they don't know what john dean has done. they don't know all of his criminal acts, so dean in this key meeting is negotiating for immunity for his own immunity. ,and what he says is, what we really ought to do is immunize some people let them go to the , hill and explain the story. the point is to get the story out, not to prosecute people criminally. he might have added particularly me. they don't think -- the rest of the people don't think they have done anything wrong. they dismiss him out of hand. i'm going to read the red part. i put it in context. that's why i raised the immunity concept again. that would take a lot of heat. you, the president you are , concerned there is something lurking here? now is the time to get to the facts. people have been protecting themselves, dean can't get the information. people wouldn't give it to him. there are indications you would like to get all of this information out, but it won't come out if people take the fifth before a grand jury. and then down again at the bottom, the president

did he call dean, did he talk to henry peterson? was he ever in touch with john mitchell? it's right off these sheets. we showed you the dean meeting. --was shown meeting from until 11:55. it also says this other man was all -- there the whole time. he was not. at a small meeting in advance, came back in for half an hour. you can tell on the tape. else, we areng dealing with human beings. human beings make mistakes. this secret service record is not perfect. we know that he wasn't in the meeting all the time. we start with grant -- transcription challenges. there are vast differences in audio quality. a telephone tap, it is clear as a bell. there is only one person on the other line. office, andhe oval there at the desk, it is pretty good. there are four mike's -- mi crophones. he is talking to somebody at his desk, it is pretty good. if it is at the yellow couches in front of the fireplace, not pretty good. you have trouble. every afternoon, he goes to his hideaway office in the old eob, and those are terrible. you cannot understand. you cannot hear them. the second thing

the second surprising revelation, john dean, the chief desk officer of the cover-up, then switched sides and became the lead government witness. john was sentenced for one to four years in prison for his leadership role in the cover-up. as it turns out, he never spent a night in jail. the jury and may be the american public was led to believe he was being punished, but in reality, he was not. it was kind of a set up. third, what i have uncovered and what i believe is what really drove nixon from office were secret allegations the prosecutors made about nixon's personal involvement in watergate. they happen to be erroneous, but they were made in secret, so we did not know and we could not them. the reason they were made in secret was because they had no witness who could testify to the allegations. they could say a phone call occurred. there was a meeting, but they had nobody to go on the stand and say, did nixon say? they did it in secret, so we did not know. beginning in week two, we did an introduction to the three most important time periods, where what you saw on tv differed from wha

john dean. gentleman, good evening. so good to see all of you. president has been all over the place when it comes to mueller testifying. is he worried his claim of can exoneration is going to go up in flames? >> i think he knows his claim of exoneration is going to go up in flames if mueller or when mueller testifies. that's exactly what's going to happen. this effort to put out a boguses story and spin this is only going to last so long when mueller gets out there and i think his testimony is going to be i think very powerful. >> you know most the strategy of whether and when to testify before congress. do you think it's possible the attorney general stops mueller from testifying? >> as long as mueller is an employee of the department of justice like he is now, he could have some say in that. but from all reports, at least the last reports is that mueller is on his way out and no employee, then he certainly has no influence of power over him then. he might try persuade him to not testify. mueller but given the fact he's been trashed by the pres

john dean had 17 people. when that came out, it turned out another thing that was happening was the white house was asking to see irs returns on particular individuals. it turned out they were being requested by the council's office. it turned out that the individual in the council's office that wanted to see this -- these tax returns your tax , returns, trump's tax returns was clark mollenhoff. there was a story about it. it was three years later. the president of the des moines register said that is strange. he did some checking he found out which returns were requested. he found out they were returns by people clark did not like. he had written articles about them. or the des moines washington bureau was writing articles about. you have these great heroes of investigative reporting, when he was in power, immediate abuse. they fired him for it. they donate -- they did not make a big public thing about it. i uncovered this because the guy wrote a book about being the head of the des moines register. he had t

