thought it was someone else, his alias. -- walkingching toward john dillinger's apartment. all you know is that there is something suspicious in apartment 303. dillinger is in bed with his girlfriend, who opens the door, peace out, and you, the fbi, say, ma'am, we are here to speak to carl. the dear woman forgets her own alias. couldys carl, my husband the fbi are not fools. they said, ma'am, we are staying here. you go and get carl. she runs an says, john, the jig is up here it john dillinger, cool as a cucumber, puts on his pants, gets his machine gun, comes to the store, opens it, leans out, and starts firing machine gun bullets out of the store. the police and the fbi start firing back at him. the door is chewed up by bullets. to give you a sense, john dillinger, not a master criminal, not a single bullet from his gun hits any of the fbi agents in the actual quarter you are in right now. one bullet from the fbi and the police is gone hits john dillinger in the fight. incredibly, john dillinger has escaped from the fbi shoe out -- chewed out. he comes out the store. dilli

john dillinger never came to get his mail but the big tipoff was john dillinger's girlfriend, a beautifuln woman from wisconsin would come out on his grass and hang up john mallinger's laundry dressed in a halter top and short shorts. i talked to men in their 80s who remember 70 years ago when dylan sure was here and this girl was so beautiful face still remember john dillinger's girlfriend so the fbi sent a crew here to knock on john dillinger's door but they didn't know. they thought it was carl holman which was john dillinger's alias when he lived above at 303. >> you are walking toward john dillinger's apartment, apartment 303. all you know is there is something suspicious in apartment 303. this is john dillinger's dog here and john dillinger is in bed with his girlfriend, she opens the door, peeks out and you, the fbi, go i am here to talk to carl holman. the deer woman forgets her own alias'. egos carl, oh oh, my husband and the fbi are not fooled, we are saying right here, you go and get carl. the jig is up, it is the fbi. john dillinger, cool as a cucumber says get your clothes on

of these gangsters but this was the epicenter of 1930's crime in the era of john dillinger.he federal bureau of investing haitian under j edgar hoover had -- the federal bureau of investigation under j edgar hoover had their center here. sent tongsters were other prisons across america. it's where it began and ended. we are standing here at historic looking over the junction of the minnesota mississippi rivers. st. paul is located up the mississippi river from port snelling and the fort was here before the city was but the fort is intimately connected in the creation of st. paul. in the 1830's, there were groups of settlers that were living on the military's property. finally, the army had had enough of competing with them for resources and they felt they should be removed officially from the military property. the settlers moved across the river to the other side and they formed what became the nucleus of the city of st. paul. when you think about the story and the history of this region, you think beyond the walls of fort snelling. that's what we try to do here is push peo

john dillinger, baby faced alivin creepy carpus.here are no statues of these gangsters, but this was the epicenter of 1930's crime in the area of john dillinger. the fbi had this building with their headquarters. this is also the building were bootleggers and bank robbers were tried and sent to alcatraz, leavenworth prison, and other prisons across america. it is where it began and where it ended. we're standing here at historic fort snelling and we are looking over the junction of the minnesota and mississippi rivers -- missouri rivers. the fortis connected in the creation of st. paul. in the 1830's, their groups of settlers that were moving -- living on the property. the army had enough of competing them from -- the settlers moved to the other side and formed the nucleus of the city of st. paul. when you think about the history, when you think the on the walls of fort snelling, and that is what we try to do, push people to think about what it means when all of these people came together, what perspectives to they have on this hist

the fbi did not know that this was john dillinger, but they began to get hands that a strange man washis apartment building. the shades were always drawn to the bottom. he never came out to get his mail. the big tipoff was his girlfriend, a beautiful indian woman from wisconsin for would come out on this crass and hang up his laundry dressed in a halter top and short shorts. i have talked to men in their eighties who remember 70 years ago this when he was here. they said, oh, my god images grow was so beautiful. so the fbi sent a crew here to knock on his door. they did not know. they thought it was carol hellman, which was his alias. you're walking toward his apartment. it is apartment 303. all you know is that there is something suspicious in apartment 303. this is is door right here. he is in bed with his girlfriend she opens the door, peeks out here to speak to carl holman. she forgets her own alias carl, oh, my husband. the fbi say, ma'am, we are stay right here. you go and get karl. he runs to the bedroom. the jig is up to be as the fbi pretty close to cucumbers is get your clot

john dillinger, baby faced here., all were people don't know that. there are no statues of these gangsters, but this was the epicenter of 1930's crime in the era of john dillinger. the fbi, the federal bureau of investigation, j edgar hoover, had this building as their headquarters. this is a building where all the bootleggers and bank robbers were tried and sent to alcatraz, leavenworth prison, and other prisons across america. it is where it began and where it ended. >> we are standing here at fort snell, looking over the junction of the minnesota and mississippi rivers. st. paul is located up the mississippi river, and the fort was here before the city was. the fort is intimately connected in the creation of st. paul. in the 1830's, there were settlers living on the military property. finally, the army had had enough of competing them -- with them for resources and felt they should be removed from military property. the settlers moved across the river to the other side and formed what they -- formed what became the nucleus of the city of st. paul.

