we also were able to get to john dean's lawyers and so we do that dean was going to implicate the president before it happened so that knowledge again, what was being developed by the committee was almost as if there was a source out in the open enabled us to perhaps go to the next step. >> also i think it got harder not because of what we had to do but i think a little bit we were exhausted. we were going to write a book aboutthis . it wasn't clear and so we knocked on fewer doors than we used to and i think the lesson always is never stop knocking on doors. >> you mentioned deed. we have a clip of his testimony i want to show and then talk about his role in all of this. let's watch that and then i'll turn toyou bob . >> i began by telling the president there was a cancer growing on the presidency and if the cancer was not removed the president himself would be killed by. i also told him it was important that this cancer be removed immediately because it was growing more deadly every day . >> how should we think about john dean in history. the role he played, the pros and cons of what he d

and john dean, of course, is correct. it is quite clear in the courts that it is very difficult for a former president to invoke executive privilege. it's not quite impossible, but it is an uphill climb legally. >> john, how does the latest reporting align with the former president's overall legal strategy? because whether it's 2020 election case, the mar-a-lago documents, the tactics seem to be preventing investigators from getting information instead of actually defending himself on the merits of the case. and when being asked to actually provide evidence on the merits of the case or on claims like, oh, they were planting documents, there's crickets. >> i think we're seeing the standard trump playbook, which is stall, delay, stall, delay, deflect. and that has been his playbook for decades now. and he's very good at it. his lawyers burn out and he gets a new crew and they do the same thing over again. i think this is a repeat performance. >> elie, these privilege claims are at play in several different investigations in

. >> john dean, mark meadows, how do you see that playing out? do you think that's what will happen? >> well, he did claim executive privilege in the material he turned over to the january 6th committee so that's already out there. he also didn't fully comply with the january 6th committee and they referred a contempt citation on him. the justice department did not do anything with that and that was the first signal to me, look to see who is his lawyer. he's got one of the best lawyers in washington. he's got a guy who spent 15 years in the top ranks of the department of justice becoming deputy attorney general and acting attorney general, somebody who really knows how the game is played. so i think meadows is being guided very carefully. what he's done at this point is he's given them everything he has. your question on executive privilege, in this context where the grand jury is probably responsible for the subpoena, there is going to be no executive privilege. this is u.s. versus nixon where his tapes get produced and he loses his right to inv

as john dean just stated, that's where it hits the fan. because there is nobody closer to the president that his chief of staff, particular this key moment in history. meadows would have firsthand knowledge from the president of his statements of his actions and his closest -- state of mind. i think what john dean just laid out is fascinating, given that he's been represented by quite a serious lawyer that they did not charge him with contempt. does that indicate a degree of cooperation? we may not be seeing? we do not know at this stage, i want to be clear about that. but if mark meadows were to flip, that would open up whole new insight into donald trump at that moment in our history. >> the doj issued over 30 subpoenas in the last week or so, do you expect to see a bunch of new reporting about people close to trump who are now complying? >> yes. and that doesn't necessarily mean leaks, it means this investigation is going in a full court press mode, as we head into the midterms, i don't expect we'll be seeing indictments yes necessarily

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i'm not an attorney, but just -- john dean, you are. does any of this make sense to you legally?know, i tried to get as much information from the court proceedings today as possible. the tripletanscript isn't out. "the new york times" did a story on it. it's hard to tell what happened in that courtroom today, and what i sense and from what i have gathered, this judge isn't very well versed in executive privilege, and she doesn't really -- and that's not surprising. her court is likely never to deal with that again, and it's unique that it's even in her court. in fact, the presidential records are always sent to the d.c. courts, and that's where that litigation all occurs. so, but anyway, in listening to what her questions and her pressing the department of justice on whether or not a special master would confuse things or delay things, she had no real clear conception of what executive privilege is, and it doesn't apply here. you can't have one part of the government saying the other part of the government can't have access to the documents. so it's just silly what trump is throw

cnn contributor and former nixon counsel john dean is. here national security analyst julia k, and peter strike, the former fbi chief of the counter section. he's also the author of compromise counterintelligence and the threat of donald j trump. julia, i want to ask about. this this is big disturbing stuff, right? don't overplay, it don't want to underplay, but it is explosive reporting from the washington post, these documents about nuclear secrets. and i quote here, some of the seized documents detail top secret u.s. operation so closely guarded that many senior u.s. officials are kept in the dark about them. we are talking about documents only the president and a handful of officials would be able to see. what goes through your mind when you hear that? >> basically that sources and methods were likely compromise. not classification we get to the how was this done, how did we acquire this information, rather than sort of what does it say? we have an asset, another country is telling us acts, why, or z. this is consistent with what we c