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john dean got out off dodge. he knew something was wrong. he told the president there was a cancer on the presidency and got out. i was fired in the saturday night massacre. i know what has happened. here the president, despite all the talk e didn't fire anybody. and mueller did can complete his work. >> you think basically mueller will get up there in front of congress and just say basically what is in his letters and what was in the report and not really saying -- because this is what i'll ask you. they're going to ask specifically if he wawant president of the united states, would he have been charged? >> i think he's going to say the report speaks for itself but we'll see. >> what do you think, jane? >> i think thats that's possible as well. he's a by-the-book guy. but i think he wants to explain his position which is not what the president or attorney general is telling the world in his report and since most people won't read his report, his testimony could be important in informing people what he did say. all he has to do is go by the

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i don't do cover-ups. >> let's bring in john dean and max boot.s the author of "the corrosion of conservatism: why i left the right." gentlemen, good evening. you heard the president. i know you heard this back in november of 1973. >> in all of my years of public life i have never obstructed justice. and i think, too, that i can say that in my years of public life that i welcome this kind of examination because people have got to know whether or not their president is a crook. well, i'm not a crook. >> what we saw today was that -- why are you laughing, max? i was going to go to john, but why are you laughing? >> well, i mean, it's such an iconic moment. >> all right. so john, listen, let me ask you, then, because you heard that back, as i said, in november of 1973. >> yes. >> what did you think of that, was that an i'm not a crook moment or tbd? >> it was for me, don. i tweeted it within about 40 or 50 minutes after it. i saw a clip of it again and i said that's kind of a nixonian moment but it's not a nixonian style because nixon would never do

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john dean, a pleasure to have you back. listening to mr.the things, what was your biggest takeaway? >> well, my first reaction is he was taking it directly to the president. secondly he was taking it right to the attorney general and telling them that they were spinning it and they did not have it right. so i think that -- he clarified that this morning. and i think the white house reaction is an effort to spin their spin and it's not going to work. >> to underscore, bring up the president, did mueller, as we saw on twitter from republican congressman justin amash, put the ball straight out in congress's court to impeach? >> i think he did very much. and i was -- nadler's comments were very, very guarded. the house clearly is not ready to go into impeachment. i can understand why. they certainly feel that what happened during the republican era when they impeached bill clinton and then lost in the senate, he was found not guilty. it hurt the house badly. they don't want to go there again. and i think that speaker pelosi is proceeding very c

and we frankly had our doubts about john dean.e i was here with you, don, john dean was also a guest, and it was the revelation of the tapes and all of a sudden, the tapes started to change public opinion. but i'll tell you what changed it. and i can tell you, because i was there. up until october 20th, 1973, there was no serious talk about impeachment, but the saturday night massacre, i was fired, along with my bosses. that's what changed public opinion. that's what it's all about. if the trump white house continues to maintain public opinion on their side, no matter how they do it, there's going to be no threat to the president. >> i'm just wondering how much, because the only republican, as you know, the justin amash, who is talking about the president's impeachment, you talk about the tide turning during the nixon hearings. do you anticipate more people doing what justin amash was doing? or not in this environment? >> i was waiting to see after he came forward if anyone would follow him. after all, if you're a -- a conservativ

by the testimony of john dean.ng system. the people who were involved in the dirty tricks campaigns. and many who voted for nixon, because nixon won in 1972 in a landslide, began to wonder, perhaps this is not the right man for the job. >> if i question is, nixon didn't have a cable news service and conservative media, basically being his trumpet, right? pushing his narrative out. does that make a difference? >> what richard nixon faced was three major networks and the beginning of pbs, which were putting out very simple coverage of the hearings. the hearings were not mediated. there were no curators there was no filter. you got to listen to people testify. and these committee meetings were bipartisan. even though howard baker hoped the president would survive, howard baker was not afraid -- he was the minority leader in the senate, he was not afraid of asking the tough questions. that's what we're missing today. we're also missing a buy partisan culture of investigation. >> john, you've been sitting here patiently

