not bad dinner company. >> frederick douglas was a frequent guest. susan b. anthony and o.s.b. wahl and his wife amanda wahl were not just civil rights activists, but they were really suffrage activists for the vote for women. so in 1870 this was a time when susan b. anthony was arrested for trying to vote in the congressional election. amanda wahl also was marching to the registrar of voters and demanded to be registered to vote. so susan b. anthony was there, and i think the wahls were embarrassed by one of o.s.b. wahl's sisters who was an opponent for suffrage for women, because she thought it was unfeminine. but o.s.b. wahl, amanda wahl, john mercer langston's wife, carrie wahl langston, they were suffrage activists. >> and when we see -- i importune you to read this, because when we see these dinner gatherings, and just the loomnaloo luminaries of people that w

dean mcgee, i'm from st. johns university law school. i want to go back to foreign affairs and i would like the panel to respond to what madison wrote about the power of the president in the constitution, and he wrote in no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found than in the clause which confines the pressent of war or peace to the legislateur and he goes on to say that not one man has the power to take on one war, and i was wondering if any one would agree with the constitution and further, if any members of the panel disagree with him as a matter of whether that issa i wise clause of the constitution. >> i see you were reading from madison's participation and how specific his debate which is of course, take place after the ratification of the constitution and this is something people debate about whether historians are written a very interesting essay about whether madison is consistent between when he was acting as one of the framers of philadelphia and the ratification and once he became basically one of the leaders of th

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the new dean of johns hop kins, former advisor to the late u.s.oy richard haldbrook and author of several books including "forces of fortune." why did it take so long to resolve this matter? >> both sides dug their heels in. the u.s. said it would not apologize to pakistan because it was not happy with pakistan. and pressure on the president not to apologize. and pakistanis had their own pressure to get some kind of closure for the deaths of 24 soldiers. the two sides didn't seem to be able to bridge this difference until today. >> so when the secretary of state in her statement says we are sorry for the losses suffered by the pakistani military, you view that as a formal apology. >> it is at least to the extent that that's what the pakistanis need in order to be able to tell their public that they have got something from the united states and that gives them political cover now to open the supply routes and begin cooperating with us. >> let's turn to iran for a moment. you saw that lead story in the "new york times" today. the iranians are launch

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we had john kerry and howard dean coming through. it was pretty exciting. host: the do know he would come to washington? guest: i was pretty -- did you know you would come to washington? guest: i was pretty sure. host: good morning. are you there? caller: can you hear me? thank you for taking my phone call. i am going to be brief. i have a few statements i wanted to make. but people are trying to put stuff on barack obama and romney is not even in there. the blade is on the congress and senate to straighten this stuff out. on the comment that the president made about -- nike was started by the federal government. ross perot got his start with the federal government'. america, you are not willing to get the jobs back. on the well for -- welfare joint, if you put 13% of black america on welfare, you still have 33 million people out there that are taking up welfare money. oil companies, gas will be $3 a gallon -- that has to be $96 a barrel. what are you doing? wall street, what are you doing? why are you taking social security and medicare from the american p

that back in 2004, with the democratic infighting going on, john kerry eventually becoming the nominee, maybe he's more electable than howard dean.

that back in 2004, with the democratic infighting going on, john kerry eventually becoming the nominee, maybe he's more electable than howard dean. it seemed that the overall prevailing message was anybody but bush. can that really work this time on the other foot? >> it almost worked that time. for the democrats. and, of course, it did work in 2008. one of the problems that all presidents have is, and this was really the formula for obama's problem, is that the reason a presidential candidate is elected is often very complicated and has less to do with people loving him and what he wants to do than he thinks. and this was -- this is always the case. in 2008 when obama was elected, it was anybody but bush, remember all that. that was partly true because the -- remember bush had an unpopular war. he had lost the sort of resonance with the public that he'd had right after 9/11. he seemed aloof, then he had the economic proem

