but john dingell had to have protection after his vote in the '90s.d people hug me and thank me for being willing to take a stand. and they're nra members. >> you get people hugging you, thanking you. >> and i am going to get death threats. i do. >> that exposes this incredible divide on this issue. getting a question about impeachment. you have expressed reservation on all this. i want to listen to what you told my colleague, chuck todd. >> there's a theme about how russia is trying to divide this country. i don't want to play into russia's hands and divide this country more with a partisan impeachment. so, i am totally schizophrenic right now about all of the different things that are in there. i think we have to do this in a bipartisan way. >> speaker nancy pelosi says one of her reasons is because the president will be common rate x the senate. that makes it more difficult to prosecute donald trump after he leaves office. should either your russia argument or her postpresidency argument take precedence over what some say are constitutional require

john dingell was a favorite of mine. we lost john this year. he was a wonderful, wonderful chairman. i got on energy and commerce, and asked for the merchant marines and -- merchant marine and fisheries committee, and that i wanted to get on ag, coming from an agricultural district. if you remember, in 1994 there was a switch in leadership, republicans took over, and with the new revolution, pat took over the house ag committee. ed everybody knows when you switch, you lose -- and everybody knows that when you switch, you lose a few numbers on the side that didn't win. i went to pat and i said, i want to stay on the ag committee and he said you can't because you were the last person in so you are the first person up. he was really sweet about it, but he said no. i showed up at a few hearings and i sat down with all of the people that came to the hearings, and pat would look at me like, what is she doing out there? [laughter] i came to three or four and finally he said, ok, just come up here and sit, you are not on the committee but you can come

that's why she and people like debbie dingell, jerry nadler are trying to slow-walk this before it's kind of a rush to judgment. >> johne that democrats are moving towards impeaching the president, despite strong evidence it could hurt them in 2020. here's judiciary chairman jerry nadler. >> you can't impeach the president until the people support it. and you also, it's a political act and you also don't want to divide the country so that half the country is bitter for 30 years, if there is justification, you have to develop the awareness in the country and, and the agreement basically before you can take the real step of an impeachment. >> john what do you think about the argument that an impeachment inquiry could help generate public support for impeachment? >> i think there's a strong case to be made for that. there's a point that democrats if they want to gain support for impeachment, need to lay out the case for it and present the evidence to the american people. i think we've seen a lot of polling and other evidence that shows that americans aren't really aware of mueller's findings, only 3% of americans have rea