i mean, tesla's made more cars than preston tucker and john delorean combined. last year they made about 80,000 cars? that's way more than tucker and delorean put together. and elon musk has grand am bugses to ramp up. -- ambitions to ramp up. again, 200,000's just a sliver is, a fingernail sliver compared to the production of the big three, but how can we explain the fact that elon musk, in contrast to these other mavericks, is actually getting a foothold or maybe a toehold in the automaking industry? if -- i asked you guys to think about this question. what are some of your suppositions about why elon musk seems to be doing okay so far with the promise of doing better in the future? do you have any ideas about this? what is he doing differently or what's different about his background? alexis? >> well, he's a businessman and had a couple of other really good business deals before tesla and then he's an inventer, he also puts a lot of money towards tesla that he already had from previous business, and he wants to be involved with things besides cars as well. >>