that in a letter dated march 27th, john dean and susan crabtree are back with us. so john, we heard from nance making that very serious allegation that she believes that the attorney lied to congress based on what you just heard. he obviously has a different take on this. what is your take here? who is right here? is it the speaker or is boar tech tick -- technically correct because he said he spoke to mueller directly and not members of his team and he is saying that is what i'm referring to. >> it is interesting, erica, that he was aware of this issue before he testified yesterday before the senate. that when the letter came out showing him at odds with his earlier testimony, he was careful yesterday to pars that and try to give further explanation of his position vis-a-vis what was said in the letter versus his testimony. and it is not entirely clear. i think at this moment he's obviously not being candid, he wasn't being open with the congress. he's now in a situation where he's doing very fine line parsing of what was said, how it was said, what he meant. this

joining me now is legendary water gate reporter, john bernstein and john dean. of all, your reaction to this reporting. how big of a deal is this? >> i think it's a pretty big deal. it certainly shows a riff between the abdomen not their staff, and it shows that mr. barr is going to have some serious questions to have to answer that he may not have anticipated when he appeared before the senate judiciary committee tomorrow and possibly the house judiciary committee on thursday. >> carl, a, what do you make of this? and the timing of it coming on that testimony. >> the timing is extraordinary as is the substance of the letter. the letter could not be more definitive in saying that mr. barr misrepresented not just the letter of what is -- of the mueller investigation was but the context, the nature and the conclusions is the language that mueller uses in his letter to mr. bar. there clearly is an attempt by the prosecutor, and this action by the attorney general has undermined public confidence in the special prosecutor's investigation and in fact notes that muelle

when john dean testified, millions of americans understood what the issue was. the president, he claimed, was covering up the watergate burglary, and the president said no. simple issue. was the president telling the truth or dean telling the truth. here there are so many facts involved, the russian investigation, what is that about. you have pardons, what's that about, a bunch of different witnesses. no one has heard from them or seen them. mcgahn won't testify. the president stopped him from testifying. dean testified. he was white house counsel. so we haven't heard from key witnesses. that's what congress has to do. get those witnesses, get the story before the american people so they can understand what say. why were the president's actions >>> the president claiming -- stephen calk was a former member of the 2016 economic advisory committee, accused of taking high risk loans to paul manafort for a top role in the administration. he allegedly approved three separate loans in the campaign to paul manafort who was facing foreclosure. joining me with more detai

john dean. john, welcome to the program. good evening. mueller could have reached a decision, but mueller says justice department rules meant he couldn't. so help me understand this. why couldn't mueller have said, you know, it is my view the president committed obstruction, but we can't indict him. >> he theoretically could have said that, but if you read the opinion closely, which i just did, when not distracted by the warriors in toronto, it's very clear that that opinion says you can't burden the president, and to indict is a burden. to have a sealed indictment is a burden. and the other thing it says is you can't tarnish the president. so it's a very broad opinion as to whether a prosecutor can do and you can investigate and put the evidence away. you just can't burden or tarnish the presidency. >> so i was watching yesterday and i actually emailed some of my colleagues when i said, you know, did he just essentially say i think the president obstructed justice, but i can't charge him. now, the other part was, now over for impeachment

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. >>> now john dean, counsel during watergate. he was careful to say dire, dire moment but not constitutional crisis. chairman nadler is there. he says this is a constitutional crisis, it's clear. not allowing oversight and blocking testimony and not providing the under lying information, it's all of those things. you, though, don't think we're quite there yet. so what gets us to a constitutional crisis. >> to me, obviously different people had different definitions of those words. >> right. >> for me, it's always been when the constitutional process itself can't resolve a problem. for example, if the congress refuses to fund the government, you got a constitutional crisis. if a branch of government refuses to honor say the court order of one to the legislative or executive branch and they refuse to compile, that's a constitutional crisis. what -- >> so in other words, defying a subpoena is bad but not a crisis until a court says you must do it and they still defy it and we're not there yet? >> exactly. that the why the congressma