we had john kerry and howard dean coming through. it was pretty exciting. host: the do know he would come to washington? guest: i was pretty -- did you know you would come to washington? guest: i was pretty sure. host: good morning. are you there? caller: can you hear me? thank you for taking my phone call. i am going to be brief. i have a few statements i wanted to make. but people are trying to put stuff on barack obama and romney is not even in there. the blade is on the congress and senate to straighten this stuff out. on the comment that the president made about -- nike was started by the federal government. ross perot got his start with the federal government. america, you are not willing to get the jobs back. on the well for -- welfare joint, if you put 13% of black america on welfare, you still have 33 million people out there that are taking up welfare money. oil companies, gas will be $3 a gallon -- that has to be $96 a barrel. what are you doing? wall street, what are you doing? why are you taking social security and medicare from the american pe

as of july 1st, the new dean of foreign policy, graduate school at johns hopkins.to see you. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. congratulations on all the new jobs and titles. >> thank you. >> let's talk about this, because this negotiation, there was a real divide in the white house, in the obama white house. hillary clinton and the state department team wanted all along to just, say you're sorry last november. okay. there was fault on both sides. it's clear that the pakistani military may have fired first, but the bottom line was, we killed 24 pakistani troops. >> that's right. >> they were demanding an apology. that was the price for keeping this border opening going for the nato troops. and for months and months, the pentagon and the white house refused to let hillary clinton po apologize. >> that's right. the assumption was if we pressured pakistan, that they would buckle. and in the end, we had overestimated our hand and underestimated their resolve. >> and they were too weak to buckle. it was a political weakness of their teams over there and of their civ

reports from john miller and anna werner as the first victim is laid to rest. what grows in a drought? food prices. dean reynolds on how much more you'll be paying. rebels claim they now control half of syria's biggest city. clarissa ward is in syria. elizabeth palmer across the border in lebanon. and nasa's mission to mars. >> this mission is the coolest thing i think we've ever done. >> pelley: bill whitaker on why it's being called "seven minutes of terror."

mama dean longtime aide to secretary of state hillary clinton was affiliated with the muslim brotherhood and part of a campaign to infiltrate the u.s. government and as soon as this happened senator john mccain father like i said of your co-author went to the senate floor and said this. recently it has been alleged that when a dean a muslim american is part of a nefarious conspiracy to harm the united states these allegations about what dean and the report from which they are drawn are nothing less than an unwarranted an unfounded attack on an honorable citizen a dedicated american and a loyal public servant. so here we have senator john mccain longtime senator from arizona who a lot of people said you know after he lost the election in two thousand and eight became sort of much more partisan became sort of a grumpy old man this is a little flash of the old john mccain that you know a lot of people knew and loved what's going to take to have more incidents like this more incidents of respected politicians on both sides of the aisle going to the senate floor and standing up for people on the opposite side no matter how unpopular it may be because it's the right thing to do. unfortunate

and vali nasr is dean of the school of advanced international studies at johns hopkins university.he served in the obama administration's state department focusing on afghanistan and pakistan. vali nasr, i'll start with you. a good and important step. what do you make of this, both the apology and the reopening of the truck routes? >> i think it's a very good and important step largely because these two countries need one another. pakistan is very fragile and unstable and the united states needs pakistan in the war on terror for finishing off the war in afghanistan and the stability of pakistan matters to us greatly. the way in which this relationship was unraveling was going to put at jeopardy america's larger interest in the region. unfortunately we had gotten ourselves into a position where this issue had become a stumbling block to moving forward. it's very good that it's remov removed. >> brown: general keane, what do you think? the stumbling block removed? why did this become such a stumbling block? >> first of all i agree. it's obviously a step in the right direction. we use

reports from john miller and anna werner as the first victim is laid to rest. what grows in a drought? food prices. dean reynolds on how much more you'll be paying. rebels claim they now control half of syria's biggest city. clarissa ward is in syria. elizabeth palmer across the border in lebanon. and nasa's mission to mars. >> this mission is the coolest thing i think we've ever done. >> pelley: bill whitaker on why it's being called "seven minutes of terror." >> pelley: good evening, no one saw the movie it out days before thecoul ng suspect james it out days before thecoul ng suspect james d been sent to correspondent john miller detail cted. reporte u.s. p might sent out.they didn't fint know the pa butf's bomb it ives inside. sources say the a pent-up holmes to of his psors. in it he ta psors. in it he ta people andd crude s. days rooday's shooting butbee procesl former profiler mary ellen says we may see more letters from mary ellen says we may see more letters from >> particularly because of differe crime that put them in that mail room and apparently the lead came indirectly from holmes himself.

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