people of saint hall would see the most notorious gangsters bankerica, wanted man like robber john dillingerwalking along the street. it was like the celebrity. but you would not fear for your life in saint paul in the 1930's, because you knew the crooks were on their best behavior. it is march 1934, and the most wanted man in america, public

there's no statues of these gangsters, but this was the epicenter of 1930s crime in the era of john dillinger. the fbi, the federal bureau of investigation with j. edgar hoover had this building as their headquarters. this is also the building where all of those bootleggers and bank robbers were tried and sent to alcatraz and other prisons across america. it's where it began and where it ended. we're standing here at historic ft. snelling and we're looking over the junction of the minnesota and the mississippi rivers. st. paul is located up the mississippi river from ft. snelling. and the ft. was here before the city was. but the fort is intimately connected in the creation of st. paul. in the 1830s, there were groups of settlers that were living on the military's property. finally the army had had enough of competing with them for resources, and they felt that they should be removed officially from the military property. the setlers then moved across the river to the other side and they formed what became the nucleus of the city of st. paul. when you think about the story and the history of

john dillinger, baby faced nelson, health and creepy carpus they were all here. time. i have worked with a lot of great chairpersons of the democratic hardy. know, -- democratic party. i have campaigned for thousands of candidates over the years. i have never seen anyone work as hard or as tirelessly as debbie has. if we want anyone to do the 60 the bestr 160 seconds person is debbie. it is great to work with her, the problem is, and being close to her she does not even ask. she tells me what to do. she is like my little sister. you know i do whatever she tells me. i can't begin without talking about just four and a second, scented -- cynthia and cara. i can't see the back of the room. it looks like a lot of people are here. it, it was ated lot smaller room. and the tables were a lot smaller. and you set out to make sure that that table got bigger, and made sure that at that table there as many people as there were men. tried to make sure that things change. you see a lot of old friends out there, and new friends. and we have been through awful lot together. and wea lo

statues of them but this was the epicenter of 1930's in the era of john dillinger. federal bureau of investigation with j. edgar hoover had this building as their headquarters. also the building where all of those bat leggers and bank robbers were tried and sent to alcatraz, leavenworth listen and other prisons. is where it began and where it ended. > we are standing at the historic fort snelling looking over the junction of the innesota and mississippi rivers. st. paul is up the mississippi river from fort snelling and the was here before the city was. it is connected in the creation st. paul. 181830's there much groups and they were competing for resources and felt they should be removed from the property. they were moved to the other the and they found what was nucleus of st. paul. when you think of the story and region you think beyond the walls of fort snelling. do is push we try people to think more about what oes it mean when all of these ch cultures came together. >> watch all of our events from t. paul today noon eastern on c-span 2's book tv and sunday aft

but this was the epicenter of 1930s crime in the era of john dillinger.he fbi, the federal bureau of investigation, with j. egg garr hoover, had this as their headquarters. this is also the building where all of those bootleggers and bank robbers were tried and sent to alcatraz, leavenworth prison, and other prisons across america. it's where it began, and where it ended. we're standing here at historic fort snelling and looking over the junction of the minnesota and mississippi rivers. st. paul is located up the mississippi river from fort snelling and the fort was here before the city was. but the fort is intimately connected in the creation of st. pa paul. in the 1830s, there were groups of settlers that were living on the military's property. finally the army had had enough of competing with them for resources, and they felt that they should be removed officially from the military property. the settlers then moved across the river to the other side, and they formed what became the nucleus of the city of st. paul. when you think about the story and the