remember john dean? he's still around. he will tell you what happened. he was fired by mix on and he broke up with his compelling testimony in 1973. mcgahn issued a letter through his lawyers last night saying he finds himself facing contradictory stricts from two coequal branches of government and must decline to appear in the hearing. if john dean got a letter from nixon that said don't testify because you are my former counsel at the white house and you are endangering privileged information, he would show up anyway. >> that's probably right. >> what would nixon have been able to do? >> it's not clear he would have been able to do anything. there is a difference. began got that memo. he literally got the memo. he is torn. >> from the office of legal counsel. under the control of william barr. doesn't that tell you something? >> hold on. there is an important point here. i don't want to be an a poll gist. in the 15-page letter, t partie many administrations serving a similar type of immunity to preclude congress from talking to senior officials in the

john dean. and carrie cordero.omeone that was white house counsel and cooperated in a congressional investigation. do you agree trump is acting like a tyrant? like a king? >> he absolutely is, i agree with the chairman. we returned to the imperial presidency. i must say that it started with nixon. we had it with bush and cheney, and we're back there again. these people feel that the law doesn't really apply to them, so they march to their own drummer. i hope nadler doesn't let up because there's no reason. he has the full power and authority of the constitution and many supreme court rulings to back him up. >> a lot of people have been dancing around whether this is a constitutional crisis, a number of democrats claim it is, the white house stonewalling, judiciary chairman saying the president wanting to be king. when does it reach that threshold for you, when court rulings are ignored? >> yeah, i think if they were to exhaust their opportunities in court, i think here's what i think the problem is that's going on.

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. >>> joining us now is nixon's former white house counsel john dean. impeachment to be effective, both parties will have to have the will, the proverbable dam broke on nixon. are you seeing any parallels right now? >> there is a direct parallel with justin amash's move. larry hogan, a congressman from maryland was the first to break rank in the republicans against nixon. it was early. he was lonely. he was attacked. but it did start the process. so there is a direct parallel, yes. >> cnn asked senator mitt romney, another trump critic, about congressman amash and his call for impeachment. and romney wasn't ready to go as far. let's listen. >> i respect him. i think it's a courageous statement. but i believe to make a case for obstruction of justice, you just don't have the elements that are evidenced to this document. and i also believe that an impeachment call is not only something that relates to the law, but also considers practicality and politics. and the american people just aren't there. and i think those that are considering impeachment have to

remember, john dean in watergate was out to save the country. i think don mcgahn is going to be a truthful but reluctant witness in front of the house eventually. >> final question, jack. somewhat contradictory point being made by bill barr and others that the special counsel did not find enough evidence of obstruction of justice, but also the special counsel should have made a decision to indict or not. it seems to raise a question about the point you made that is the guidance really that clear here? i mean, bill barr, the sitting attorney general, seems to say, well, the special counsel should have made a judgment, even as he says i looked at the evidence and there's no indictable crime. it's confusing. >> i agree with the premise of your question. it's difficult for me to monday morning quarter back this because the people on mueller's team are really some of the most esteemed people in my profession. if i were to do it over again, i wish they would have at least kicked it olc, kicked it upstairs in the justice department and said, we have an

i want to discuss that now with jennifer rogers, patrick healey and john dean.evening to all of you. jennifer, donald trump, jr. going to testify is going to have to answer questions of discrepancy in his testimony of what other witnesses have testified to. so what will they get to the bottom of, how will they get to the bottom of anything there? >> well, they obviously point out what he said before. they raise what the other witnesses have said and they ask him about it. is there anything you want to tell us, is there anything you want to clarify when such and such, michael cohen said this? and then they ask him to clarify it. and as much as they want to keep that prior confrontation under wraps, they're going to be pushing him hard on this. >> so that would be perceived as a follow-up to say what do you want to -- is there anything you want to clarify. >> mr. trump, let me follow up on your prior testimony. >> so it's that easy. so we're talking semantics here. two to four hours, is that enough? >> i think so. if they stretch it to the four and they're good wi