law enforcement analyst andrew mccabe, and cnn contributor and former nixon white house counsel john deanth of you gentlemen. andrew, i'm gonna start with you. we've known how highly classified these documents are. what new information have we learned from the details from this affidavit? >> well, don, i think what we learned with what has now been unsealed from the same affidavit is really more of the same. there is a consistent through line here in terms of the documents that the president had at mar-a-lago. and those are not just classified documents, not just classified at the highest level, but also documents that contained hcs, which is human source information, as i, which is signals intelligence, that's communications that we intercept from our foreign adversaries. and, you know, this is some of, as i said, not just top secret but some of the most sensitive fragile information we have the top secret level. and information that could really put people in danger if it falls into the wrong hands. >> well, john, this investigation has been put on a bit of a hold since the search for a

but as john dean just said. we are glad to start with a three judge panel. but whoever loses that can then ask the entire circuit to rule. and whether they do that or not, whoever those risk and then the asked the u.s. supreme court to intervene. so, i presume this appeal i understand the doj really did not like the ruling on the special master. especially on classified documents. i'm stuck doj felt like they had protect in institutional interest and fight this. but they are contributing to the delay by pursuing this appeal. it is a given take. it is strategic decision that gop made. >> only get you checked on, elliott i should say on the assistance of president trump, advisers should say. so, this judges overseeing the foreign lobbying trial of the adviser, tom barrack. tell a potential jurors that trump could be called as a witness -- do you think the former president will be called to the stand? >> i think it is very unlikely. >> you will see in a criminal trial, where one party or the other will be the old face name. such as donald trump. it is very rare

. >> let's bring in john dean.e know that the committee has seen part of the documentary this comes from, because they requested to have it. so the members have seen it, if not the whole thing. and this committee, the january 6th committee that has the next hearing tomorrow has used clips of video, clips of audio throughout each of its hearings. i wonder what impact, if any, you'll see what impact from roger stone might have? >> they've used those clips effectively. i think that roger stone at some point may have forgotten that he was being recorded. there's some other clips that they have where he's very confessional, very blunt about what he has to say. so, yes, those are not manipulated recordings contrary to his accusation. those are roger. and that's certainly his mentality. >> you, of course, were a star witness in the watergate investigation. and at last throughline from watergate to events of today, not the least of which the richard nixon tattoo on roger stone's back. but what you have now -- and i've hear

joining us now cnn contributor john dean, white house counsel during the nixon administration and star, both pat cipollone and pat philbin testified to the january 6th select committee and the hearing shows they pushed back on the efforts to overturn the 2020 election and opposed the proposal to replace the attorney general with someone willing to look into false claims of election fraud. so how damning who you think their grand jury testimony potentially could be for the former president? >> well, i think they have a lot of knowledge. they certainly have knowledge of the scheme to replace the attorney general with a pliant lower level department of justice assistant attorney general. they have knowledge of the fake elector scheme. they have knowledge, i think, of the eastman memo that was used with pence. they have knowledge of the insurrection and what the president was doing that day. so they're knowledgeable. the question is they withheld their statements or conversations with trump before the january 6th committee. that may or may not be something they had to testify to in front o

perspective now from elie honing and john dean who famously serve as white house counsel to presidentect the substance to be? >> one, they could appeal everything, the entire appointment of the special master, the entire process. two, there could be a middle ground where they only appeal the part of the ruling that relates to the classified documents. as jessica pointed out those are the most sensitive documents and doj may say let us have those, take those out of the purview of the special master. or, three, it's possible -- not likely but possible doj decides not to appeal at all. the strategic considerations here on the one hand doj hates this ruling. they lost this ruling. they think the judge is wrong. on the other hand, an appeal takes time, takes months. and if they do appeal they might lose. if you lose on the circuit level it is much worse in terms of precedent than losing on the trial court level. >> john, what would the department of justice be looking for in the appeal of judge canon's decision? >> well, i think one of the things they'll certainly look at will be the -- wh

let's bring in elliott williams and john dean, the former nixon white house counsel. elliott, first to you. how do you think this judge will weigh these arguments for or against a special master that sara laid out, and when could we see her ruling? >> this is what happens. it's almost the problem with federal judges. you just don't know. she could, frankly, have issued a ruling from the bench today. i've seen judges do that where they already had it written and just start reading when the lawyers stop talking. it could be days or weeks. it's what the judge decides. what she could do is grant one. she suggested she was inclined to do so, but also limit what that special master could look at, only looking at, say, attorney/client privilege documents, only having the special master only oversee things that were seized from the office as opposed to other places. but it's just hard to tell right now. she has very broad latitude in what she does. >> john dean, what goes through your mind hearing a trump lawyer comparing these classified documents to an overdue library book?