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of thes no statues gangsters but this was the epicenter of 1930's crime in the era of john dillinger.this is also the building where the wat boot legers and bank ros and sent to prisons across america. it is where it began and where it ended. >> we are standing here at historic fort snelling and looking over the junction of the minnesota and mississippi rivers. st. paul is located up the river happen the fort was here before was.ity it is intermountainly connected in the creation of st. paul. the 1830's there were groups living ons that were the military property. finally the army had enough of them for with resources and they felt this they should be removed officially. move across the river to the other side and farmed nucleus of the city of st. paul. you think beyond the walls and that is what we try to do think moreh poem to about what does it mean when all cultures came together? what perspectives on the historic events? >>> a round of applause at the errands of the evening. in between, they will dial silence. each candidate has one minute to make an opening statement. we flipped

john dillinger did time here in 1929.later, masterminded the escape of 11 members of his gang. it's been through changes over the years, but it's still a prison with old school bars and old school convicts who don't want to be mistaken for inmates. >> convicts treat you the way you treat them. treat them with respect, they treat you with respect. inmates are the guys who talk bad about you, yell at you, swear at you. no matter how you treat them. treat them with respect and you don't get anything like that in return. isp is slowly going from convict to inmate, because we're getting a lot of younger kids in here who are not used to prison life. >> a convict's the one who minds his own business. he don't get off in other people's business. what he sees he keeps to himself. it's none of his business. inmates are one that would tell in a minute. they're rats. i'm a straight convict. i'm not an inmate. >> robert spears was your typical convict. he had done a lot of time. he had lived very distinctly by the convict code and he

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virtually every gangster lived in a three-block radius of where we're standing, john dillinger, baby face nelson, all were here. people don't know that. there's no statues of these gangsters. this was the epicenter of 1930s era crime. j. edgar hoover had this building as their headquarters. it's also the building where those bootlegers were tried, sent to alcatraz and other prisons across america. it's where it began and where it ended. we're standing here at this historic fort, looking over the junction of the mississippi river. st. paul is located up the river from ft. snelling. it's intimately constructed. settlers living on the military's property. finally the army had had enough of competing with them for resources and felt they should be removed officially from the military property. settlers then moved across the river to the other side and farmed what became the nucleus of the city of st. paul. when you think about the story, the history of this region, you think beyond the walls of ft. snelling. and that's what we try to do here at ft. snelling, push people to think more abo

there is no statute of these gangsters, but this was the epicenter of 1930's crime in the era of john dillinger. the fbi, with j edgar hoover, had this building as their headquarters. this is where they were tried and sent to alcatraz, leavenworth prison, other prisons across america. it's where it began and where it ended. >> we are standing here, looking over the junction of the minnesota and mississippi rivers. st. paul is up the mississippi river. before it was here before the city was. it is intimately connected in the creation of st. paul. in the 1830's, there were groups of settlers living on the military's property. competing with them for resources and felt they should be removed. the settlers then moved across st. paur and found l. when you think about the history of this region and beyond the is what we try to do here, push people to inc. more -- to think more will about what it means when all these places came together. what perspective they have on historic events. >> watch all of our event saturday at noon eastern, in sunday afternoon at 2:00 on c-span three. john kerryy of state

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i was recently in indiana and they gave me a local sheriff gave me a bullet fired from john dillinger'stommy submachine gun. as i stared at the bullet it occurred to me that a great vector change of the twist center actually gave birth to the modern fbi. because in the 1920s into the 1930s the confluence of asphalt and the automobile was a factor change that the world had never seen before. suddenly criminals that commit crimes across unheard of distances two states, three states in the same day moving at speeds that were unimaginable 40 miles an hour downhill, 50 miles an hour. county line suddenly were not relevant. state lines were not relevant. and a national force was needed to respond to that vector change, and that was the first, i'm the seventh, the first director, j. edgar hoover and modern fbi was born to respond to that new vector, that new way. so as i stood there staring at the eligible it occurred to me that dillinger could not do 1000 robberies in all 50 states in the same day in his pajamas from halfway around the world. that's what today's vector change represents. the

i was recently in indiana, and they gave me, a local sheriff gave me a bullet fired from john dillinger'ssubmachinegun. as i stared at the dillinger bullet it occurred to me that a great vector change of the 20 center ice to give to the modern fbi. it has in the 1920s into the 1930s the confluence of asphalt and the automobile was a vector change that the world had never seen before. suddenly criminals who would commit crimes across unheard of at distances, two states, three states in the same day, moving at speeds that were unimaginable, 40 miles an hour, downhill 50 miles an hour. county line suddenly were not relevant. state lines were not relevant. and a national force was needed to respond to the effect of change, and there was the first, on the seventh, it was the first director of the fbi, j. edgar hoover, and modern fbi was born to respond to the new vector, that new way. so as i stood there staring at the dillinger bullet it occurred to me that dillinger could not do 1000 robberies in all 50 states in the same day in his pajamas from halfway around the world. that's what today's