they were able to judge the credibility of john dean and other key witnesses. they learned along with us in the prosecution office about the existence of tapes that would corroborate ultimately what john dean said, and i think that like in the manafort trial where one juror who was a loyal trump supporter, paula duncan said i'm a loyal supporter and i think this investigation is a hoax and witch hunt, but the evidence against manafort was convincing and i voted to convict him on all 18 counts. and that's why we need these public hearings. we need people to be informed. and we're in a slippery slope between balancing off article i which is the powers of the congress, and article 2, which is the power of the president. and we cannot let that happen. we can't let him take over, so we have to take some action so that people will see the truth. >> yeah. and let me come to you on that very important point jill wine-banks made. you were a criminal defense attorney. you know the idea is you have to win over the jurors where and they have to put aside whatever their pre

let me start with you, john dean. is it mueller's call to decide whether or not he testifies?won't do it, not going to do it, guys. >> it is not his choice. it's congress's choice. if he is asked he will probably do it voluntarily. but if he don't want to do it voluntarily. they can subpoena him and force the issues. subpoena it is an awkward way to do it. but his testimony is also hearsay. you could also get a lot of what he could say from other witnesses where he could shine a bigger light in sort of an overview. >> i mean, david, here is the question. you heard congressman connolly, right he said he is coming i don't care whether he wants to be here or not he is coming. nancy pelosi said she wants him to come. however gerry nadler had originally threatened to subpoena backed away. here is pelosi and nadler. >> yes, i think it would be useful for him to testify before congress. >> are you going to subpoena mueller to testify then? >> mr. mueller told us a lot of what we need to hear today. >> hmm. >> well, the emphasises seep changing. they are going to call him become but i

john dean isn't around for us. we don't have those things. things, though. >> you are seeing a very distinct clear difference between the democrat party and the republican party in the sense if we flip tables here the proceedings would have started already just as we saw a supreme court justice blocked in the final year of a presidential election. the republicans have a story of plowing into these things. democrats are much more cautious. that's not a criticism. that's an observation. in the context of speaker pelosi, she lived through this last time. and she saw the unexpected, the unpredictability of it. so her word is caution. slow down. think about everything. in her case, think particularly about the 20 or so most vulnerable members of her conference who have to go home to districts the president carried or districts hillary clinton just barely carried. she has a complicated argument to make. she has been successful with holding out. how long can she hold that? >> the white house statement frau from sarah sanders concluded by saying the

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we had the testimony of john dean, corroborated, of course, by the tapes.d the testimony of jeb mcgruder, corroborated by the tapes. we had a lot of other witnesses. but there was no physical evidence of obstruction. that op-ed is just missing the mark completely. it focuses on the underlying crime, which is not an issue because you don't need an underlying crime to have an obstruction of justice. and there is a motive for obstruction in both cases, and that's all it takes is to have a motive and to take acts in furtherance of that to obstruct and impede and donald trump has admitted on nbc to lester holt and in the oval office to the russians that he did the firing of comey to stop the investigation. he took a lot of other steps. he dangled pardons. these are similar things to what richard nixon did and for which he was named unindicted co-conspirator in lieu of being indicted because we felt that impeachment was the way to go and that is indeed what happened. there were three articles of impeachment and one covered the obstruction of justice. one covered

the president was around during watergate, and one thinks of john dean. i remember when michael cohen was about to left people saying this is going to be the john dean moment. michael cohen was no john dean, but my conjures of one of the things he did by testifying. kind of elevated the issue of obstruction beyond the underlying offense. in nixon's case, that was the burglary. in trump's case, it was the russia interference. and we see mcghan unwillingly i guess at this point reminding everyone that obstruction is really important. of course, the difference here is mcghan is declining to testify. and if he's subpoenaed, he is subpoenaed, but if he declines on may 21st, it's going to take a while for the courts to sort it out. i don't think we should be setting our dvrs if people still set dvrs to see mcghan testify. >> let me draw from your experience on the hill. you look at the investigations being stymied. if i'm the chairman of the committee and read it in the newspaper, i'm aware things have not been working for some time. is the result to be defeati