but i think here the real question is, is mark meadows trying to be john dean or haldman.r haldman went to prison on three felony charges for a long period of time. john dean on the other hand cooperated at an early stage and got a much better deal, spent about four months in a hotel room cooperating with prosecutors. so i think when i'm looking at the situation with mark meadows now, that's the big question. will he cooperate? he was the intermediary for trump with the outside world in a lot of respects. so obviously he's valuable to prosecutors if they're really looking at trump. >> i think there is a possibility that it could be none of the above. >> option c. >> mark meadows here has turned over to the doj what he gave to the january 6th committee, which is some text messages, some other documents but withholding others based on his determination that they are privileged. so he didn't go above and beyond in responding to the subpoena. he's not volunteering anything more than he's given and his cooperation with the january 6th committee stopped distinctly at a particula

. >>> so john dean with me now, and stephanie grisham is back, former trump white house press secretarylad to have both of you with me on this. john, let me start with you because you're with me. unclear what that statement is roger stone put out. >> he is often unclear. >> he did say f the voting, let's get right to the violence. whatever else he may not have said around it, he said those things. >> yes. >> what's your reaction to this? >> well, his response is terribly weak. it's somebody manipulated the video and the sound. he has clearly been caught in some context. we don't have the full story. we may never get the full story from roger. >> fair. and that's probably true. stephanie, i want to play another clip from the week after january 6th. this is where stone criticizes the white house counsel's office. he says the white house counsel told trump that trump could not preemptively pardon stone for his role in any efforts to overturn the election. let me play that part. >> has it been pitched to the president? >> yes, it has. i believe the president's for it. the obstacles are thes

i want to bring in now cnn's evan perez, also former nixon white house counsel john dean, and formerpy to have you along to go along with this new reporting. evan, this is your reporting. you're part of the team behind this group exclusive reporting. what are you learning? >> well, don, we know that the justice department served a subpoena on mark meadows. he is the former chief of staff of the former president. and what they've gotten is thousands of texts and emails, these are ones that he already provided to the house committee that's investigating january 6th. and as you pointed out, this makes him the highest ranking official, trump official, known to have been served a subpoena as part of this criminal investigation. mark meadows, of course, had a front seat to all of the efforts by the former president to overturn the election. he was in touch with state officials, he was trying to push prosecutors at the justice department to say that there was evidence of fraud. when we have course know that there was no evidence of fraud. to certainly the level -- to make a difference in th

. >> stephen: and everybody was great in that, but you were so great as modean, john dean's girlfriendmething important, like, 10 years ago, i've played that for a long time. that's how i pay my bills is playing wife of man doing something important. and 10 years ago, my lines as that wife were always something like, "how was work? sounds confusing." and now my lines are, "how was work? sounds stupid. of i get to be smart now. >> stephen: you're now doing a show that you're currently shooting. you probably can't tell me anything about it, other than the fact they already know that you're playing a nun it. >> yes. >> stephen: who is fighting an all-powerful artificial intelligence. is that true? >> am i... i don't-- yeah, i think all i can say is i'm a nun who runs and cries and falls and laughs and smiles. you know, a nun. yeah. in a wool habit, and we're filming in the desert, and it's, like, 112 degrees right now. >> stephen: the full wimple. >> full wimple. and i live in new york and had my costume fitting in the spring. and i said, wool sounds like a great idea. and in the desert,

