so sort of all the welcome back. joining me now to discuss is doctor and john dibiase of the washington pain center. thank you so much for being here with us. thanks so much for having me. yes, so now let's get into it. it's about finding the right balance as we spoke about earlier, between promoting self acceptance and recognizing the health risk associated with obesity. so from your stands, what is the right approach and can we really have it all? yes, of course we can have it all. we 1st have to keep people accountable. i think we always thinking about this with you for segment in terms of role models, we always have role models, whether it's role models in terms of intellect in education, maybe moral background or maybe physicality. and you said i wouldn't be like that person. we have never said now i'm just except the way that i am, i'm just to see student not going to work hard. it just the way i am and i'll just let it be. we never do that as human beings, but the point is, is that we need to embrace and help people out where we can medically cuz you're exactly right. i mean, thi