john dean was running the cover-up. it did much worse. >> watch the entire class this sunday at 8 p.m. and midnight eastern on the presidency. you are watching american history tv only on c-span3. 2017, the library of congress acquired a one-of-a-kind manuscript. a diary of a slave written in arabic. up next, a collection of documents bearing the name of omar ibn said. deeb, here at the library of congress. i'm here to tell you about this fantastic acquisition the library has made in 2017. it is only now available to the public digitally on our website. we would like to show you the items themselves and talk about them. the core of this collection is the omar ibn said biography. fact.ography, in it is written in arabic. it was a biography written in a31 by a man who was enslaved couple of decades earlier. he was asked to write his autobiography, which he did. >> you asked me to write my life. i'm not able to do this because i have much forgotten my own, as well as the arab language. neither can i white very grammaticall

lawyers were the ones asking the questions of the attorney general, of the white house counsel, john dean, john mitchell. they were all questioned. butterfield answered the question about the tapes with the minority counsel to the committee. there is precedent for this and we need to get it going and see these witnesses. >> one suspects they don't want the witnesses to appear either. that's why we are in the standoff we are. we will see how it gets resolved. thank you both. >> thanks. >> joining me now, one of the members of the house judiciary committee who got stood up today. a democrat from georgia, first term. congresswoman, your reaction to barr blowing off your committee today. >> well, first, chris, i have to say that compliance with congress is just not optional. it is not optional. the american people deserve answers. my constituents deserve answers and the judiciary committee deserves answers. the fact that we have barr deciding he is not going to show is a great disservice to the american people. where is the transparency and the truth? we are tasked with congress to be fact fi

now, ourph biographer featured n the book, john dean, yes, of watergate fame who knows a thing or two about presidential scandals. he argues, because he got access to more of harding's papers, that he deserves a second look. the historians in the survey gave him only 360 points altogether out of 1,000. his highest, 33, was in equal justice for all. a category keeps coming back. and i was talking with jack faro before about how we look at presidents through our own eyes, and we're having an important conversation in this country about demographics and racial relations. so it certainly appears in these presidential ratings. all right, next up, one of our featured presidents today, andrew johnson. oh, i skipped pearce. sorry, new hampshire. 41., franklin pearce. peter wallner, he got 315 points, and a terrific story in there about the difficulty of him coming to washington. iffi you've never heard it, they had lost two of their three sons already at a very young age. their third son was on the train with them as they were making ttheir way after winning the election. the train actually h

. >> john dean, thank you very much. >>> joining me is democratic congresswoman sheila jackson lee. she sefshs serves on the house judiciary committee. so good to have you on. i know you have a busy day tomorrow. the attorney general is going to skip the hearing tomorrow. he's also refusing a subpoena for the unredacted report. what are you going to do next? >> well, don, we're certainly not going to eliminate or disengage from continuing to negotiate with the attorney general because we believe that we have both the power and the authority to demand the unredacted mueller report and all the evidence. because we know huh to behave, we're going to continue to negotiate with the attorney general. however, if one does not appear but does not provide the unredacted material that was due today, then i'm going to abdicate for him toby held in contempt. interaction with the congress is constitutional. protected under the article one powers. and frankly the way this house has disregarded the norminal engagement with the united states congress has not been seen in the the history of the unit

the specter of john dean looms laerj over all of this.he idea of the president's own lawyer testify against him in some way shape or foerm in a public televised way is bad. they had the spectacle of the former personal attorney testify publicly on cap 28 rr hill. that was very damaging to president trump but this would be even worse because it gets to the heart of his conduct while in office. it's clear the whole section around obstruction is essentially a road map to congress when it comes to obstruction and laying out the different kinds of evidence. instead we're being tides down in a series of process and legal fights over access, not ownnly the unredacted report but the underlying evidence if congress is going to investigate the allegations. and congress is the only vehicle that can impose accountability for allegations like this. >> they've got to have the information. they can't see it, susan. >> almost an absurd, illogical thing. it's not surprising this is happening. >> i think this is import ntd. the chairman of the houses ways