i want to first bring in, though, nixon white house counsel john dean, robert lipp, former general council for national intelligence. gentlemen, good evening to both of you. thanks for joining. the secret court battle we see video of his lawyers leaving court, they're trying to block a federal grand jury from getting information about trump's former close aides to get information about the election. how do you see this turning out? what's going on here? >> well, i think a couchal things are going on. one, it seems to always be in mr. trump's interest to try and delay things. the reporting -- your reporting suggests he waited until the very last minute to file this motion, and i think his hope is let's draw it out. the other thing going on is i think this is going to be another example like the special master and the 11th circuit where he's going to be told to put up or shut up. for months and longer he has made vague statements about the possibility of executive privilege, the possibility of attorney-client privilege, and i think the judge in this case is going to say, okay, if you think t

let's bring in former nixon white house counsel, john, dean and cnn senior legal analyst mr.th you. you reaction to this new new york times reporting that trump knew there could be legal problems if he didn't return government documents but refused to anyway? well don you've been talking over the past several weeks and the courts are about proving knowledge and intent. if i described on the show, one of the most difficult task for prosecutors as you have to establish, beyond a reasonable doubt. not just that the documents were there. that is fairly easy to establish, but that donald trump knew they were there and that he had a criminal intent. well if you have a reliable lawyer like eric kershaw and saying i told him to his face that he had these documents you shouldn't have them. they could get to in trouble. well a, that shows donald trump you had the documents. be, it shows that he knew holding on to them was wrong, in some respects. so that could be a really crucial piece of evidence, don. >> according to this report after his conversation with -- trump returned 15 block

next, former nixon white house counsel john dean and seen and senior legal analysis, elie honig.s start with you. your reaction to this new york times reporting that trump knew there could be legal troubles if he didn't return legal documents but refused to anyway. what do you think? >> don, you and i have been talking a lot the last several weeks about the importance of proving knowledge and intent. as i described on the show, one of the most difficult tasks for prosecutors if you have to establish beyond arenas nimble doubt not just the duck arguments for their. that's easy to establish. but donald trump knew they were there, and that he had a criminal intent. well, if you have a reliable bowl person, a lawyer like eric herschmann saying, i told him to his face you have these documents, these could get in trouble. that shows donald trump knew he had the documents and it shows he knew holding on to that was wrong and some respect. that could be a really crucial piece of evidence, plan. >> john, according to this report after his conversation with eric herschmann, trump returned

i want to bring in john dean. the former general counsel. good evening to both of you. thanks for joining. bob, the secret court battle donald trump's lawyers are fighting right now, we see this video of his lawyers leaving court. they're trying to block a federal grand jury from getting information from close trump aides about his efforts to overturn the election. it's a fight over privilege. how do you see this turning out? is going on here? >> a could things are going on. one, it seealways seems to be i trump's favor. he waited until the last minute to file this motion and i think his hope is let's draw it out. the other thing going on is i think this is going to be another example like the special master like the 11th circuit where he's told to put up or shut up. for months and longer he's made vague statements about the possibility of executive privilege, the possibility of attorney client privilege and i think the judge in this case is going to say okay, if you think there is executive privilege here, what is it with respect to and why is it executive privilege. t

diane sawyer who worked for a while before going to network television in the nixon white house john deanwas nixon's council in the early days of the watergate scandal pat buchanan, who is a nixon aid who later ran for president three times? sticking and failing to win the republican nomination for presidency alexander hague who was nixon's chief of staff later in the watergate period ron ziegler, he was the press secretary. the one who mentioned who referred to watergate famously as a third rate burglary. these were all among the candidates these and many more were identified as likely sources. likely to have been deep throat. in fact, there were college courses. one of them at the university of illinois that spent semesters. digging through the tips and clues and hints and all the president's been to try to figure out. who the most likely source was? and one of these efforts identified pat buchanan an arch conservative republican who seemed on his face to be quite unlikely to have been deep throat. but since he was a native of washington or had lived in washington for many many years he

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representative susan wild, dean phils ins, mondaire jones. michael guess, johnutherford, kelly armstrong. my late colleague, jackie walorski, and former representatives kenny mar chant, susan brooks and charlie dent. thank you to david cicilline and jennifer falun gong and all the members i've been privileged to travel the world with, representing the united states. and thank you to the u.s. service members and employees of the state department, usaid, other embassy employees who serve our nation each in their own way and each magnificently. i've seen a lot of change in congress over the last dozen years. over seven years and nearly four congresses have passed since john dingell last stood on this floor. aged wonder if he would be surprised by the bitter divides that have expanded exponentially since that time. but even now his words are worth repeating. they're as true now as they were then and will continue to be for every member who comes after me. you're not important, it's what you can do for the people who sent you here. that's important. and i think we ca

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