then there was the john dean cancer on the presidency thing.ses that came up that summer that obviously those hearings went longer, they got far more widespread, in the fall of '73 we have, of course, the saturday night massacre and all things escalated beyond what anybody thought they would be. do you see, i know it's tough to call these things, anything like that that could happen here? >> i think the situation is very different. it's interesting to compare them, though. the very first special prosecutor we ever had under president grant was fired by grant and then you had archibald cox who was fired by nixon in effect. and he fired his attorney general, elliott richardson, for not firing cox. all of that was completely legal. president trump could have fired mueller, that would have been not politically wise, but he had the power to do so. he never did it because trump said i'm not guilty of obstruction of justice, so i have no reason to fear an investigation. president nixon, on the other hand, had every reason to fear an investigation beca

>> well, i think the crucial question is the democrats are looking for a john dean moment.go back to watergate when john dean, who was nixon's lawyer, turned against the president and testified and said there was a cancer upon the presidency, that really was a turning point in watergate. the democrats are going to look for that with mcgahn as well. >> based on your reporting, what would you want to ask him? >> i think we even know the answers. it's in the mueller report and the key question is did the president try to obstruct justice by getting him to fire mueller? and that is in the mueller report. but it's very, very different to have him testify to that on national tv, and that could be a very explosive moment if he does honor the subpoena. >> yeah. danny, in the meantime, the house committee chair adam schiff is floating an extreme method to force the white house to comply with congressional subpoenas. what do you have to say? >> it's far more practical to consider levying individual fines on the person, not on the office, until they comply. you could fine someone $25,

but john dean was running the cover. it just made it much, much worse. announcer: watch the entire class with jeff shepard this sunday at 8:00 p.m. and midnight eastern on the presidency. you are watching american history tv, only on c-span3. announcer: next on "lectures in history," when mexico gained its independence from spain in 1821, the new country's northernmost holding was the sparsely populated territory of california. rick kennedy of point loma nazarene university talks about mexico's governance and plans for california in the decades leading up to the 1848 mexican-american war in which mexico lost california to the united states. rick: ok, scholars. [laughter] rick: this is what we are going to do today. a class called high hopes of mexican california. and this is an important thing. that is personal. for those of us who live in california, especially coastal california, this is our heritage. this is who we are is in part mexican. a lot of our class it is the blending that goes on that create us and stuff like that. as a mexican period in cali

let's bring in john dean, cara masters, max boot. his book is "the road not taken."ax, the picture of the findings didn't capture, quote, the context, nature and substance of the investigation. that is according to the "washington post." i'm going to say that again. the context, nature and substance. what else is there? >> well, it's shocking to hear from robert mueller, because if mueller is anything, he is a chain of command guy. he has been that way ever since he was a marine officer in vietnam. he is not a grandstander, he does not act in the way that comey did, for example, taking it upon himself to hold a press conference and upstage the attorney general. mueller believes in doing what his superiors say. so when he is challenging his superiors in this fashion, that is an indication that bill barr has done something seriously wrong. i mean, we are talking here -- i think this is adding to concerns that what bill barr has done is grounds for impeaching him, it's grounds for his resignation. i think he has lost the confidence of a substantial portion of the nation

fascinating to see and i think there is a parallel with the way this testimony will be watched with john deanh was, i remember vividly. i was in high school. it was riveting. thank you so much. coming up, the list is ballooning. over 700 former federal prosecutors now say trump committed crimes based off the mueller report. and senator warren's call to impeach is causing a big wave inside the democratic party. that when we're back in 30 seconds. 30 seconds. my doctors again ordered me to take aspirin, and i do. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. listen to the doctor. take it seriously. every curve, every innovation, every feeling. a product of mastery. lease the 2019 es 350 for $379 a month for 36 months. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. >>> today elizabeth warren delivering a blistering speech. for the first time on the senate floor, she went there on impeachment. >> if any other human being in the country had done what's documented in the mueller report, they would be arrested and put in jail. this is not about politics. this is about the constitutio